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On The Princess's Gambit Jul 13, 2025
I'm watching on Viki so I'm somewhat behind. But Episodes 30 and 31 were not too terrible. In fact there were flashes of a half decent story in them. From that I just think that Taohua's odd behaviour has a lot to do with the showrunners wanting Shen Zaiye to be some kind of superhusband. The wayward wife foolishly runs off and throws herself recklessly into danger. It's the selfless husband to the rescue. Who knew that I would be such a sucker for Liu Xueyi as Super Husband.
That is contrasted with the dysfunctional relationship between the third prince and Empress Lv. Supposedly.
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Replying to MRI_2742 Jul 13, 2025
The beginning of the drama was very good, I don't know how it got messy later, SZY's character is ruined. JTH…
She may care about the lives of the people around her but a good empress should also have some practical intelligence.
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Replying to RirisBear Jul 13, 2025
I need to rant😭 Someone needs to get rid of QingYing, she's so annoying, it's like she doesn't even think before…
Apart from awkward comic relief, I really don't think she was needed in a generally serious show.
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Replying to Hyunelovebot Jul 11, 2025
Can someone please explain to me why 3rd prince, despite having the chance to kill JTH, just captured her, when…
Plot armour.
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Replying to anhsn Jul 10, 2025
Aunty, you still here? Haven't dropped it already?
Nope. Still hanging on for Liu Xueyi.
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On The Princess's Gambit Jul 10, 2025
Occasionally I do see flashes of a decent palace story. The romance, however just sucks the air out of this show. And the lovesick fool third prince just beggars belief --- he's on another level of stupid.

I'm completely baffled by Taohua's rigid insistence that she and Shen Zaiye are on opposite sides despite conveniently showing up in the same places. She's sending him clues and aiding in investigations. While they might not be lovers, they could be allies with intersecting interests. What happened to the pragmatist of the earlier episodes? Where is that pessimistic fatalism coming from? Nothing "has to be" anything. She could be a double agent. She wouldn't be the first and certainly not the last. And frankly, she doesn't have to help the fourth prince either. Afterall, by her own logic, she's just a spy from another country so why she should embroil herself in the affairs of the "enemy" country?
But the part I hate the most is where she gaslights him for his own good. I would rather she seduced Shen Zaiye and used the heck out of him. At least I would have a bit more respect for her intelligence.
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Replying to Sanoya Jul 9, 2025
why is Meng Zhen Zhen wailing as if her brother didn’t just reap what he sowed? I'm so confused lmao. their…
Don't you think men had it hard too? Huai Jin was also his father's pawn sacrificed for the family name. He had to beg his father to get permission to marry the woman he liked. He didn't even get to marry her.
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On The Princess's Gambit Jul 8, 2025
It's almost as if there's a competition to see who's the biggest idiot. Whatever could the third prince be thinking keeping Taohua around? I'm not expecting Zhuge Liang levels of intelligence. Just good o'l common sense would be nice. Especially when you've harbouring such a dangerous secret and have big plans.

This show relies too heavily on people taking unnecessary risks that backfire badly to complicate things. I don't mind characters making mistakes early on. But for them to keep making the same mistakes without learning from them, they have nobody else to blame but themselves when things go pear-shaped.
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On The Princess's Gambit Jul 7, 2025
The writing of this show is just *face palm*
It's a dog's breakfast. So much lazy writing. Overreliance on misunderstanding to drive the conflict.

