It's the Zhen bird, Kim Han-cheol bought it in Qing the year before the Gyesa year. His poison was used to kill…
Wow... I saw the bird in ep 6.... The shadow of that bird moving showed in Left Minister feeding it a snake scene and later when they imprisoned Dal I ... wow. Huge bird with huge beak that looks like pterodactyl LOL
What is that pterodactyl bird in that cave??? is that the Jujjuma or whatever bird from which.. doodoo? you make poison... ???
That U Hui actress is really terrible, not one emotion on her face. That is impossible that her prince fell in love with THAT. And after all her psycho confessions for clinging to him forever... how did he feel when he finally realized she was a monster the entire time... ? Let Minister acting is also ... too ... simple. Reminds me of the villain in Ms. Incognito. There is nothing that moves on that face except lips talking. He is .. BORING. Even as a serial killers, both father and daughter are BORING amd actors are ... bad :)
Sorry I'm not too used to discussions... Should I copy paste there again with the new elements they gave in the…
I tried copying your post into discussions but discussions did not let me, says TOKEN VERIFICATION FAILED even if I remove your name tag @Valicious. So I asked you to try to post in Discussions. I am not sure what is required for posting there
But it does not matter anymore. @LMorgan0220 managed to post it into Discussions :) The link from that post works :) THANK YOU!!!
This drama is generally cute college drama, but ... with some twists... i wonder what this drama is really trying to accomplish... It is using some unexpected twists to shock the audience...
For the first time ever, the typical asian drama plot is reversed - now the man is all heart no brains, and the woman is smart and frozen cold rather cruel. The exact opposite of a typical kdrama, which creates 100% of th plot by having FL do stupid stuff and ML save her.
I am also glad we get to see real women. Not some skinny chicks in mini skirts, like Jenny. Korean actors and actresses seems like are forced to be super thin and that is horrifying. That was fashionable in the West in 1960s... Now, what is fashionable is MUSCLES. And that is a lot healthier too.
I like that this kdrama addresses the topic of "good looking men" and how the looks are passing and not everything, and how many good looking become addicted to attention, fall and become entitled ppl, players, etc... That is a cool attempt to introduce certain equality between genders and to educate youngsters about years ahead and what really matters.
Also, FL is a comp sci major - how great. I am so glad someone is promoting engineering and comp sci, smart women, female engineers, etc. That is so cool.
This show also promotes LGBT.... which is promoted a lot lately, generally, there are so many gay romance kdramas now.... so ok, young people probably need to figure things out these days as the global overpopulation and no need for kids makes LGBT acceptable and actually ... desirable... :) but also clashes with the S Korea being the lowest with birth rate and Korean government and kdramas promoting having babies...
Then we have statements about no environmentally friendly golf courses and hotels... not using plastic straws and bottles... recycling.... Nature... Sure, I am on that... but.... while ML is figuring that out, ML is wearing a necklace with a catholic cross... and a tank top with the Jesus crown of thorns.. Heck what was THAT??? So many gays in catholic church killing two birds with one stone...? Then we have party crowd going in cars to some hotel in Nature... ????
Surprisingly LGBT community, at last in the USA, is actually rather wealthy and SUPER CONSERVATIVE and would NOT support green, organic, natural, saving environment, no golf courses and hotels.... They mostly vote Republican... and have taken over the entertainment, fashion, and many other areas of business and wealth and influence...
Then, what is the purpose of that sex toy at the end. It was rather ... cheap humor. I was wondering why that was introduced? Why does th audience need to see that? To shock or tickle the audience? Really? To make this drama so americanized, to have it based on shocking the audience with cheap trashy sexualization? Heck no. I dont watch anything western because of such lack of content and covering up the brainless trashiness by cheap tricks.
If this moment was going to be used to discuss the prevalent use of pornography in the last generations in the West - and perhaps that is a good thing against overpopulation? LOL but it is a bad thing for egotism..... - well those scenes did not have to last like ... 20 mins total? Why make such a big fuss about it?
