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2 days ago the rating was 8.4 ... it's now at 8.3.

Whoever cast him for 'Love With Flaws' was a genius. Talk about a role that lets an actor show his range! And he absolutely killed it. I have watched his scenes so many times and they still move me.

This is the Kdrama that made me fully understand why Kdramas are the cream of the crop. Everything is on point and the cast is sensational.

Finished it today and really enjoyed it. There's an almost operatic sweep to the story -- bigger than life in so many ways, and beautifully produced.

Joy's acting seemed really good. I've seen much worse FLs, and for me the reason they're usually bad is they make too much of every emotion. Joy was more steady in her role and reserved the emotional moments for when they mattered, and because of that I think they had more impact.

Moon Ga Young was magnificent. I would never have guessed that she's the same actress who played the frivolous FL in 'EXO Next Door'. Here she did such a great job playing evil that she should make sure she gets some sympathetic character roles in the future, otherwise she might get typecast.

Woo Do Hwan ... what can I say. Amazing performance and great presence as an actor. And he cries so believably -- which is good because in this series he has to do a lot of that lol.

My one quibble is that once again a series that features really mean characters lets them find redemption in the end. However this bunch did experience some karmic retribution so I'm not going to fuss too much about it.

I'd love to see the rating pushed higher.

I rewatched the first episodes and noticed that 'Ehhh!' is something that Pan and Soda say. Soda lets out an 'Ehhh!" in Ep 5 or maybe it was Ep 4.

This might end up being proof to other people that they really did swap bodies, since the real Kim probably didn't say 'Ehhh!' all the time before it happened.

I agree with everything you've said. This has turned out to be a nice surprise.

I also think you're right about the end game, and I like it as much as you do. :)

Way told "Kim" that the only person he could ever laugh with like that is him, and in addition he confessed that he'd never been intimate with his gf. Now, maybe "Kim" (as occupied by Pan) finally made Way comfortable enough to admit these truths, but the truths themselves are things that extend well back before the big switch.

It seems clear to me that Pan will end up with Khet in the end. They're seat mates and she's becoming more and more impressed with Khet's character. Plus, you don't cast a big name in Thai series like Ohm and *not* have him prevail in some major way.

Since Soda is a side character and has been treated as such, that leaves the other couple to be Way and Kim. Kim's relationship with the teacher looks more like a matter of convenience to him since the teacher mentions that they've never kissed.

I think we'll learn post-switch that Kim has also had feelings for Way and that because of "Kim"/Pan's influence, Way will finally take the initiative and the two will end up together. Also, it might turn out that post-switch there is a small trace of Pan still left behind in Kim's personality. (That would be less satisfying for me personally -- I want Kim to have been feeling it on his own all along.)

Golly. I make a sincere effort to explain myself and get dismissed with 'Get a life!' I doubt you really read what I wrote so you're not worth conversing with further.

Wow, you nailed it! These are all terrific.

LMAO ... a man after my own heart.

Hope springs eternal haha. It started at around 9.2 so it has fallen from grace pretty dramatically, but I'd be happy if it went down just a little bit more, to 8.3.

Is that asking too much, BL gods? :)

I'm a fairly regular anti-2gether on here (my proof of membership is that I rated it 3/10 lol) and you're actually a new name to me, so I don't know what that other person is talking about.

Welcome! :)

For people like me, who couldn't wait for the series to start and had about a dozen pics of Bright saved on my phone before the first episode even aired, I think it is a matter of being tremendously disappointed. I mean: really, really disappointed. I thought this would be the best BL series in history.

GMMTV promoted the bejesus out of it and I think as a result the standard it's been held to is higher. They had a big budget, gorgeous actors, and an experienced director, and they even made a great start of it, but then they basically blew it. To add insult to injury they've *continued* to promote the bejesus out of it, with excruciating side projects like 'Play 2gether' and the upcoming 'Still 2gether', which I now expect will be just as disappointing so I'm keeping expectations low this time.

I got so tired of seeing Bright on my Twitter feed that I've had to mute a couple dozen accounts. (Unfortunately this included Win since he is always posting stuff of himself with Bright.) Bright's cute, but he wasn't talented enough to hide how uncomfortable he was being in a BL, and the series itself ended terribly. For GMMTV to continue promoting him and it so heavily was starting to feel absurd.

A few days ago I rediscovered all those old pics of Bright that I'd saved on my phone and recoiled in horror. As I deleted them I realized how my attitude on the series had done a 180. I'm not saying I'm representative of a majority of the 'haters' but my dislike is from the perspective of a jilted lover. The feeling is much stronger than if I'd just stumbled on the series, watched a few episodes, then dropped it. I was ready to get married and it left me at the altar lol.

Maybe by now you've already seen how that little plot thread turns out. Nobody ever tells her nuttin'.

I was disappointed that Kanata even went into the hospital room to see her. If it was me I would have donated the blood and gotten the hell out of there. I would also have told the "sister" to go pound sand.

(The fact that she's later writing him letters to tell him how the mother is doing was the most absurd thing about the finale montage. Nobody cares about that selfish woman! Nobody!)

Right. Even the way they cast it gives away the ending. They wouldn't put Krist in this drama unless he gets the girl in the end.

Just imagine what a sensation this would be if they didn't follow the original. I bet it would get even more views.

I guess you don't believe that they purposely held back on any hand-holding, cuddling, or post-confession kissing when they made the series. I think they did -- probably for the precise reason that it would find acceptance in countries that don't typically welcome BL content. We'll have to agree to disagree on whether that is a good thing.

Censorship implies that a third party went into a finished work and made their own changes in order to suppress the content. I don't think that happened here. Everything in 2gether was committed with intent.

Still, even if 2gether wasn't censored I do think that on the scale of bromance to BL, it is more at the bromance end of the spectrum. And there's no reason that a bromance-heavy BL can't have meaning for its audience.

I'm glad that 2gether appeals to Pinoy, Japanese, and Indonesian men and affirms who they are. Anyone who has grown up gay has had experiences like that with TV and movies that validate them in a special way, myself included. (Not every part of the west is tolerant, btw. I have gay cousins in South Carolina and they live a very different life than I do in Boston.)

This all makes me wonder if a series like Love Sick would be accessible in those countries, since it too avoided m/m kissing but the cuddling and horseplay in that series has a undeniable gay edge to it. Early on the two boys are washing a scooter and they get into a soapy wrestling match. That one scene is gayer than anything in 2gether.

What I fear most about 2gether is that its success will influence future BLs and make them just as bland and non-committal.

He's great. Big future ahead.

Thanks for awarding it with a good score. I think COVID-19 forced them to stage the group conversations as social media dialog and the result was pretty awkward. They clearly wanted to avoid dropping the story entirely and this was the compromise, and although it was sometimes difficult to follow I do appreciate that they tried.

I think all the social media conversations are what they did as a compromise in dealing with COVID-19. As the conversations played out on the screen I could imagine that they started as scenes where the cast was actually together and talking.

Unfortunately, when there's not a visual element the dialog has to be snappy and engaging enough to hold interest. In this case it wasn't, and so this part of EN of Love suffers for it.

I really feel for the cast and producers. It must be so frustrating. They clearly wanted to come through for us. I am going to grade this series on a steep curve because I appreciate their efforts and hope they'll get back in business with another series when conditions allow.