I still see FX and can only recall the damage he caused, damage so severe it drove YSL to thoughts of self-harm. So this so-called redemption arc doesnât soften him for me at all. I still despise that motherf***** to my core (new hairstyle is cute though). And yes, we already know FX is deeply messed up, shaped by a brutal childhood; that context explains him, but it doesnât absolve him. That said, him finally giving YSL space is, by his standards, a significant step forward.
What truly interests me isnât FXâs redemption, though, itâs YSL.
I can sense this story is heading toward reconciliation, and the real question isnât whether we approve of YSL forgiving FX, but whether we can understand it. What could make a person in their right mind forgive after enduring that level of betrayal and harm?
For me, the answer is desire.
Desire can coexist with betrayal. One of the most uncomfortable truths about human relationships is that love and harm are not mutually exclusive. YSL can be furious, wounded, and profoundly mistrustful AND still crave FX. Sexual chemistry doesnât evaporate just because morality was violated. The body doesnât follow ethics; it remembers intensity, closeness, feeling alive.
The story seems deliberately written to show that forgiveness doesnât emerge because the pain disappears, but because the fear of loss outweighs the fear of being hurt again. YSL isnât forgiving because FX suddenly deserves it, heâs forgiving because letting go feels like another kind of death.
That said, forgiveness born from loneliness, sexual longing, or attachment is fragile. Without consistent accountability, visible behavioral change, and genuine respect for boundaries, reconciliation risks becoming self-betrayal. And while FX is only just beginning to show these things BARELY, it matters that the shift exists at all.
The introduction of the child is where everything quietly clicks into place. That child represents both of their stolen childhoods, their unmet needs, their trauma. He becomes a living chance to break the cycle, to give someone else the safety, care, and honesty they were denied. Healing doesnât come from forgetting the past, but from refusing to repeat it, and that dynamic gives YSL a reason to believe change might be possible.
So if YSL chooses to forgive in the end, I wonât celebrate FX, but Iâll understand YSL.
Because forgiveness isnât always about justice. Sometimes itâs about choosing the risk of love over the certainty of emptiness.
YSL broke my heart this episode. Can we vote for the genre to be changed to "Horror" instead of "Romance" ? All they've been doing is terrorise the shit out of that poor man non-stop.
Honestly there is no redemption for Fan Xiao. I mean in the newest episode we literally got compilation of "after…
Agree! the latest glimmer of hope I had for them withered away after this episode. Honestly, at this point, if I get a finale with only a happy YSL who got a new will to live, I'll be quite satisfied. I'll consider this a horror series about survival where the ML made it out alive.
Mirror mirror on the wall, which flag is reddest of them all ? Ah I see y'all weren't joking when y'all said FX will only get worse. He breaks his own record each time it's a talent atp.
Lust does not destroy judgment. It tempts judgment into becoming an accomplice.
YSLâs line, âIf youâre lying to me, please donât slip up,â was too damn beautiful. It perfectly fits his character. He acknowledged the possibility of deception, yet he chose not to challenge it, or rather, he did not dare to dig further.
Also, terrific acting from both sides. It was refreshing and such a delight to watch.
My clown ass actually started sympathizing with FX for a sec there (little did I know). That spawn of satan is so messed up yet the cinematography was so beautiful this episode, it made him look charming. The theme of bodhisattva & Satan love is just so poetic idk.
I've always wondered about the need for these kind of plots. Since they exist often, there must be an audience…
No you're right, I started it not knowing what to expect. Even with the tags I just didn't know it would go as far as to SA. But thanks to your comment and other people's I'm watching this with a different mindset. Curious about the retribution awaiting FX.
i got sad when shulang woke up confused and then he got scare knowing what happened to him. i noticed chinese…
I've always wondered about the need for these kind of plots. Since they exist often, there must be an audience (a big one) that consumes it and keeps asking for it, sadly. I myself am consuming it right now, but I guess the least we can do is draw the line and not thirst over it in any way . FX already had me raising an eyebrow with what he was doing with Zhen but now this ?? It was going well until it wasn't. Tbh, my strategy is to pretend like it didn't happen so I can continue watching this series in peace because i liked it for the most part.
Not the textbook definition of "sick pervert" calling other people that XD. Chinese BLs are either heavily censored or heavily fucked up, no in between. Well, see yall tomorrow ig.
what kind of magic, sorcery, witchcraft, wizardry, enchantment, spellcraft did they put on this simple show that makes it so good ? I'm counting the seconds till tomorrow's episode đ
"They should just communicate", the thing is, Min Jun was an introverted guy battling self-confidence issues. He even admitted that he struggles with communication, which he thinks made him come across as uninterestingâsomething that only fed into his insecurities. It was his first time in a relationship, and it happened to be with someone who was popular, outgoing, and naturally bubbly. The contrast was intimidating, and his lack of experience, combined with his tendency to overthink and his constant need for reassurance, created a perfect storm. He ended up jumping to conclusions, misreading situations, and essentially self-sabotaging. Frustrating but painfully human and relatable to many.
What I find really refreshing, though, is how Min Junâs character evolved over time. He became bolder, more open, and visibly more secure in himself. Perhaps what he needed the most to have a healthy relationship. We'll see how it goes in the upcoming episodes.
