Ethaire

Why?

Du coup boire ou conduire, il y a plus besoin de choisir, c'est la bouteille la fautif :^)

J’ai re-regardé la scène du baiser « sous alcool » (oui, histoire d’être sûr de ce que je voyais).

J’ai rarement vu quelqu’un d’aussi lucide après avoir bu. Elle est même suffisamment consciente de ce qu’elle fait pour recommencer à l’embrasser. Mais apparemment, il suffit d’avoir bu quelques verres pour que l’alcool devienne responsable de toutes nos décisions. C’est quand même pratique, cette excuse : on garde le plaisir, mais on laisse la responsabilité à la bouteille.

What I'm wondering is how many of those defending her would accept the alcohol excuse if their own partner did the exact same thing XD

And would they be just as forgiving if Mi-do were a man? I'm so convinced that a lot of them would change their tune XD

I don't agree with using alcohol as an excuse. First of all, she should never have ended up in the lawyer's office. If you can't control yourself, the least you can do is make sure you don't end up in a situation that could cause problems. And she was lucid enough to start kissing him again.

Anyway, we fundamentally have two different perspectives: I want her to take responsibility for her own shit, while you seem to want to absolve her of responsibility. So we're not going to agree on this point.

That said, I respect your point of view. Once again, it's a good thing we don't all think alike, haha.

We're overthinking something that was written with the darker part of the anatomy.

I never said that infidelity bothered me. In itself, it's an interesting plot point. It's mainly the way the drama itself handles it that can be problematic. But if you don't mind her facing no real consequences for her actions, then I can certainly understand why you enjoy it.

In any case, it's nice that we have different points of view and can have an intelligent discussion about them.

C'est le 2eme commentaire que je vois disant en substance la même chose XD

Overall, I think a lot of people can agree with the main points of your analysis. Where opinions might differ is more in the importance given to certain key moments, particularly Mi-do's lies, her infidelity, and the breakdown of trust caused by her decisions. To me, these are things that significantly change how we perceive the characters and their relationships.

Regarding Mi-do's depression, I also think we need to be more nuanced in how we judge Ho and his family. Sometimes, the things we've had right in front of us for years are precisely the things we notice the least, especially when changes happen gradually. That doesn't necessarily mean they weren't paying attention or didn't care about her.

In the end, I think the difference mainly comes down to what each person takes away from the drama. Some people focus more on the emotional complexity of the characters (personally, I don't really see much complexity here: these are mostly characters who, instead of communicating, prefer to blame others rather than take responsibility for their own choices and actions), while others place more importance on their decisions, the consequences of those decisions, and how all of that is handled.

Maybe they're trying to win viewers back and salvage what's left… but they're going about it the wrong way XD

Bouahaha toujours la bonne vanne ^^

Good good good job !

I'll take your reply as a compliment haha!

That said, Ho isn't completely blameless either. He also bears some responsibility for the deterioration of their relationship. However, he bears absolutely no responsibility for Mi-do's actions and choices, even though the script tries to make us believe that poor Mi-do is a victim of circumstances and that her actions and choices aren't really her own ^^

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Ca sonne tellement réplique de la série de jeu Borderland !
J'ADORE ♥

There are some good things about the drama, we agree on that. It's just that certain elements seem to be there solely to serve the plot, which makes some of the characters' actions and decisions feel really unconvincing.

I actually think we shouldn't even have a bias when it comes to these things. A human being is a human being. The actions are the same, and the consequences should be too, regardless of gender. But that's just my personal opinion, and you have every right to see things differently.

As for Mi-do, her behavior is clearly problematic: wanting to sleep with one man while keeping the other around to maintain her self-esteem. But that's exactly the thing: she's not exactly in a healthy state of mind right now. That doesn't excuse her behavior at all. Personally, I think Ho should have simply kicked her out right then and there.

I also find Mi-do particularly devious in the way she pushes Ho toward Su-a. In my opinion, she's trying to accomplish two things: first, to even things out by pushing Ho to cheat as well. But also, assuming Ho won't actually stay with Su-a, to hurt Su-a so that she'll eventually distance herself from him.

And this brings us to one of the drama's weaknesses: the characters' actions seem to serve the needs of the plot more than their own development. If Mi-do went to therapy, acknowledged her mistakes, and actually started working on herself, there probably wouldn't be much of a story left to tell. And that's where the writing shows its limitations.

The same goes for Ho, who keeps clinging to her. Sure, he's emotionally dependent and acts like a complete doormat, but still…

As for the SML, I agree, he's extremely problematic, and the whole situation between him and Mi-do is just as problematic. I'd add one more thing: imagine for a moment that Mi-do were a man and had done exactly the same things. Imagine how much backlash he'd face and how the comment section would go up in flames.

That also ties directly into your observation about the women defending Mi-do. If so many people defend her despite her actions, it's probably partly because she's a woman. I doubt a male character would receive the same level of leniency in an identical situation.

Finally, regarding those famous butterflies, Mi-do is so completely lost and confused that anything making her feel something could mislead her into mistaking simple attraction for love. But that doesn't excuse a damn thing!

Laisse moi le temps de lire, je reviens !

It's nice that they stayed on good terms, though. Maybe they just didn't go through what our leads are going through here.

In the end, the drama has done its job: it managed to get people engaged. Sure, the reactions are often negative, but it still succeeded in getting viewers to react.

Personally, I don't hate the drama. I actually find its initial premise and much of the way it's developed interesting. What bothers me most is how certain things are downplayed far too easily, as well as the actions and reactions of some characters, which sometimes seem inconsistent to me. Although, paradoxically, these characters are themselves going through a period where their choices aren't necessarily consistent.

Oh shit, I replied in French without translating it first. My bad ^^