I'm usually not a lot in MDL comments so I was genuinely surprised to see so many people supporting gay erasure…
The comments are disturbing. If you were scrolling over the past three weeks, you'd find a trend of dismissive, mocking, and outright hostile remarks directed at the gay community and those who expressed concern over censorship
Original source material is straight which the novel made it gay
The primary focus shouldn't be on the question of "original work/source material." The drama is an adaptation of a gay novel and not a direct adaptation of the straight movie that served as inspiration for the gay novel. Here, the gay novel is the source material
I'm re-posting my commentCommercial success shouldn't come at the cost of compromising the integrity and artistic…
I believe "inspired by" and "adapted" are distinct concepts with different implications for a work of fiction. "Bad Buddy" might've been inspired by "Romeo and Juliet," but it wasn't a direct adaptation of the story. This censored drama was intended to be an adaptation of a gay novel, which implies a closer connection to the source material. The expectation was that it would be a faithful adaptation of the gay novel, and it wasn't
Drawing inspiration from a straight story and incorporating its elements into a gay story is okay, it allows for the creation of something new that pays homage to the straight story. Censoring a gay story in an adaptation isn't okay, it undermines the integrity of the source material and deprives audiences of representation
Since you call it a "fetish" I assume you aren't part of the so called BL community. But even if it's BL, people…
People resort to pirating not out of malice or a sense of entitlement, but as a means of accessing content that's otherwise unavailable or inaccessible
It's not universally accepted that piracy is equivalent to stealing. Digital content can be duplicated without the loss of the original
"They are losing money"
It's debatable whether all individuals who pirate content would've paid for legitimate access if piracy weren't an option, making it difficult to correlate piracy with lost revenue
Your accusations of hypocrisy among BL fans rely on presumptions of their motivations and behaviors that aren't grounded in evidence. It's not possible for you to know with certainty who's pirating content and for what reasons. Your judgment of hypocrisy is unwarranted
I'm re-posting my commentCommercial success shouldn't come at the cost of compromising the integrity and artistic…
"Bad Buddy" wasn't a retelling of "Romeo and Juliet," it was a reinterpretation that brought new meaning and depth to the story by exploring issues of sexuality, identity, and acceptance. It played with and transformed an existing cultural material
This censored adaptation retells a gay story with a straight lens, bringing no new perspectives beyond superficially replacing "lovers" with "bros" or "gay" with "stalker"
I'm re-posting my commentCommercial success shouldn't come at the cost of compromising the integrity and artistic…
The creators not setting out to be malicious doesn't negate the fact that the censorship and subsequent straightwashing of gay characters is detrimental to the gay community. Removing these characters' gay identities communicates a homophobic message, that gay people's stories and identities are inconsequential, disposable, and unimportant. They are paving the road to hell with their "good" intentions
"You can't label every creative adaptation for whatever reason as an attempt at crushing rights of LGBTQ..."
I can, and I did
"... come to me with facts not your perceived perspective"
I did hit you with facts. This is another fact: your "perceived perspective" is warped, you're looking at the world through a kaleidoscope made of conspiracy theories and faulty logic
"... if gay stories can't be adapted then you must accept that straight stories can't be adapted either...else you are just being an hypocrite"
The issue here is one of power and representation
The mainstream media landscape is dominated by straight stories, while gay stories are relegated to the margins. It creates an unequal distribution of power
Turning a straight story gay is an act of reclamation and resistance, a way of 1) pushing back against the power structures that erase gay stories, 2) creating space for marginalized voices to be heard
Turning a gay story straight reinforces existing power structures and erases already scarce representation of gay stories. It's not hypocritical to advocate for one scenario and oppose the other. The two scenarios don't carry equal weight or significance
you're the type of person whou would have no problem with Straight stories or Characters turning gay, stfu hypocrite
The issue here is one of power and representation
The mainstream media landscape has historically been dominated by straight stories, while gay stories are relegated to the margins. It's created an unequal distribution of power
Turning gay stories or characters straight reinforces this power imbalance, it's an issue. Turning straight stories or characters gay disrupts the power structures and shifts the focus from the privileged group (straight identifying people) to the marginalized group (gay people), it's not an issue
It's not hypocritical to oppose one scenario and advocate for the other. The two scenarios don't carry equal weight or significance
they will be ruining this if they add the bl thing it will be great if it stays as bromance like weak hero class…
A gay romance doesn't "ruin" a potential bromance or friendship. It enriches the narrative by exploring the complexities of human relationships and challenging the limiting stereotypes that male-male relationships must be platonic
Friendship and romance can coexist and enhance one another. The male characters' friendship can be a foundation of trust, respect, and understanding that allows their love to flourish. And their romantic relationship can deepen their emotional connection or add a new dimension to their friendship
