Debra

You two are talking about 2 different grandmas. His own that took care of him when he was young and the one who is backing him now, the one that invested in him whose husband came and went back?

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2017/08/alleged-murderer-speaks-up-about-the-death-of-song-seon-mis-husband

I read that a few days ago and am so enraged. As far as I know, she is still working there.

Yes, she turns her grandson in and she does commit suicide. Agnes is, I think, the English name for the young girl who committed suicide, and I agree that the poem was her form of a suicide note.

But the main character in Secret Sunshine did not end up successful in her suicide attempt and sought help and sex is well, sort of a part of life and movies in general. I've seen three movies by this filmmaker and they were in no way generic, but certainly focus on what is both seen and unseen, on showing the dark in the midst of the light and the light in the midst of darkness.

https://gomovies.pet/film/a-man-and-a-woman-14870/watching.html?ep=804456

I wish someone would sub this! I really want to see it and love Kwon Hae Hyo!

Neomu chamanheyo...

No Korean here but you are very welcome. :-). First time I have been bowed to.... formally.

Ok, so here's the story-I just checked. In Ep. 44, that is when the fiance comes to dinner. In Ep. 45 , the guys go out for a drink. So I would assume that it is Ep. 43 that the fiance is first mentioned but I didn't go that far back to be sure. So I was wrong about Episode 46. Night!

Yeah, you should catch up a bit! There is no "romance." It wasn't like that. I don't think it was as early as Ep. 42 or 44 (unless it was just discussed slightly). The dinner was later. Prob. 46. Basically it was just announced that she was engaged to the son or friend of the person she was cleaning house for. And it went on from there, but this was no huge romance.

They didn't show her meeting him-I don't recall what episode but the first time we saw him was when he came over to her house for dinner and it was quite awkward. I think it was probably Ep. 46? But I don't have them in front of me. Sorry.

Is most of this filmed in South Korea? I saw that some of it was filmed in Guam (nice timing!). Hoping, if I watch, that most is in SK.

Do you know of a site that has the English subbed version of all 167 epsiodes?

That site no longer exists- if anyone knows of a place to watch the entire drama subbed, or at least the last 45 episodes subbed (I found a site that has 122 episodes), please let me know. Thank you.

Do you know anywhere I can watch all of this subbed? I did find a site that has 122 46 minute episodes, but my understanding is that there are 167 episodes. So unless the episodes were shorter originally, I would be missing the last 45 episodes! So frustrating! Thanks.

I did see it and yes, YATM would be on the list! I can't find any site that has Ep. 44 subbed. Frustrating. SO late.

I'm sure it is allowed. It's probably just similar to an "incest taboo," but not really- they are not related. I have no idea IRL how it would be perceived!

I agree with all of this-- there are dramas that are heavily anticipated that I also have looked forward to watching (especially when a favorite actor is in it) and it's pure drudgery for me. Or the plot gets so complicated and convoluted (some detective or political dramas) that I can't follow it. So I don't watch it or I drop it. Some I know I might be in the mood for another time. I haven't watched to many makjangs but they are fun, fun! I remember when i watched my first Korean drama (this might sound really odd), but I hadn't cried for a long time prior to that, and the drama allowed me to feel a LOT of emotion and it was so cathartic to cry or to laugh like that. I still appreciate that about them sometimes so much.

I am looking for this with English subs if anyone can help.