Disclaimer: I’m commenting about Selty saying he released the sex video. I’m not talking about the assault…
Where did I say he did not assault her? Where did I not say he was an evil man that deserves punishment? When have I downplayed his crimes? Just because I corrected a sentence by Selty saying that he released the video, it means I’m defending him?
“ Most of Kdrama viewers are females and to see you basically defending him since you claim that 1. the sex tape was filmed with her consent and 2. he didn't release it, just threatened to release is truly hurtful.” What is false about this? The court did rule in his favor about the filming and he did not release the video. Those are fact, you can’t change fact just because they don’t fit your narrative or because you are hurt. That is basically all I want to point out by my previous post, I did not defend him, just wanted to clear the misinformation.
I know we are all hurt by her passing and angry at him, but we should not be posting fake info or accusing him of crime the court found him innocent for. And I’m all in if you want to criticism his assault and him threatening her, but I do hate when people attribute crimes to people already found innocent for. I’m sure both you and I don’t know better than the judge, lawyers, and prosecutors who oversaw the case. Just like Sulli and Hara were affected by fake facts and cyberbullying, you should leave the court to handle his sick mind instead of also cyberbully him and attribute crimes to him. We don’t want to steep to the level of cyberbullies who post fake info to vent out their anger and sadness. If he kills himself too because of the cyberbullying and false crime attribution, would you feel sorry or take responsibility for that? You were a part of it too, just like the fuckers who ruined Sulli because they *felt* she is a bad/slutty person for not wearing a bra. Stop relying on *your feelings* and accusing people of false crimes, and rely on facts and evidence.
****************************** Plain and simple facts for you: He was guilty of threatening her with the release of the sex video to destroy her career (which he never released), physically assaulting her in her home while she was sleeping, and destroying her property during the fight, but he is not guilty of filming her. ****************************** ^^^ Whether you want to believe it over your feeling is your choice. But don't accuse people of being misinformed or downplaying the crime when they provide facts you don't like.
"I hope that you stop spreading disinformation, especially since you are a volunteer staff on My Drama List and should be held responsible for your words and actions." Why should I be held responsible for clearing misinformation and spreading facts? Also, even if I'm a staff member, I'm entitled to my own opinions. You are the one who should be held responsible for trying to start fights with people who did not disagree with you, but you don't know that since you did not bother read what we wrote.
Also, a side note. I read somewhere that prosecutors were going to appeal the ruling to get him a more severe punishment for assault and threatening her (which I’m happy for).
behind all the glamor of Korean entertainment industry, there's a lot of darkness. a lot of improvement has to…
Disclaimer: I’m commenting about Selty saying he released the sex video. I’m not talking about the assault and destruction of property that he was found guilty of. I'm just trying to clear misinformation about the release of the sex video, not defend him. He a vile person and deserves punishment, but we need to get the facts straight.
First, it is a crime to release revenge porn or secretly film someone without consent in South Korea. It carries a maximum of 5 years in prison.
Second, the court acquitted him of the charge of filming the victim’s body without permission. Apparently, the sex video was submitted to the court where the judge confirmed the video privately. After watching the video, he acquitted him. http://ilyo.co.kr/?ac=article_view&entry_id=354558
Since he was a first-time offender, he was sentenced to a prison sentence of one year and six months, suspended for three years of probation. Meaning if he causes any problems in those 3 years, he will be sent to prison for one year and six months.
Also, we can't just associate her death solely with the assault or him threatening to release the video. She may have been strongly affected by it, but depression and suicide don’t come from one reason, they are multiple factors that make the person’s life unbearable. She might have also been hurt by Korea's cancel culture where she was no longer able to perform in her country and having to go to Japan. Or the death of her friend Sulli affected her greatly since she was not able to attend the funeral because she was performing in Japan.
Let's not continue on the bullying. He was never charged with sexual assault because the sex between them was…
Just a clarification: There was no sexual crime committed. In August, Choi was acquitted of the charge of filming the Hara’s body without permission, meaning it was filmed consensually. But was charged for threatening to release it.