Since you call it a "fetish" I assume you aren't part of the so called BL community. But even if it's BL, people…
I wouldn't compare pirating to stealing a bag from Prada. Pirating doesn't deprive the production team of a physical product like stealing a bag would
It's highly probable that the BL fans who are "pirating" the drama are doing so as a form of protest against the adaptation's censorship. They are refusing to financially support the adaptation through legitimate channels
They aren't being hypocritical. They are using the only means available to them to express their dissatisfaction with the adaptation's censorship and disrespect of the source material
Since you call it a "fetish" I assume you aren't part of the so called BL community. But even if it's BL, people…
BL fans invest time and resources in supporting their favorite BLs
The success of many BL dramas and comics can be attributed, in part, to the dedicated support of the community members, who have proven their willingness to engage with and pay for the content they enjoy
I've noticed that the fans of this censored drama are engaging in piracy and watching on websites like dramacool or kisskh. Piracy isn't unique to BL fans
they'll say the author didn't know that they would adapt this into a friendship drama as if they know her personally…
Your comments are based on a shallow understanding of the complex interplay between artistic freedom, social responsibility, and the power dynamics of media production and consumption
Creative expression isn't divorced from the social, cultural context in which it's produced and consumed. It's a creator's job to engage with the world around them, to reflect on the social, cultural issues of their time, and to consider the potential effect of their work on society. Artistic freedom isn't a license to create without consequence or criticism
"U don't have a LEGAL right to speak against it"
Freedom of expression is the liberty to criticize the decisions made by those in positions of power or authority, and thus, all individuals are granted the legal right to speak out against censorship, irrespective of whether the censorship is carried out by the creator of a work
The process of creation doesn't grant the creator complete authority over the interpretation or discussion of their work by others. The realm of ideas and discourse transcends the boundaries of individual control, existing as a communal space of shared understanding and knowledge
I'm re-posting my commentCommercial success shouldn't come at the cost of compromising the integrity and artistic…
You're "turning a blind eye" to the historical context
Gay representation has historically been limited or erased. The altering of a straight narrative to include gay representation is an act of subversion; a step towards diversity and a new lens through which to understand the world. It challenges the heteronormative paradigm
The erasure or alteration of gay stories reinforces the dominant straight narrative and contributes to the marginalization of gay people
they'll say the author didn't know that they would adapt this into a friendship drama as if they know her personally…
There's a difference between a creator's legal freedom and their moral responsibility to their audience
A creator might possess the legal freedom to treat their work however they see fit, but this doesn't absolve them from the obligation to consider the feelings and perspectives of those who engage with their work
Audiences have every right to expect a degree of moral sensitivity and consideration towards marginalized groups from creators. Deviation from these expectations will result in a legitimate sense of disappointment among the audience members, an emotion that creators have no legal right to discourage or silence. They were free to display insensitivity towards e.g. gay stories, audience members are equally free to criticize such insensitivity
In some cases, the disappointment or criticism might catalyze real change, either by teaching the creators to be more mindful of the effects of their work on marginalized groups, or by initiating cultural conversations about representation
Ultimately, it's the responsibility of creators to strike a balance between freedom and social awareness
Its happening everywhere then why lgbtq+ content need special treatment many white characters turned black,neary…
Changing a few white characters to black or making female versions of male characters adds diversity and representation to stories that have traditionally been dominated by straight identifying white men. It gives more people a seat at the table. It doesn't take anyone’s seat away
Changing a gay story to bromance or a straight story, on the other hand, reduces representation
Yes, it does. "Implied" isn't enough. Gay people deserve to be seen, not just hinted at
Drawing inspiration from a straight story and incorporating its elements into a gay story is okay, it allows for the creation of something new that pays homage to the straight story. Censoring a gay story in an adaptation isn't okay, it undermines the integrity of the source material and deprives audiences of representation
It's not universally accepted that piracy is equivalent to stealing. Digital content can be duplicated without the loss of the original
"They are losing money"
It's debatable whether all individuals who pirate content would've paid for legitimate access if piracy weren't an option, making it difficult to correlate piracy with lost revenue
Your accusations of hypocrisy among BL fans rely on presumptions of their motivations and behaviors that aren't grounded in evidence. It's not possible for you to know with certainty who's pirating content and for what reasons. Your judgment of hypocrisy is unwarranted
This censored adaptation retells a gay story with a straight lens, bringing no new perspectives beyond superficially replacing "lovers" with "bros" or "gay" with "stalker"
"You can't label every creative adaptation for whatever reason as an attempt at crushing rights of LGBTQ..."