Also, I am very suspicious at this point... it seems as yet another attempt to americanize the Koreans and to cater to american audience and make them watch this and pay $$$$$ for th drama. Exactly the holywood/disney trick - put as much sex and violence and wild car chases as you can, the most lewd and explicit kind, and it will definitely make the movie/series very popular... HECK NO... I am quitting if kdramas become westernized. There is absolutely nothing worth watching in the west, and if Kdramas lose their creative CONTENT then bye bye kdramas too.
So I am not sure where this is going - is it saying - we are hip? is it saying - hey this is fun look at me? is it saying - we are sooo totally westernized, watch us, we are the same?
I dont know. But what I do know is that there is no reason to ruin a perfectly fun great drama with TRASH. No you are not cool when you show sex toys and sex in a drama. It is not cool. It is just trashy westernization.
The ONLY advantage that a kdrama has over a western piece is that a kdrama is creative, based on unique story and characters, has CONTENT, has CHARACTER GROWTH, solves problems in meaningful and warm ways, and promotes sane healthy living lifestyle. So if a kdrama throws that out, ... there is no reason to watch it :) it becomes the same old western trash.
Kdramas now show ppl drinking whiskey, sleeping in beds, eating bread and pasta, drinking coffee, taking LOTS o sleeping pills, there are Catholic churches and crosses everywhere, like in every single drama... I dont get to see Buddhist scenes in the dramas anymore!!!!
So what is going on here, really.... ???
I will probably finish watching this on some cold rainy day like today and fast forward through all scenes without the content.
One more comment: I liked those Pilates machines and ML seems to have strong legs, so how come his shoulders and arms are so skinny?
I suspect that ML actor is some kind of fun loving party dude in real life, he is so enthusiastic and natural in those scenes, and very contrived fake in scenes where he is dumb and bland..... I wonder why he took this role.
ys it is amazing LOL I was thinking, he LOOKS like her.... he says exactly what she would say... and how she would say it...
And she got his little neck bob with the stiff neck and how he talks without emotion and sternly and logically... and his side glances when he is quiet.. twisting his neck forward LOL this is the body language of ML actor :) and the tone of voice... and showing off.... of this role... she is truly looking like a stiffled snoty royal male LOL I saw him first in Potato Lab, where he had EXACTLY a role like this too
He won for this show? Wow. 👏👏👏👏. He deserves it. Seon Jae is really a joy to watch🤣🤣🤣. It's…
Ok it is the post from @SlRLii: "IDK what they call it but K-entertainment industry give the K-academie award to bad ass villain Oh Chang Seok /Kim Seon Jae" I thought IDK is "i dont know" but maybe IDK is some kdrama award name? MAYBE I TOTALLY MISUNDERSTOOD THE POST, maybe SlRLii was just joking.
However, the SJ actor did get an award in 2013 for his role in Princess Aurora... He is best known for his leading role in the 2013 television series "Princess Aurora". He first debuted in the movie "May 18". Chang Seok won the MBC Drama Awards for Best New Actor for his role in "Princess Aurora". In addition, Chang Seok participated in a reality show “I live alone”.
Wait - is IDK "i dont know" or are you saying that is the name of some organization that gives kdramas?
DID YOU MAKE UP THE FACT THAT HE GOT AN AWARD?
The actor actually DID get an award for his 2013 role in another drama... He is best known for his leading role in the 2013 television series "Princess Aurora". He first debuted in the movie "May 18". Chang Seok won the MBC Drama Awards for Best New Actor for his role in "Princess Aurora". In addition, Chang Seok participated in a reality show “I live alone”.
YES they ARE!!!! omg! I am totally thrilled!!!! this is worth rewatching just to study all the details! it is IMPRESSIVE!!!!! and super fun LMAO this is totally hilarious...
He won for this show? Wow. 👏👏👏👏. He deserves it. Seon Jae is really a joy to watch🤣🤣🤣. It's…
Someone else posted about it and yes it is for this role :) I just checked, he got an award for his 2013 role. If he just got something, it will be posted later.