I don't think fans can do much. Agencies should set up support systems and provide artists with mental diagnosis…
Following Sulli's death, a lot of agencies sued cyberbullies and netizens who posted hate comments on behalf of their artists. Moreover, new laws are being suggested in Korea to combat the hate comment infested sections.
It is a step in the right direction that came after great loss ( Sulli's death), but they should continue doing that to avoid having more victims. It is certainly not that hard or expensive for agencies compared to losing artists.
I wonder if there is something that we as fans can do to help?Do we shut down trolls?Make sure we tell them we…
I don't think fans can do much. Agencies should set up support systems and provide artists with mental diagnosis and counseling . Lots of artists suffer from mental illness that they don't know about and they suffer for years. They need people around them who will listen and provide support.
What can also be done is having agencies go after hate comments and cyberbullies. They need also to loosen some of the strict rules, such as no dating. Artists need to live like human beings, they are not machines. They want to love and experience life, or else their life would be empty and they are bound to be depressed.
Can anyone tell me does Jung Kyung Ho got enough screen time and how is his acting and character
He is one of the main characters, so he is in a lot of scenes. Also, his acting is great and I love his character and the bromance between the two main characters.
I’ve only seen Goblin by her but seriously that’s all it took for me to confidently say and believe; this…
I'm sorry to all her fans, but I kinda agree. I watched four of her dramas and noticed that her characters are shallow and the plot always has potential but ends up nowhere. Just for the sake of the romance aspect/scenes of the drama, the characters end up doing things that are very inconsistent with their personalities.
For example, you can see poorly written characters in Goblin. Apparently, the goblin is supposed to be a 900-years-old army general. So you naturally would think that he is mature and wise due to the year he lived, experiences he has been through, people he lost, and the loneliness and helplessness he felt for 900 years? No. The writer is like, let's suddenly, and for some unknown reason, make him act like a 13-year-old girl by worrying about what he wears and what he is holding when the female lead, whom he just recently met, summons him. Moreover, the female lead doesn't act like a teenage high school student, instead, she behaves like a child. She sticks to the goblin straight away after meeting him cause ghosts been telling her that she is his bride. Trust me, no teenage girl would accept she has to be with an older dude because she is told to. She has no independent thoughts at all.
Somehow her older dramas were watchable, but the quality of the writing went down with each drama. I don't want her to stop since some people like her dramas, but I really do hope she includes another writer with her when working on projects so that they can give her a different perspective and improve the plots and characters. She can come up with great main ideas, but the execution is bad.
Rules: 1. Changing actors/actresses’ cover images is not based on personal tastes. We only change actors’…
It was changed because of an update to the guidelines. We need to have images that feature the actor’s head, not just the face and his hair is cut off, since the pictures don’t show up properly on the cast list.
This is actually on the recent images of him we can find, I’ll try looking for another one, but if we can’t find a better one, we have to keep this.
“ Most of Kdrama viewers are females and to see you basically defending him since you claim that 1. the sex tape was filmed with her consent and 2. he didn't release it, just threatened to release is truly hurtful.”
What is false about this? The court did rule in his favor about the filming and he did not release the video. Those are fact, you can’t change fact just because they don’t fit your narrative or because you are hurt. That is basically all I want to point out by my previous post, I did not defend him, just wanted to clear the misinformation.
I know we are all hurt by her passing and angry at him, but we should not be posting fake info or accusing him of crime the court found him innocent for. And I’m all in if you want to criticism his assault and him threatening her, but I do hate when people attribute crimes to people already found innocent for. I’m sure both you and I don’t know better than the judge, lawyers, and prosecutors who oversaw the case. Just like Sulli and Hara were affected by fake facts and cyberbullying, you should leave the court to handle his sick mind instead of also cyberbully him and attribute crimes to him. We don’t want to steep to the level of cyberbullies who post fake info to vent out their anger and sadness. If he kills himself too because of the cyberbullying and false crime attribution, would you feel sorry or take responsibility for that? You were a part of it too, just like the fuckers who ruined Sulli because they *felt* she is a bad/slutty person for not wearing a bra. Stop relying on *your feelings* and accusing people of false crimes, and rely on facts and evidence.
