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I just bingewatched this drama and it was a breathe of fresh air . No toxic, cringey third parties . For once the fl and ml leads stayed true to their hearts. Even the way the parents handled the revelation about the parentage of the fl was handled so well. I relate to that situation. I was adopted at an early age by my mother’s husband. He was the only father I knew until truth was revealed to me . He was the one who took me to the library every Saturday. He was the one that picked me up from college whenever I called. He was the one that walked me down the aisle on my wedding day. He was the one who babysat my first child when I returned to work. He was my dad. I did meet my biological father. I also met his wife and other children. My mother even accompanied me to their home. We remained cordial until his death. On another note the extra bonus in this series was the attention to the visual details and fashion. As a bonafide fashionista I enjoyed the various fashion designs. Even the earrings were a work of art. Even the menswear were so avant garde. For me this series was a solid 8/10.

I am watching ep 6 for the second time and I am trying to imagine what it was like to be on the set while filming Gemini and Fourth. What an awesome experience to be a witness to such beautiful and raw talent. I dont know of any bl series that has touched me like this one. Maybe it is because of my own very strict and conservative upbringing. Despite everything organized religion still remains fixed in its opposition to same sex relationships and the transgender community. But I believe that there are those like myself who are ever learning and ever evolving. When I look at the last scene when the Father embraces both Barth and Tanrak it is like God saying come to me my children . Welcome home.

Yes I did mean Heated Rivalry. Thanks for correction.

Thank you. I watched the one gf but it just didnt sound believable to me . I will take your suggestion into consideration . Again, thank you.

I just finished ep 7 and the parts I disliked the most are the parts with the girlfriends. Whether it is a heterosexual or same sex relationship I hate clingy, manipulative females. I am just not built that way. Never have been. I am not jumping through hoops for no man. If my soulmate of 48 plus years was here he would tell you I dont have that kind of energy or time. I think too much of myself. I really hope the two guys end up together. The two girlfriends come off as too insecure for me. I will probably just fast forward during their appearance. I come to bls for the guys. Adding female girlfriends, romantic troupes always feel intrusive to me unless they are like the female characters in Hidden Rivalry or Semantic Error. Dont hate me. That is just how I feel personally. The women I grew up with were all badass and confident.

So very true! My cousin was involved with a guy who was grappling with his sexual identity. It must have been so excruciating. On the surface he was trying to have the life his mother wanted. He even told my cousin about his inclinations. I think he really did love her. They even married. The wedding was elegant and beautiful. But love was not enough. My cousin did not consider it cheating. She actually empathized with him. They divorced. They remained friends. I dont think he was ever able to come out to his mother. She wanted grandchildren so badly. This series is such a reflection of how trauma engulfs ones life. The actors playing the main leads are so good. They send shivers up my spine. They are so intense.

I dont know why but I am loving this….sometimes reality feels like fantasy and sometimes fantasy feels likes reality…this series takes what is real and what is not real to a whole new level!

P Jane is clearly a red flag and has issues we are sure to find out about! The logical thing would be to stay away from him but in reality there are people who will gladly buy whatever it is he is selling! I have always been interested in what motivates a person to walk into a minefield knowing the outcome. That is my sole motivation for watching this. I have known a PJane or two in my life. They could be sweet as pie one moment but would bash a sister or brother’s head in within the next moment and not flinch. At this point I don’t feel sorry for the other Jane. I just wonder how long will it be before he experiences the real PJane. I am thoroughly hooked.

I really really love the main leads. They look so good together. There is a sincerity and loveliness in their performance. It is a sweet story of love and friendship. I also liked the best friend. I hope to see the main cast in future productions. I enjoyed it. I bingewatched in one day.

