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I know, sorry, I missed the notification, my bad.

And again, my point is that we're not talking about "YOU" so stop making it about yourself. It's the result of the "EDUCATION SYSTEM" which hasn't change in essence.

I do believe that generalization is harmful and reductive, but we're not talking about about representation, we're talking about a systemic failure within the academic field (which the West took it up upon themselves to be THE PILLAR by deeming others as barbarians).

It's not a "generalization" that " Westerners, woke people, or social justice warriors" dislike the "SA" scene in the series, if you know their education and their general attitude that they showed in the media; it is an academic observation, that, ironically, those people are one of the most culturally insensitive groups thanks to the historical events, education system, and political system. You might not feel like you do because you're a westerner, but as Asians, many times, I saw Westerners being culturally insensitive. I am not saying that Asians never being culturally insensitive, in a sense I do by making this argument in the first place, but at least we don't have a god-savior complex and tried to justify ourselves, or any other Asian, who do it. And I am not saying you, or the other person did either, but the fact of the matter is, the other person tried their best to justify that not all of Westerners are like that, when in reality, most of them do, just scroll down. And before you say something like, "most is not all", they do when we're talking about public opinion and others perception of you.

And of course when I say "Western People", I meant the people that The West THEMSELVES referred to for hundreds of years to marginalize the East. Do you see my point about systemic failure? that it was not us who treated the West as a monolith, but they did it themselves both figuratively and literally.

"we are different here than 1000 years ago. " that is a very compelling arguments, IF colonialization do happened 1000 years ago, but they didn't decolonialization only started after ww2, which guess what, was less than 100 years ago.

And don't get me wrong, I don't claim to know you, and your pov of sexual assault etc, but I am not talking about you. just scrolled down the comments and you'll find people talking badly about this show because of the one scene that they found "bad" because of Wokeness and Western education, which in case you didn't know, they were the one who wanted to be the centre of the academic world.

People forget that Thai BL Industry started with Lovesick, and as much as I love Lovesick, it was not a good production, but you have to start somewhere,

SOTUS is one of the first BL series, so people get very affectionate and bias about it, the same thing with Lovesick, and Lovesick was worse than SOTUS by a huge margin, but people will still consider it "good" because it was the Pioneer of BL in Film industry in Thailand. We've really come a long way.

Me with Spare Me Your Mercy and The On1y One

Trust me, I know, I was there when Together With Me was first released and every single one of the series fans and their mother go to every single post and commented, "HAVE YOU SEEN HOW MAXTUL KISS", like yeah, I don't think 50 shots a frame within a second is a good kiss.

I think I misread your comment. I am so sorry, it was my bad.

I understand, I do hate stan culture too lol I think the only series in this website that have a high rating and is actually good is I Feel You Linger in the Air. Fun fact, Jack & Joker once actually rated higher than IFYLITA, which is actually a joke if you ask me.

I think you can't really see it through rating if the series is good or not. You have to go through comments and see what people is loving about the series and for the people who hate it, what is the thing they hated.

I would argue this is better than KP and definitely Jack & Joker, that's coming from me who prefer Love Mechanics by Yinwar more than KP. In my entirety of watching BLs since, 2014, this is definitely one of the best one with Love Mechanics and I Feel You Linger in the Air, and probably other series that I forget lol.

I actually one of the people who care about story, I am already disappointed from episode 2 when they revealed that Jack is not actually a bad person, which is a much worse writing than if they let him be scarred turned to be a bad person. I am sorry, but most of the arguments of the people who dislike this, that I read, were actually complaining about the writings, not the "f**k fest" or "tons of gooey romantic scenes". I also studied literature, so I have quite credibility when I say, not this is not "this is first and foremost a plot heavy series"

So no, some of do see the flaws in the writings and are bothered by it. If you don't, that's fine, but don't generalize people and tried to devalue their valid arguments

GMM literally throw away actors they deemed "immarketable" and let their career run stale.

because of the fanbase... YinWar are quite famouse in Thailand, most actors rarely go to talkshows etc when they are not promoting a series, not YinWar. Honestly, I love them a lot, but this series is one of their worse. And it's very disappointing for me beause Love Mechanics, their other series, is my like top 3 series of all time.