Jin Hwan on the other hand...sorry sir i wasn't familiar with your game at first.
Series like this show that in real life, two people in love donât always meet in the middle or equally accommodate each other. I understand why some people label it as toxic, but to me, itâs only toxic if it stays that way. This isnât about the âhappily ever afterâ â itâs about the messy work that leads to it. Weâre here to witness the characters face their flaws, try to correct them, and gradually understand each other better. Thereâs a fine line between healthy and toxic, and the writers intentionally walk that line, making us question whether we really want to root for this love or not.
Iâm still enjoying the journey, aside from the time jump. 12 years felt excessive; five years would have been enough time to show some personal growth without losing realism. That said, I respect the complexity the series has created so far, with a cinematic quality that even most mainstream dramas donât achieve.
12 years was a bit ruthless not gonna lie. But the people getting too worked up and impatient clearly haven't seen HDS work before. Her style is basically torturing the viewer's feelings before giving the sweet relief at the end.
Mother has mothered once again with this beautiful piece of art. Everything she touches turns to gold. The cast is phenomenal and so lovable. The last scene of ep2 was so quiet, yet it screamed with emotions. A true blessing to the eyes et well worth the wait!
Finally someone who has put everything I wanted to say about Thai BLs in general (and this show) into words. It's…
Exactly! They've stepped up their game in everything except the thing that actually matters the most : good writing. I like giving credit where it's due, and i'm giving it to them for the overall cinematography : good camera angles, good lighting, good music etc, but they threw it all into the dirt with an incoherent story and a weak script. Watching the first episode felt like sitting in a fancy restaurant, being served a dessert that looked amazing but tasted awful. If youâve got the budget for all that flair, why not hire a chef (scriptwriter) who actually knows how to cook?
When will they realize that an intimate scene isnât what matters? Itâs what leads up to that scene. Itâs the journey that makes those moments truly special, the slow build of emotions, character development, and chemistry. Without that, those scenes feel hollow and cheap. No amount of eye candy can save a scene when thereâs no real substance behind it.
Itâs frustrating because they have everything they need to make something great, but they just won't. My new motto with thai Bls is "disappointed but not surprised".
Translation : dad trust, I can fix himđ„șđđ
What truly interests me isnât FXâs redemption, though, itâs YSL.
I can sense this story is heading toward reconciliation, and the real question isnât whether we approve of YSL forgiving FX, but whether we can understand it. What could make a person in their right mind forgive after enduring that level of betrayal and harm?
For me, the answer is desire.
Desire can coexist with betrayal. One of the most uncomfortable truths about human relationships is that love and harm are not mutually exclusive. YSL can be furious, wounded, and profoundly mistrustful AND still crave FX. Sexual chemistry doesnât evaporate just because morality was violated. The body doesnât follow ethics; it remembers intensity, closeness, feeling alive.
The story seems deliberately written to show that forgiveness doesnât emerge because the pain disappears, but because the fear of loss outweighs the fear of being hurt again. YSL isnât forgiving because FX suddenly deserves it, heâs forgiving because letting go feels like another kind of death.
That said, forgiveness born from loneliness, sexual longing, or attachment is fragile. Without consistent accountability, visible behavioral change, and genuine respect for boundaries, reconciliation risks becoming self-betrayal. And while FX is only just beginning to show these things BARELY, it matters that the shift exists at all.
The introduction of the child is where everything quietly clicks into place. That child represents both of their stolen childhoods, their unmet needs, their trauma. He becomes a living chance to break the cycle, to give someone else the safety, care, and honesty they were denied. Healing doesnât come from forgetting the past, but from refusing to repeat it, and that dynamic gives YSL a reason to believe change might be possible.
So if YSL chooses to forgive in the end, I wonât celebrate FX, but Iâll understand YSL.
Because forgiveness isnât always about justice. Sometimes itâs about choosing the risk of love over the certainty of emptiness.
Ah I see y'all weren't joking when y'all said FX will only get worse. He breaks his own record each time it's a talent atp.
YSLâs line, âIf youâre lying to me, please donât slip up,â was too damn beautiful. It perfectly fits his character. He acknowledged the possibility of deception, yet he chose not to challenge it, or rather, he did not dare to dig further.
Also, terrific acting from both sides. It was refreshing and such a delight to watch.
Tbh, my strategy is to pretend like it didn't happen so I can continue watching this series in peace because i liked it for the most part.
What I find really refreshing, though, is how Min Junâs character evolved over time. He became bolder, more open, and visibly more secure in himself. Perhaps what he needed the most to have a healthy relationship. We'll see how it goes in the upcoming episodes.
Jin Hwan on the other hand...sorry sir i wasn't familiar with your game at first.
Iâm still enjoying the journey, aside from the time jump. 12 years felt excessive; five years would have been enough time to show some personal growth without losing realism. That said, I respect the complexity the series has created so far, with a cinematic quality that even most mainstream dramas donât achieve.
When will they realize that an intimate scene isnât what matters? Itâs what leads up to that scene. Itâs the journey that makes those moments truly special, the slow build of emotions, character development, and chemistry. Without that, those scenes feel hollow and cheap. No amount of eye candy can save a scene when thereâs no real substance behind it.
Itâs frustrating because they have everything they need to make something great, but they just won't. My new motto with thai Bls is "disappointed but not surprised".