I'm confused by Dae Woong's (that's how Netflix romanizes the name) character:
I'm only on Episode 4:
What is his relationship to Seo Jin and her mother? They seem close, but Seo Jin is very upright and compassionate and has a strong sense of integrity, while he does not seem to. Dae Woong seems shady because he's doing all these underhanded things and allowing corruption in JU, but there seems to be something more going on that's causing him to act this way, so I just can't figure out where he's coming from.
And Dae Woong's older (half?) brother, the acting-JU president, seemed to want Shin to come in so he could clear corruption up in the company, but now I'm starting to think there must be something shady about him, too. My Kdrama watching instincts are starting to tell me that Dae Woong might end up being misunderstood, and Sae Woong might be the problem... but I could very well be wrong. I guess I'll have to keep watching to find out! 😅
Just finished this. I very much enjoyed the first half-ish part of the drama with it just being them living a…
Yeah, I think I dropped it around 17. It's true not much objectively happened, but it was building so nicely that I found the transition to other settings and movements of the plot really disappointing because they were so poorly executed compared to the beginning.
Correct, and it's easy to slide from being jerks to things that are much worse (because everyone in your sphere and circle is like that, so you adapt and follow suit to keep up). And I'm sure that world is such a bubble and it's easy to get sucked in. My bother-in-law is a YouTuber and he did a collab with a pretty well-known YouTuber years ago (not a collab he'll repeat). My brother-in-law was always really gracious when speaking about him, but you can read between the lines... I'll just say he was very different in real life from the way he portrays himself in his videos! This is why NDAs and such exist, so these people can preserve their images. And it's not AS big of a deal in the U.S. as in Korea. They have a lot to lose if people find out what they're really like...
I will ignore the unnecessary insults, but I just assume most actors, men and women (but men do culturally get away with more, though, I agree with you), are shady/immoral but are good at covering up/hiding their questionable (or downright criminal) behavior; some are worse at pretending than others. It seems Cho Young is one of them. If I drew the line for watching entertainment at, "These are bad people," then I couldn't watch a thing. 😅 Good celebrities are the exception to the rule, and in my opinion, quite rare.
Almost no one with power, privilege, money and fame continue to be good people. When scandals surface about celebrities and the internet loses it, I'm like, "What's the big deal? This is expected behavior." If they get caught doing criminal things, they should get punished, of course, but people act like celebrities are good people, AND THEY'RE NOT.
While none of these observations of him are great, they are also EXTREMELY nitpicky. How/why are people even noticing this much stuff about him in the first place? Do these people have endless free time to sit around and nitpick the most random details about celebrities? 🤦🏼♀️
I can't get fan culture at all. It's way too intense for me...
Yeah, couldn't they do facial recognition, either? They do that with identifying criminals from CCTV in Kdramas…
Yes, it showcased that the ML's father/the villain was a person who continually made choices that brought him to very terrible places, and deep down he knew these were not things he should be doing. I think his choice at the end demonstrated a moment when he finally made a decisions towards the good.
One of the best dramas ever made. The only issue is that it had a prequel that is almost impossible to surpass.…
Agree, both are masterpieces. I agree with @PeachBlossomGoddess that a few roles were somewhat miscast in season 2, but other than that, stellar work of storytelling, and beautifully acted.
Yes, it builds, builds, builds and then soars. As far as Cdramas go, it deserves to be called one of the best…
Well, season 2 is the closest thing I've seen that comes close. It's very different, but still very good for different reasons. I think it has a lower rating and people don't always speak as highly of it because they go into it expecting another NIF, but instead, I would recommend thinking of it as the same kind of writing, in the same world as NIF (a few generations removed), but a completely different story and with very differnt characters in very different situations than season 1. It's more heartbreaking (because a few very beloved characters die) but ends more happily, and I think some of the characters are more endearing. It's also more about familial bonds than friendship bonds. It has the same really tight writing and amazing character arcs/development as season 1, but everything else is different. The villains were not my favorite, but I think I enjoy rewatching it more than season 1.
Let me check some other dramas and see if I remember anything similar-ish. But these are one of a kind, for certain.
Yeah, couldn't they do facial recognition, either? They do that with identifying criminals from CCTV in Kdramas…
I still enjoyed it quite a lot because it felt cohesive from beginning to end in the most important ways (like the main plot, character arcs, pacing, etc.). The writer didn't give up halfway and stop writing like with so many other Kdramas. The fact that this was pre-produced might have something to with it? 🤷🏼♀️ Some small details, to be sure, were not as well executed.
What is his relationship to Seo Jin and her mother? They seem close, but Seo Jin is very upright and compassionate and has a strong sense of integrity, while he does not seem to. Dae Woong seems shady because he's doing all these underhanded things and allowing corruption in JU, but there seems to be something more going on that's causing him to act this way, so I just can't figure out where he's coming from.
And Dae Woong's older (half?) brother, the acting-JU president, seemed to want Shin to come in so he could clear corruption up in the company, but now I'm starting to think there must be something shady about him, too. My Kdrama watching instincts are starting to tell me that Dae Woong might end up being misunderstood, and Sae Woong might be the problem... but I could very well be wrong. I guess I'll have to keep watching to find out! 😅
Correct, and it's easy to slide from being jerks to things that are much worse (because everyone in your sphere and circle is like that, so you adapt and follow suit to keep up). And I'm sure that world is such a bubble and it's easy to get sucked in. My bother-in-law is a YouTuber and he did a collab with a pretty well-known YouTuber years ago (not a collab he'll repeat). My brother-in-law was always really gracious when speaking about him, but you can read between the lines... I'll just say he was very different in real life from the way he portrays himself in his videos! This is why NDAs and such exist, so these people can preserve their images. And it's not AS big of a deal in the U.S. as in Korea. They have a lot to lose if people find out what they're really like...
Almost no one with power, privilege, money and fame continue to be good people. When scandals surface about celebrities and the internet loses it, I'm like, "What's the big deal? This is expected behavior." If they get caught doing criminal things, they should get punished, of course, but people act like celebrities are good people, AND THEY'RE NOT.
I can't get fan culture at all. It's way too intense for me...
Let me check some other dramas and see if I remember anything similar-ish. But these are one of a kind, for certain.