"Characters have no depth"are you sure we are watching the same drama?
Nirvana in Fire (both seasons) and the Joy Of Life dramas (the series is not finished, just be warned) are good wuxia/fantasy (light on the fantasy compared to xianxia, though). Nirvana In Fire is beautifully done (considered one of the best Cdramas ever made), but it takes patience.
I can't get into xianxia at all; I'm not sure I'll ever acquire a taste for excessive pain and suffering that gets repeated over several lifetimes... only for the leads to die at the end or have 5 minutes of happiness to close out 50 episodes of agony.π
The wuxia dramas feel a bit different from the pseudo-historical costume dramas. I would say there are fantasy wuxia dramas (like Ever Night or Blood Of Youth, which focus a lot more on fighting than say, romance), and then costume dramas with wuxia elements in them (like A Dream of Splendor or Flourished Peony). And then dramas with a mish-mash of both. π
Which do you think you'd like more recommendations for?
I watched WIFTY and Hidden Love as well and they do the set the bar high for the modern Cdramas, for sure. If you liked Hidden Love, you might like First Frost (it's not as rosy and playful as HL, though). They have the same writer.
The modern Cdramas haven't stuck their landings for me as much as the costume/wuxia dramas. I did recently finish Meet Yourself (I loved the leads in Floruished Peony and A Dream Of Splendor) and that was absolutely lovely. One of my favorite modern Cdramas now.
Two of my favorite modern action/thriller dramas I've seen so far are Reset (now a big fan of the ML!) and Under The Skin (Seasons 1 and 2--also has buddy cop elements, but with a unique spin). Really enjoyed those modern dramas!
I find it strange that such a good and popular series in china have so few comments here.
I can't find it anywhere legally in the U.S. without subscribing to a 3rd streaming platform. I draw the line at two as I don't use illegal platforms. π So, not sure if I'll ever get to try this. I am curious if I'd like it, though.
When does the FL change sides and join our ML? In Episode 7 and seeing the cop begin to thaw, but the FL's character is still driving me nuts as of Episode 7. π (Lee Ha Nee is gorgeous, but that can't make me root for her character).
I loved the way the original allowed the story and characters space to breathe and "be." Sometimes scenes didn't seem to serve a purpose for the plot, but we got to know characters in those scenes; as a result, a mood was created, and an "experience" of the moment and of life in the simple and the mundane, and I loved that about the original. It elevated what I thought was a pretty soapy drama into a story about humans in need of healing doing life together.
The Kdrama moved like a freight train through the plot, and didn't stop for breath; the breakneck pace certainly kept the story and characters from digging little holes in your heart and taking up residence there like the Cdrama managed to do. The Cdrama is also WAY longer, so you have a lot more time to get attached to the characters.
The children in the Kdrama were fabulous, though. Young Joo Won was as cute as a button.
man what is up with dramas these days.... they start off strong then falter near the final episodes. i just want…
That's like 85% of dramas from any Kdrama era. It's clearly something writers don't care about fixing or else they would have by now (if anyone would know this is a common Kdrama pitfall, it would be the writers; yet the problem persists). π€·ββοΈ It does bother me. π€¨ It's why I wait these days until a new Kdrama ends so I can see how it shakes out before I decide to invest energy into it.
Is it @Mooc!?! If so, I blocked him ages ago, too. π Much more peaceful now.
MDL's resident Kdrama contrarian and one trick pony. π π π Some people have strange hobbies, haha. π€·ββοΈ And the app finally doesn't show me the comments of people I've blocked. π
Oh wow I didn't think my POV would change so fast, at first I still liked it despite my ramble above, but Ig this…
Well, because I enjoyed the Kdrama more, and I think others who had similar gripes as me with Go Ahead might enjoy it, too. :) It's a lovely story overall (so I think it's worth enjoying!), but I preferred the remake's execution.
These things happened in the original Chinese drama, which I found to be problematic:1.) The ML kissed the FL…
I think dramas (C and K) can work on consensual kisses in general, but Go Ahead was definitely quite rough in this respect. Their romance made me really uncomfortable. π¬
I just think creators think getting consent kills the tension in a scene and so they often just have the men plunge in passionately after a lingering moment that builds the tension sky high.
I've noticed more Kdramas doing a "first kiss" for conflicted lovers like this one that I still think isn't ideal or preferred (he technically kissed her in this drama before they were a couple, too), but at least he makes it really clear what he is doing by moving very slowly and deliberately. She had the time and awareness to back away or say no, and when she didn't, he continued. Certainly improvement, but still not quite there...
I personally feel like people who watched the orig Chinese version do not need to watch this. I didn't know what…
I wanted to watch this because I was curious to see if/how they'd improve the problematic content from Go Ahead. After finishing Go Ahead, while I enjoyed some parts very much, I was shocked by how few people had issues with it as a whole.
I can't get into xianxia at all; I'm not sure I'll ever acquire a taste for excessive pain and suffering that gets repeated over several lifetimes... only for the leads to die at the end or have 5 minutes of happiness to close out 50 episodes of agony.π
The wuxia dramas feel a bit different from the pseudo-historical costume dramas. I would say there are fantasy wuxia dramas (like Ever Night or Blood Of Youth, which focus a lot more on fighting than say, romance), and then costume dramas with wuxia elements in them (like A Dream of Splendor or Flourished Peony). And then dramas with a mish-mash of both. π
Which do you think you'd like more recommendations for?
I watched WIFTY and Hidden Love as well and they do the set the bar high for the modern Cdramas, for sure. If you liked Hidden Love, you might like First Frost (it's not as rosy and playful as HL, though). They have the same writer.
The modern Cdramas haven't stuck their landings for me as much as the costume/wuxia dramas. I did recently finish Meet Yourself (I loved the leads in Floruished Peony and A Dream Of Splendor) and that was absolutely lovely. One of my favorite modern Cdramas now.
Two of my favorite modern action/thriller dramas I've seen so far are Reset (now a big fan of the ML!) and Under The Skin (Seasons 1 and 2--also has buddy cop elements, but with a unique spin). Really enjoyed those modern dramas!
The Kdrama moved like a freight train through the plot, and didn't stop for breath; the breakneck pace certainly kept the story and characters from digging little holes in your heart and taking up residence there like the Cdrama managed to do. The Cdrama is also WAY longer, so you have a lot more time to get attached to the characters.
The children in the Kdrama were fabulous, though. Young Joo Won was as cute as a button.
I'm glad I was able to give you a chuckle. π
EDIT: Goblin is #1 for popularity.
I just think creators think getting consent kills the tension in a scene and so they often just have the men plunge in passionately after a lingering moment that builds the tension sky high.
I've noticed more Kdramas doing a "first kiss" for conflicted lovers like this one that I still think isn't ideal or preferred (he technically kissed her in this drama before they were a couple, too), but at least he makes it really clear what he is doing by moving very slowly and deliberately. She had the time and awareness to back away or say no, and when she didn't, he continued. Certainly improvement, but still not quite there...