DramaAjumma

I'm a bit of a Dostoevsky fan too and there are things about this show that reminds me of the Brothers Karamazov as well as Crime and Punishment. It could be one of the reasons why I'm so attached to the drama.

It's a good excuse to watch the show again.

It's in one of those scenes where Jeong-jae explains what happened that night. He was pulling his phone out of his pocket to call his mother and that's when it fell out.

Keep watching it is explained in 13, I think.

Look it's obvious you don't like the drama as is judging from your exaggerated "critique" and you haven't really been paying attention to many of the finer points because of your obvious negative bias. Not sure why you're putting yourself through so much misery. But hey, it's your time to waste.

Shin Ha-kyun is a wonderful actor and he's stellar in this.

Do you watch UK crime shows? There's not a lot of "action" in those.

Yeah, it's by far the best medical drama brought out by the mainland that I've seen. Usually I just get annoyed or bored.

I also think that the so-called second leads take up too much airtime but I suppose they need a way to fill up 40 episodes. Honestly I would prefer to see more policing or medical stuff than to watch the push and pull between those two.

Not necessarily. There are plenty of whodunits from the Golden Age of detective fiction that have very little "action".

All I'm saying is that I like how the show deals with evil. ;) It's not a simplistic view of what evil looks like. People do evil things for all kinds of reasons not related to biology.

For me, especially in light of recent episodes, the brilliance of the show lies in it multi-faceted depiction of evil. The seeds of which lie in the heart only needing the right kind of catalyst or environment to flower. It might be about making one bad choice after another or some kind of desire gone awry. Nothing is simplistic here. Thankfully no cartoony biological determinism being propagated. Let's hope that justice is finally done even if belatedly.

As always, an immersive experience.

I have no idea why ;) but these first couple of episodes remind me of Pride and Prejudice. Such a hoot!

Although the current rating is nothing to be sniffed at, I am surprised that it's not more popular. This is actually a good C drama.

With regards to Jun-won, in the early days he wasn't actively trying to be a pain in the neck and he was just stumbling around in the dark and came across as arrogant in his ignorance. But he was arrogant. But now, he is deliberately trying to push Dong-sik's buttons and challenging him so that DS gets fired up, doesn't completely fall apart and just keep plodding on until everything single deep dark secret of Manyang comes to light. Because he knows as well as the rest of us, that what happened with the finger-tips women was just the tip of the iceberg.

If anyone expects this to be a standard police procedural in which righteous, smart cops solves case after case following clues and the baddies get caught, you'd probably be disappointed. This isn't it.

The reason why some of us here think that this is a masterpiece or a work of art is because it reminds us of a really good bit of writing that plumbs the depths of the human condition. There is none righteous here. Just a lot of flawed, angry human beings stumbling around in the darkness trying to get to the bottom of things carrying their own scars, regrets and baggage. Because they're cops and know the law, it doesn't mean they act accordingly.

Plus I always appreciate what Shin Ha-kyun brings to the table.

Yeah. I have that problem too.

Which nowhere near the quality of this one.
It was disappointing especially when it was supposed to be a Luther adaptation.

I also highly recommend The Good Detective which was also brought out by JTBC last year. Really good stuff which also features a two phase storyline and two strong male leads. The banter between them is wonderful. It's one of the best shows of 2020 in my opinion. Like Beyond Evil it isn't strictly a police procedural and more about police officers as human beings. Netflix had it in their catalogue not long after its broadcast.

To be fair, Ju-won is written as a by-the-book OCD investigator. He's pain-in-the-neck rigid but seems to be softening.