Trust me, if Joong knew his fan is like this, the man will disowned them publicly lol

"Mystery" was explained in the second part of the book, so unless they got a season 2, you won't be getting the explanation, there is plenty character development, and honestly, they did a LOT more than the book in this part. One of this show main strength is how it not only care for the main characters like every single other series, they also give care to the minor characters, even the extras. Too dragged, yes it is slow, but honestly, they did better on slow episodes than episode 11, the fast episode. And the book was really fast, way faster than the film, but slowing the pace was one of the best decision they made while keeping the pace of episode 11 as fast as the book was their biggest mistake.

Again, you're still missing my point. Nobody judging anything from something that happened hundred years ago.

AFTER you do what you did, and we said it's because you're from the West, not because of what they did hundred years ago, but because of the SYSTEMIC implication that was showed by the hundred years of history Made by the West. Not what they ancestor did, and certainly not somehing about their personality. (I said you as in you in general)

Again, the SA was beside the point, so I won't comment further on that.

And I totally get you're point, that human are diverse people and each and every single one of us can be authentic selves, and that is how people are today, and how they were. What you miss or rather refuse to understand is that the colonizers and crusaders were also diverse people with different personality, and yet they all did the same thing. Why? Because personality have nothing to do with what we are talking about. It is education, national spirit, mandates from the Church and the countries themselve, etc. that let these multiple people with varying personality did what they did. While the Church and the government has less things to do about the lack of BL literacy and aversion towards "bad experience" representations by the West, their education and national spirits influence over this things pretty much intact. It was because of this most people in the West sees everything that is not in line with their way of living as "wrong",

case in point, Thai adaptation of Addicted where literally the West people are the one who boycott the series because they casted a 16 years old, which was an adult in Thai and many countries in Southeast Asia, but not in the West. How do I know these people are from the West, you ask? Cause whenever someone mention 16 is the legal age in Thai, they replied with "it's not age of adult, it's age of consent," which in case you didn't know, does not exist as a "concept" in most SEA countries, cause if you're adult enough to have sex, then you're adult enough to get married and have a job. That how it is in here.

this is just an example of how the Western education and system often lead to them judging Asian (and other part of the world) using the same lense that the colonizers used (and it is even more ironic when woke people do it because they are using liberal study) which, in case you didn't realize, lead to the aversion of talking SA in BL, or just generally anything SA in BL.

Even if you can't accept that explanation, then you should've at least realized that Asians might have a lot of historical trauma left by the West. You can't expect everyone, the government, education, etc. in Asia to forget hundreds years worth of shit the West had given us with just, "everyone is different" when this "different" people all collectively colonialized the East like a hivemind for 500 years, the least.

Yeah, but that's not my point, that's just me stating my position that I don't like SA.

Because Asians have no historical evidence to be as toxic as South Korea? Unlike the West, which has 1000++++ years worth of history of them causing disaster in the world just to spread their belief system, like Crusade, Colonialism, etc. Like, if you say Asians are strict disciplinarians parents, no one would disagree with you because that's a fact, and we, Asians, can accept the truth, unlike the West. That's just history, if you are the one who thinks I am not making sense, then you should have asked the Western people's ancestors, not me, cause they are the ones who did it, not Asians.

Ummm no? I think you're the one who was thinking of a different reply. You asked why would the poster lumped the west, and entirw region, and make a generalization, because historically, that entire region loves to propagate their beliefs to everyone.

Westerners are famously known to force people to follow what they believe in, like in the dark ages, the catholic churches with their crusade, and today, the woke people and social justice warrior. Like, we get it, SA is bad, and it came from someone who hate addicted, but bad things happened in life, not every story have to be sunshine and rainbows.

And that's not even the problem with this series, like slapping SA on every scene where the characters dislike each other when it is obviously just a hate sex shows how much underdeveloped woke people and social justice warriors' interpersonal skill are.