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It was so promising, the first episodes were really great, but then it becomes a mess... 2ml was for sure annoying, but the worst one is the female lead. No character development till the end, no real reason behind her actions, no consideration for other emotions; it's the first time that I really though ML deserved someone better.

BTW The drama is saved by other characters and the ML, he is really handsome and acted so well in the sweet/love scenes

What I hope:
Chang min (the popular one for now) with Chan gyu (they share the bed I know, but I'm already shipping them, knowing that my heart will break at some point)

Jeong Hyeon (the so called villain lol the one that calls everyone Hyung!) with Seon yul (the guy that was cooking all alone, why no one helped him? lol)

Jeon Eun Chan (the bored guy in the single room) with the one that I can't seem to find his name, the one that was on the first date with Chang min (in the room with Seon yul)


What I thing it'll be:

Triangle between Chang min, Chan gyu and Jeong Hyeon which is going to left out Chang gyu, who is going to go out with Jeon Eun Chan, but they are not going to be the end game.
I think two possibile couples could be the end game:

Jeon Eun Chan with the one I don't remember the name
Jeong Hyeon with Seon yul



P.s. I didn't say that I'm pretty bad with guessing right couples, didn't I? ahahaha Never trust me!

I thing SK has though "If I can't win with BLs, let me go for the reality show!" :') Whatever the reason, I'm really glad to see this kind of show, not just for the LGBTQ+ exposure of course (for that I think Marry Queer is going to the be the right one), but also just for the simple interest in seeing dynamics of gay love relationships. Thus also just for an entertaining goal, it's pure refreshing compared to all the dating reality out there; also on Netflix there is no space for that, so SK go on, take the market! ahahah. Regarding the 1st episode I'm really into it and I'm quite sad to have discovered it at the beginning, the wait is going to be really painful. Btw the calling thing is the most awkward thing ever, but it's something that probably later on is going to be really trilling and I hope they are going to learn to not be in the same room waiting for that ahahhaha.


BTW I want to make some guesses to see how wrong I'll be at the end....

I completely agree

Yeah, I agree on that, I mean about seeing him live like nothing happens.. I was just trying to look at this situation not just in this particular case, but more about the usual procedure of apologizing, disappearing and possibile loosing carreer. I think that we can still find a better way to deal with that, but I understand that for now is the only option that seems to work. I always try to look at things with a different point of view, and try to reflect on how things could have been done, that's all.

I wasn't saying that is not a serious issue, but these kinds or comments unfortunately are common among people, even women. Thus I don't think that just leaving him outside for a period of time is going to be useful, because if it's really an awful person he still is going to have his career later, if it was just an actual though that he, together with society changing, has left behind, he is going to be always be called "the rapist joker" or even "the rapist". In any case, it's a loss

Yes, I absolutely agree that he must take accountability, but I don't agree with the method because I think it's useless to the cause. This apologize and time to reflect thing, so typical in this industry it's just a way to wash their hands away and then come back when people already forget about that. Nothing change. I think the only lesson they learn is on how to not say something like that in public, but still they can think those things. For me it's a big NO.

I know that I'm going to say something not so popular, and I don't say this as a "fangirl". I'm into dramas, but I don't follow so much the actors outside. The thing is that I really don't like that when some awful things about an actor or an idol became public the reaction is always the "cancelling".
If any time something like that comes out, the carrier is in trouble as a consequence, we are creating a world in which everyone must FAKE in order to not lose his/her job. Because this kinds of thoughts are not going to disappeared like that, just digging everything under the surface. Something bad is said, than apologize, than what? Nothing change, everyone is going to be focus on the actor/idols carreer and not on the reason why that was wrong to say and on how to educate ourself and others. The issue it became more an action of revenge and everyone forget that cancelling people for saying something awful is the best way to not hear anyone said those kinds of things, but they are still going to be in the head of people. Instead of asking for build's career to end, why don't ask him the reason why he now think that were bullshits? Why don't use this chance to let me him talk about those topic with a new light? Using is mistakes, using is new popularity for something good? This cancelling method is not going to take us to a better society.

No I wasn't quantifying the impact of Vegas abuse, but being abused and have empathy torwards the perpetrator doesn't mean always Stockholme Syndrome. Actually in KP I finally can see also the consequences of an abuse or an act without consent, the pain that this can cause. In many other thai series is always romanticized (example is Tharnthype -> good drama, but in the beginning it was without consent). In this case (I'm talking just about the series and not the book) violence is more linked to an "enemy kidnapping", meanwhile their relationship is still twisted, but consensual. So yes, violence, abuse, but was also part of their lifestyle, we are still talking about mafia families. And I think (this is my pure speculation) that Pete's pain it was so strong because of the mixed feelings towards Vegas, not for the physical pain. I think that audience is romanticizing their love, but the KP script shows that they are highlithing the trauma that violence can cause and how they are both in pain. If not, Pete would have not punched Vegas and he would have been there in the room with him.

SS happens when the attachment is caused ONLY by the situation of being kidnapped/abused and also it needs time to be developed. It is not something that happens in one week. Pete, already before the kidnapping, has shown a sort of interest in Vegas. He already knew his story, his behaviour etc... and probably he also saw parts of himself in Vegas, because he was also beaten by the father. Vegas darkness probably reminds him the darkness that he has learned how to keep shut down. So twisted, toxic relationship, but not SS.

I agree, with Thai series is even more difficult to found a product well done in all the aspects, not just the story or the chemistry, but also the great acting and the script as well. KP delivers it so well, it deserves better!

I'm laughing thinking about Vegas so sure about his methods, but also confuse about Pete's reaction LOL I'd say that in another context that sentence and also that "fool" would have been perfect. But it was the worst time ever to say that, with Pete still handcuffed and traumatized for what was just happened.

Definitely is more clear with the book explanation...thank you!

In my mind I hope Porsche asked Pete about that before and he was just surprised, but not completely in the dark about Vegas being there. I felt too much pain for Pete, as long as I'm completely in love with Vegas character, I hoped someone showed him a little more consideration about his willingness :(

Yes, that's probably true, but I hope it was more for something that later Pete told him, and not because of Vegas words. I mean, he is the one that caused him pain, how can you trust him? (Of course I'm just considering this just with Porches character's point of view, not the one of us watching)

It's only me or the one and only time in which Porsche has shown flaws as character has been in 13 episode? He has been my favorite from the beginning, but the meeting with Vegas in exchange of the encounter with Pete it was a trap. Pete didn't say anything about what happened with him, but he was clearly traumatized and also hurt and bloodied, how could he just think that it was ok for him to meet Vegas? He was egoistic at this point. What do you think?

It's already there... thank you!

Oh I was hoping it was already somewhere to watch... I can't wait :3

Where are you watching ep13 with eng subs?

You don't need to insult other's tastes, to make yours more valid.