I can, and I did
"... come to me with facts not your perceived perspective"
I did hit you with facts. This is another fact: your "perceived perspective" is warped, you're looking at the world through a kaleidoscope made of conspiracy theories and faulty logic
"... if gay stories can't be adapted then you must accept that straight stories can't be adapted either...else you are just being an hypocrite"
The issue here is one of power and representation
The mainstream media landscape is dominated by straight stories, while gay stories are relegated to the margins. It creates an unequal distribution of power
Turning a straight story gay is an act of reclamation and resistance, a way of 1) pushing back against the power structures that erase gay stories, 2) creating space for marginalized voices to be heard
Turning a gay story straight reinforces existing power structures and erases already scarce representation of gay stories. It's not hypocritical to advocate for one scenario and oppose the other. The two scenarios don't carry equal weight or significance
The mainstream media landscape has historically been dominated by straight stories, while gay stories are relegated to the margins. It's created an unequal distribution of power
Turning gay stories or characters straight reinforces this power imbalance, it's an issue. Turning straight stories or characters gay disrupts the power structures and shifts the focus from the privileged group (straight identifying people) to the marginalized group (gay people), it's not an issue
It's not hypocritical to oppose one scenario and advocate for the other. The two scenarios don't carry equal weight or significance
Friendship and romance can coexist and enhance one another. The male characters' friendship can be a foundation of trust, respect, and understanding that allows their love to flourish. And their romantic relationship can deepen their emotional connection or add a new dimension to their friendship
It's highly probable that the BL fans who are "pirating" the drama are doing so as a form of protest against the adaptation's censorship. They are refusing to financially support the adaptation through legitimate channels
They aren't being hypocritical. They are using the only means available to them to express their dissatisfaction with the adaptation's censorship and disrespect of the source material
The success of many BL dramas and comics can be attributed, in part, to the dedicated support of the community members, who have proven their willingness to engage with and pay for the content they enjoy
I've noticed that the fans of this censored drama are engaging in piracy and watching on websites like dramacool or kisskh. Piracy isn't unique to BL fans
Creative expression isn't divorced from the social, cultural context in which it's produced and consumed. It's a creator's job to engage with the world around them, to reflect on the social, cultural issues of their time, and to consider the potential effect of their work on society. Artistic freedom isn't a license to create without consequence or criticism
"U don't have a LEGAL right to speak against it"
Freedom of expression is the liberty to criticize the decisions made by those in positions of power or authority, and thus, all individuals are granted the legal right to speak out against censorship, irrespective of whether the censorship is carried out by the creator of a work
The process of creation doesn't grant the creator complete authority over the interpretation or discussion of their work by others. The realm of ideas and discourse transcends the boundaries of individual control, existing as a communal space of shared understanding and knowledge
Regardless, censoring gay stories isn't justified simply because some gay stories have allegedly been inspired by straight ones
Gay representation has historically been limited or erased. The altering of a straight narrative to include gay representation is an act of subversion; a step towards diversity and a new lens through which to understand the world. It challenges the heteronormative paradigm
The erasure or alteration of gay stories reinforces the dominant straight narrative and contributes to the marginalization of gay people
A creator might possess the legal freedom to treat their work however they see fit, but this doesn't absolve them from the obligation to consider the feelings and perspectives of those who engage with their work
Audiences have every right to expect a degree of moral sensitivity and consideration towards marginalized groups from creators. Deviation from these expectations will result in a legitimate sense of disappointment among the audience members, an emotion that creators have no legal right to discourage or silence. They were free to display insensitivity towards e.g. gay stories, audience members are equally free to criticize such insensitivity
In some cases, the disappointment or criticism might catalyze real change, either by teaching the creators to be more mindful of the effects of their work on marginalized groups, or by initiating cultural conversations about representation
Ultimately, it's the responsibility of creators to strike a balance between freedom and social awareness
Where’s the same outrage here? Why do people have a problem with changes that add diversity, but not with changes that erase it?
Changing a gay story to bromance or a straight story, on the other hand, reduces representation