Thank you. You are so right. I have personally seen both sides of the coin. My gay cousin on my father’s side of the family was accepted and embraced by his family. He came out when he was a teenager. I still remember him visiting and our going shopping. Flamboyant best describes him. I marveled at how confident and proud he was. And that was in the sixties! However, on my mother’s side things did not go well at all for that gay cousin. He was tossed out of the house by his mom. He went to stay with his father who was my cousin. He was met with verbal and physical abuse. His grandmother stood by and said nothing. His siblings shunned him. He fled to only God knows where. I tried to stay in touch via social media but suddenly nothing. Since that time his aunt and grandfather have tried to reach him with no luck. That has been over fifteen years ago. He would be in his early thirties now. I just hope he is somewhere happy and safe. Of the two scenarios I prefer the one with the gay cousin dancing and laughing and happily surrounded by loving family and friends.

By the tone of the various comments I would say that Ayou has achieved another goal. Whether intentional or not this series has elicited serious and contemplative dialogue on this series. The comments have been varied and a number of arguments have been made , some pro and some con. That is great in my opinion because it shows how this series was able to touch minds and hearts. What I also find encouraging is the comments have been largely directed at the characters and the role religion plays in the lives of many. The director chose the Catholic faith because that is what he is most familiar with. But having been raised in a ultra conservative religious
environment and having friends and relatives who were and still are steeped in the Catholic faith I can personally say the viewpoints presented mirror one another. You can love God deeply and not abandon the faith and still be true to your heart. That is the essence of this series for me personally. My sincere thanks to all of you who correctly chose to focus on the elements of the series itself . Take care.

I totally agree! It was like a stab in the heart.

Yes! 9.0! Well deserved! From start to finish it was handled with such respect and reverence. This is among the few series of any genre that has touched my heart as much as this one has. Looking at the scene with Barth and his father made me think of a friend I had as a teenager. Her father was sanctimonious and pious like Barth’s father. But he was such a hypocrite. I watched as he berated my friend and physically and verbally abused her. She attended a Catholic school. I still remember returning from my last visit to her house. I told my parents I never wanted to go back. Shortly afterwards she ran away from home. I never saw her again. And the trans character reminded me of a friend’s son. After graduating high school and starting college he began the process of transitioning to a female. Fortunately she has had the full support of her mother and immediate family. The way the journey evolved for Tarek and Barth was told with such care. This clearly was a labor of love for Fourth, Gemini and Aof. Kudos to the entire cast and production team. Anyone associated with this series must be so proud.

I am also happy to see the rating go back up to 8.9. It really deserves to be even higher.

It was so hard but I waited until all the episodes were done. Now I am binge watching and each episode just adds another layer of pure emotional joy and angst. When I think of what someone is going through right now it makes me want to cry.

They always have a way of making a role their own and taking it to the next level. That is not coincidental! That is true talent!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

All I can say is Wow! Wow! Wow! Over the past few days I have been literally stressing out over how this would end. Given the religious context would we get a sad or happy ending? Worse yet would we get an open ending. But the more I thought about Aof my fears started to subside. I even revisited his other projects and I came to this conclusion. As much as I believe Aof appreciates and respects those of us like myself who have joined the BL craze his work is not directed at fulfilling the vicarious fantasies of the mass population be they male or female. Aof is not trying to placate or persuade those like myself who represent the more conservative mindset. Nor is he interested in exploiting the sexual/sensual side associated with same sex unions. Aof ‘s target is that person, old or young, male or female who is struggling with his/her true self. His message is loud and clear…hang in there…, do not despair. You are worthy. You are not a mistake. You are not an aberration . You are not alone. You are made in God’s image. You are loved and you are loving. Thank you Aof for yet another masterpiece.

You should not play with people’s hearts like that. Because of you I had to jump right to the end. Now I can spend the rest of my holiday binge watching all six episodes.

So far so good! I am hooked!

This is my kind of drama! People rarely are 100% what we see on the surface. There is always a backstory and that is what intrigues me the most about our mls. Ju Tae clearly has issues. He seems both sadistic and
narcissistic . Is it real or an intentional facade. Chae is equally mysterious. How these two finally get on the same page is going to be a ride I am willing to take. Using the legal system is the perfect backdrop because we know with the law few cases are simply black or white. There are so many shades of grey. I am in it until the end.