DramaAjumma

I think the ratings for this one will come down eventually. 8.1 is far too high for all the negativity surrounding this one.

Heaven forbid!

Although I don't think much of the third prince, I do think he smartened up a little in Episodes 30. He's the monster that the palace maid turned empress created. She's getting some comeuppance.

I'm watching on Viki so I'm somewhat behind. But Episodes 30 and 31 were not too terrible. In fact there were flashes of a half decent story in them. From that I just think that Taohua's odd behaviour has a lot to do with the showrunners wanting Shen Zaiye to be some kind of superhusband. The wayward wife foolishly runs off and throws herself recklessly into danger. It's the selfless husband to the rescue. Who knew that I would be such a sucker for Liu Xueyi as Super Husband.
That is contrasted with the dysfunctional relationship between the third prince and Empress Lv. Supposedly.

She may care about the lives of the people around her but a good empress should also have some practical intelligence.

Apart from awkward comic relief, I really don't think she was needed in a generally serious show.

Plot armour.

Nope. Still hanging on for Liu Xueyi.

Occasionally I do see flashes of a decent palace story. The romance, however just sucks the air out of this show. And the lovesick fool third prince just beggars belief --- he's on another level of stupid.

I'm completely baffled by Taohua's rigid insistence that she and Shen Zaiye are on opposite sides despite conveniently showing up in the same places. She's sending him clues and aiding in investigations. While they might not be lovers, they could be allies with intersecting interests. What happened to the pragmatist of the earlier episodes? Where is that pessimistic fatalism coming from? Nothing "has to be" anything. She could be a double agent. She wouldn't be the first and certainly not the last. And frankly, she doesn't have to help the fourth prince either. Afterall, by her own logic, she's just a spy from another country so why she should embroil herself in the affairs of the "enemy" country?
But the part I hate the most is where she gaslights him for his own good. I would rather she seduced Shen Zaiye and used the heck out of him. At least I would have a bit more respect for her intelligence.

Don't you think men had it hard too? Huai Jin was also his father's pawn sacrificed for the family name. He had to beg his father to get permission to marry the woman he liked. He didn't even get to marry her.

It's almost as if there's a competition to see who's the biggest idiot. Whatever could the third prince be thinking keeping Taohua around? I'm not expecting Zhuge Liang levels of intelligence. Just good o'l common sense would be nice. Especially when you've harbouring such a dangerous secret and have big plans.

This show relies too heavily on people taking unnecessary risks that backfire badly to complicate things. I don't mind characters making mistakes early on. But for them to keep making the same mistakes without learning from them, they have nobody else to blame but themselves when things go pear-shaped.

Can you watch it on Viki in your region?

The writing of this show is just *face palm*
It's a dog's breakfast. So much lazy writing. Overreliance on misunderstanding to drive the conflict.

Sigh. The things I do for Liu Xueyi. I can almost forgive the show for all its writing sins when the man is onscreen.
The show wants us to think that Taohua is clever but I'm flabbergasted at her choices. In the words of Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."

Precisely. Well said.

I'm sure we did. :D I heard there's a third somewhere but it hasn't come up on my feed.

Look honestly I don't think we should have to refer to the book for our understanding of what's going. The show should stand alone. There's something terribly wrong with the script and direction if that's not clear. I don't see the point of the sex scene otherwise.

But that makes no sense either because they've already slept together.

I imagine it's because it's used to drag out the push and pull. :P

I have actually. Two versions!

Not necessarily. But now that you mentioned it, it does sound like an interesting premise. :D Sadly my fanfic days are probably over. All I'm saying is that I've seen amnesia used just to drag things out particularly in melodramas and soap operas.