Sigh. The things I do for Liu Xueyi. I can almost forgive the show for all its writing sins when the man is onscreen.
The show wants us to think that Taohua is clever but I'm flabbergasted at her choices. In the words of Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."
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Replying to Bloom C Jul 7, 2025
This is where I drop this drama. I know the FL has led a tragic life but she is acting like she didnt trick the…
Precisely. Well said.
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Replying to anhsn Jul 6, 2025
Can you give us example of amnesia trope done really well? In which Cdrama?
I'm sure we did. :D I heard there's a third somewhere but it hasn't come up on my feed.
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Replying to eliteles1 Jul 6, 2025
Title The Princess's Gambit Spoiler
I don't know why they complain about amnesia. Something so short. She already remembered everything. I don't understand…
Look honestly I don't think we should have to refer to the book for our understanding of what's going. The show should stand alone. There's something terribly wrong with the script and direction if that's not clear. I don't see the point of the sex scene otherwise.
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Replying to eliteles1 Jul 6, 2025
Title The Princess's Gambit Spoiler
I don't know why they complain about amnesia. Something so short. She already remembered everything. I don't understand…
But that makes no sense either because they've already slept together.
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Replying to eliteles1 Jul 6, 2025
I don't know why they complain about amnesia. Something so short. She already remembered everything. I don't understand…
I imagine it's because it's used to drag out the push and pull. :P
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Replying to anhsn Jul 6, 2025
Can you give us example of amnesia trope done really well? In which Cdrama?
I have actually. Two versions!
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Replying to anhsn Jul 6, 2025
Title The Princess's Gambit Spoiler
Can you give us example of amnesia trope done really well? In which Cdrama?
Not necessarily. But now that you mentioned it, it does sound like an interesting premise. :D Sadly my fanfic days are probably over. All I'm saying is that I've seen amnesia used just to drag things out particularly in melodramas and soap operas.
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Replying to DramaAjumma Jul 6, 2025
The biggest problem of this show I think is how Taohua is written right from the outset. A lot of it is probably…
In my version of this story, I would have done it from Episode 2 or 3 onwards.
But in this version I would say somewhere between 14-16 when trust between them was at its peak after a few successful collaborations.
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Replying to anhsn Jul 6, 2025
Title The Princess's Gambit Spoiler
Can you give us example of amnesia trope done really well? In which Cdrama?
I think amnesia was done decently in Are You the One featuring Zhang Wan Yi. It's part of the story's premise and built into the plot in an effective way.

There are some really good short dramas that use amnesia as its primary trope:
One features a wife that had lost her memory due to a near-drowning incident. Prior to losing it she had a terrible relationship with her husband and was very distant from their daughter. But she doesn't remember any of it. Now that she's lost her memory, everyone pretends that everything has been great. Gradually as she interacts with outsiders, she picks up on discrepancies. This is a particularly good one that I saw on YT.

Another storyline (modern) features a FL who wakes up in hospital and regresses to when she was 18 and has no memory of what came after. She finds out that the good-looking man beside her bed is her husband but soon discovers that their marriage had deteriorated to the point of separation. Unknown to her and her husband she has repressed some terrible memories of abuse. There are a few variations on this story.

There are more amusing storylines of husbands who neglected their wives but after an accident, have a personality transplant and become very clingy.
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Replying to DramaAjumma Jul 6, 2025
Title The Princess's Gambit Spoiler
18 episodes later I have mixed feelings about this show. The main reason why I'm still hanging on is Liu Xueyi,…
The biggest problem of this show I think is how Taohua is written right from the outset. A lot of it is probably about stretching what could possibly be a 25 episode (or less) drama to a 36 episode one. I don't expect grand strategy from her but her perspective on how things should get done is narrowly problematic to say the least. Up to Episode 15, I was thinking perhaps there might be some justification for her to not come clean and get the support of Shen Zaiye to help deal with her "overlords". But after Episodes 17 and 18 what I see happening is her needlessly squandering all the goodwill she had gained by collaborating with Shen Zaiye in earlier arcs. I don't expect her to fall head over heels with him this early but I expect some degree of pragmatism on her part especially because she's a stranger in a hostile land trying to survive. Asking him for help seems to me to be the obvious next move. Afterall their goals intersect quite frequently. Her recalcitrant belief that they are adversaries is more imaginary than real. To me her character isn't written as a flaw but as a way of delaying plot developments. Quite conveniently she manages to come to wrong conclusion about Shen Zaiye so that she can get away with creating one degree of misunderstanding after another.
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