haven't been on this page for a while and it seems like it's gotten so toxic here. lol while I LOVE this drama I must admit the marketing was way off, they attracted all the crazies and failed to give them the toxicity and (porn) they wanted. instead they delivered a wholesome show about accepting who you are and allowing yourself to have all the things you didn't think the real you deserved, a show about healing past traumas and finding the strength to choose happiness and love even when your uncertain and afraid of being hurt again. lol
I love this show so much, I love how relatable the characters are, gmmtv needs to produce more of these slice of life dramas, dramas aren't for everyone, I wish pple would admit they don't like the genre rather than complain and call it boring as if there is something wrong with the writing, plot and or execution. there is nothing wrong with the writing cause it's a slice of life drma, it's meant to be realistic and relatable. the genre just isn't for you.
what's your interpretation of toxic? did you want a cheating plotline, rape? physical abuse?or something else…
well duhz it's the pilot, anyone can watch it and get that it's a red flag concept but we were not told how the term red flag would be expressed in these characters, it's perfectly reasonable for someone to watch the pltfailer and expect a cheating plot etc. but at he end of the day it boils down to interpretation, that's why I asked the question to begin with. personally I think they are toxic, Dean is toxic TO JIMSELF in the sense that he feels he only has his body to offer to feel values, and that thought leads him to treat moth as another fling when moth actually likes him for him... moth has his own hangups which makes them toxic. it all boils down to worldview and how YOU view toxicity. Aparently you watched the show and thought this was a very healthy relationship and no one has mental issues what so ever.
alot of pple disappointed in the way the kiss scenes were cut. why? dean and moth are nothing more than friends with benefits, this is a romance, what's the point of long lingering kiss scenes if the characters feel nothing for each other, wouldn't that come off as fanservice? it's honestly so sad seeing pple hate on this episode cause they didn't get longer NC scenes.. honestly is that all you watch dramas for? what about the story, the characterization and every other good thing that this drama is excelling at? reducing the actors worth to NC scenes is quiet sad
I've seen a lot of comments feeling sorry for dean and honestly I kinda felt bad for him too but he's not some victim. he CHOSE this life he's stuck in. like Est said we have to recognize that he's in the wrong too.
I love how dean is loyal to moth, it's so uncharacteristic of him to date one person exclusively, like he's not even talking to anyone else. he doesn't know it yet but that alone proves that he's serious about Moth
hope you don't mind AI, Cause I'm too busy to type so I asked deepseek;MAJOR SPOILERS BELOW. Based on the novel…
the copy I have cuts off before the translation Is complete but it's just a few pages that were left... I'd say in about 98% of the novel he doesn't find out
and hey if you want dean's back story too.. click the reply to THIS comment. SPOILERS
Dean’s backstory,---1.
The country boy in the photograph Dean was born in Ratchaburi, a rural province. He literally says: “I’m a country boy. I was born in the middle of the mud. I’m not from a rich family.” His parents were government workers, not wealthy or glamorous. His older sister, Duen, runs Rivulet Cafe in their hometown.
His family bought a house in Bangkok for when they had business there, but they rarely stayed. Over time, Dean treated it as his own space—but it was never completely his. His sister could show up anytime, and his parents could return whenever they needed to.
In an old family photo, Dean is a thin boy in a school uniform with thick-framed glasses. Quiet. Well-behaved. Utterly ordinary. That boy is the key to everything.---
2. The core wound: terror of being ordinaryDean isn’t afraid of being “bad.” He’s afraid of being boring.
The text says: “He was afraid that, deep down, he was nothing more than that ordinary and boring boy in the photograph.”
He looked at his old self and saw someone who would grow up to live a simple provincial life, work an ordinary job, return home on time, eat dinner with family, and let every day pass just like the one before. That terrified him.So he built a persona: the charming, loud, flirtatious, always-in-demand Dean. Owner of the EveryDean Live channel. Famous enough to have millions of followers. A regular at MANIAC Bar. The guy everyone notices. But it was all a performance—a way to drown out the silence inside him.---3.
The hookups and the lonelinessDean slept with a lot of people: He was open about it, never promising commitment, never letting anyone get too close. He never brought anyone to his bedroom. Moth is the first.He used sex, parties, and attention to feel wanted—but it never filled the emptiness. Even surrounded by friends at MANIAC Bar, he felt alone. When he saw Ohm and Boom become a real couple, he felt “a strange emptiness in his chest” and didn’t know what it meant.---
4. Family shame and hiding Dean hid his hometown and his sister’s cafe from Moth because he was ashamed of being ordinary. When Moth found out, Dean admitted:“I don’t know if anyone would care or even want to know.”His sister Duen called him out brutally. She said their mother didn’t have expectations—she just wanted “her son back—the one she had.” That line stayed with Dean because he knew he had buried that innocent country boy to survive. He avoided home. He avoided his family. He avoided anything that reminded him of who he used to be.---
The country boy in the photograph
Dean was born in Ratchaburi, a rural province. He literally says: “I’m a country boy. I was born in the middle of the mud. I’m not from a rich family.” His parents were government workers, not wealthy or glamorous. His older sister, Duen, runs Rivulet Cafe in their hometown.
His family bought a house in Bangkok for when they had business there, but they rarely stayed. Over time, Dean treated it as his own space—but it was never completely his. His sister could show up anytime, and his parents could return whenever they needed to.
In an old family photo, Dean is a thin boy in a school uniform with thick-framed glasses. Quiet. Well-behaved. Utterly ordinary. That boy is the key to everything.---
2. The core wound: terror of being ordinaryDean isn’t afraid of being “bad.” He’s afraid of being boring.
The text says:
“He was afraid that, deep down, he was nothing more than that ordinary and boring boy in the photograph.”
He looked at his old self and saw someone who would grow up to live a simple provincial life, work an ordinary job, return home on time, eat dinner with family, and let every day pass just like the one before. That terrified him.So he built a persona: the charming, loud, flirtatious, always-in-demand Dean. Owner of the EveryDean Live channel. Famous enough to have millions of followers. A regular at MANIAC Bar. The guy everyone notices.
But it was all a performance—a way to drown out the silence inside him.---3.
The hookups and the lonelinessDean slept with a lot of people: He was open about it, never promising commitment, never letting anyone get too close.
He never brought anyone to his bedroom. Moth is the first.He used sex, parties, and attention to feel wanted—but it never filled the emptiness. Even surrounded by friends at MANIAC Bar, he felt alone. When he saw Ohm and Boom become a real couple, he felt “a strange emptiness in his chest” and didn’t know what it meant.---
4. Family shame and hiding
Dean hid his hometown and his sister’s cafe from Moth because he was ashamed of being ordinary. When Moth found out, Dean admitted:“I don’t know if anyone would care or even want to know.”His sister Duen called him out brutally. She said their mother didn’t have expectations—she just wanted “her son back—the one she had.” That line stayed with Dean because he knew he had buried that innocent country boy to survive.
He avoided home. He avoided his family. He avoided anything that reminded him of who he used to be.---
5. The hidden domestic side