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Plain and simple facts for you: He was guilty of threatening her with the release of the sex video to destroy her career (which he never released), physically assaulting her in her home while she was sleeping, and destroying her property during the fight, but he is not guilty of filming her.
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^^^ Whether you want to believe it over your feeling is your choice. But don't accuse people of being misinformed or downplaying the crime when they provide facts you don't like.
"I hope that you stop spreading disinformation, especially since you are a volunteer staff on My Drama List and should be held responsible for your words and actions."
Why should I be held responsible for clearing misinformation and spreading facts? Also, even if I'm a staff member, I'm entitled to my own opinions. You are the one who should be held responsible for trying to start fights with people who did not disagree with you, but you don't know that since you did not bother read what we wrote.
Also, a side note.
I read somewhere that prosecutors were going to appeal the ruling to get him a more severe punishment for assault and threatening her (which I’m happy for).
https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/entertainment/article/3039159/k-pop-singer-goo-haras-death-less-six-weeks-after-her-k-pop
First, it is a crime to release revenge porn or secretly film someone without consent in South Korea. It carries a maximum of 5 years in prison.
Second, the court acquitted him of the charge of filming the victim’s body without permission.
Apparently, the sex video was submitted to the court where the judge confirmed the video privately. After watching the video, he acquitted him.
http://ilyo.co.kr/?ac=article_view&entry_id=354558
Third, he did not release it, he just threatened her. The court found him guilty of it: https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/entertainment/article/3039159/k-pop-singer-goo-haras-death-less-six-weeks-after-her-k-pop
Since he was a first-time offender, he was sentenced to a prison sentence of one year and six months, suspended for three years of probation. Meaning if he causes any problems in those 3 years, he will be sent to prison for one year and six months.
Also, we can't just associate her death solely with the assault or him threatening to release the video. She may have been strongly affected by it, but depression and suicide don’t come from one reason, they are multiple factors that make the person’s life unbearable. She might have also been hurt by Korea's cancel culture where she was no longer able to perform in her country and having to go to Japan. Or the death of her friend Sulli affected her greatly since she was not able to attend the funeral because she was performing in Japan.
There was no sexual crime committed. In August, Choi was acquitted of the charge of filming the Hara’s body without permission, meaning it was filmed consensually. But was charged for threatening to release it.
It is a step in the right direction that came after great loss ( Sulli's death), but they should continue doing that to avoid having more victims. It is certainly not that hard or expensive for agencies compared to losing artists.
What can also be done is having agencies go after hate comments and cyberbullies. They need also to loosen some of the strict rules, such as no dating. Artists need to live like human beings, they are not machines. They want to love and experience life, or else their life would be empty and they are bound to be depressed.
For example, you can see poorly written characters in Goblin. Apparently, the goblin is supposed to be a 900-years-old army general. So you naturally would think that he is mature and wise due to the year he lived, experiences he has been through, people he lost, and the loneliness and helplessness he felt for 900 years? No. The writer is like, let's suddenly, and for some unknown reason, make him act like a 13-year-old girl by worrying about what he wears and what he is holding when the female lead, whom he just recently met, summons him. Moreover, the female lead doesn't act like a teenage high school student, instead, she behaves like a child. She sticks to the goblin straight away after meeting him cause ghosts been telling her that she is his bride. Trust me, no teenage girl would accept she has to be with an older dude because she is told to. She has no independent thoughts at all.
Somehow her older dramas were watchable, but the quality of the writing went down with each drama. I don't want her to stop since some people like her dramas, but I really do hope she includes another writer with her when working on projects so that they can give her a different perspective and improve the plots and characters. She can come up with great main ideas, but the execution is bad.
This is actually on the recent images of him we can find, I’ll try looking for another one, but if we can’t find a better one, we have to keep this.
However, it is said that it will air in December 2019.
Trying to appeal to us to add Fair Xing is not going to change anything, we are not the producers of this drama, we are a database only.