SJ is annoying and that is testimony to good acting and script LOL I think in the beginning he seemed dangerous... but then... all his plans always failed... and he never had any luck chasing GC...... so I guess we learned to see him as a comedically pitiful annoying character? Like a cartoon character almost... So twisty....
Also, he carried most of the plot and acting... and the actor is really good at it.... He was ALIVE and having fun acting it...
Oooh ep 5 body swap is sooo good!!!! FL and ML actors are totally mimicking each other's body language and demeanor, behavior, way of speech, walking, ... everything.... !!!! Such great copies of each other!!!! Those are some acting skillZ!!!! FL ... she got the body language of ML totally perfectly LOL His stiff neck and gait... And ML got the female cutesy and overthetop expressions and the way of speaking exactly like FL had...
Wow they observed the most minute details of each other looks and behaviors and were able to totally copy it!!! IMPRESSIVE!!!!! sooo fun!!!!! this is improv comedy at its best...
It is hilarious and very very very masterful creative acting. It is so fun to watch!!!!
Oh I think I have to edit this post bc I misunderstood. Someone was joking and I thought SJ actor got an award... In fact, he DID get an award in 2013, "He is best known for his leading role in the 2013 television series "Princess Aurora". He first debuted in the movie "May 18". Chang Seok won the MBC Drama Awards for Best New Actor for his role in "Princess Aurora". In addition, Chang Seok participated in a reality show “I live alone”. "
So... it is true what I wrote LOL he did get an award, officially :) Omg I learned today that SJ actor got the K-academie award!!!! I am impressed with my ability to identify good actors :) SJ has carried this entire drama. He is most active, complex, fun character and the actor is totally into it for real.
Yeah as someone mentioned, so many small details that make him fun to watch, like his waving to Lucia, etc. He is comical, unpredictable, annoying, pitifully pathetic hounddog, and totally convincing in his role... and gets to stay slim after walking miles through Mingang hallways every day LOL A real hunting dog.... and such an unfortunate lover LOL
I enjoyed watching TK as eye candy, plus always perfectly nicely dressed, but I can watch him just for a few seconds, it gets boring bc he is sooo flat... So I learned to enjoy watching villain SJ bc too is a rather handsome man AND he is so active and so sparky and spunky, has very clear sparkley eyes full of action, says things that are totaly off the cuff, does things totally of the cuff, there IS stuff to watch... and at least I can watch his gruesomely tacky fashion, the colors he puts together are ... omg... for fashion police, very often... Like... brown suit with orange/yellow tie... gag... throwing up....
SJ is alive and active thats why he is fun to watch
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I saw the bird in ep 6.... The shadow of that bird moving showed in Left Minister feeding it a snake scene and later when they imprisoned Dal I ... wow. Huge bird with huge beak that looks like pterodactyl LOL
That U Hui actress is really terrible, not one emotion on her face. That is impossible that her prince fell in love with THAT. And after all her psycho confessions for clinging to him forever... how did he feel when he finally realized she was a monster the entire time... ?
Let Minister acting is also ... too ... simple. Reminds me of the villain in Ms. Incognito. There is nothing that moves on that face except lips talking. He is .. BORING. Even as a serial killers, both father and daughter are BORING amd actors are ... bad :)
But it does not matter anymore. @LMorgan0220 managed to post it into Discussions :) The link from that post works :) THANK YOU!!!
For the first time ever, the typical asian drama plot is reversed - now the man is all heart no brains, and the woman is smart and frozen cold rather cruel. The exact opposite of a typical kdrama, which creates 100% of th plot by having FL do stupid stuff and ML save her.
I am also glad we get to see real women. Not some skinny chicks in mini skirts, like Jenny. Korean actors and actresses seems like are forced to be super thin and that is horrifying. That was fashionable in the West in 1960s... Now, what is fashionable is MUSCLES. And that is a lot healthier too.
I like that this kdrama addresses the topic of "good looking men" and how the looks are passing and not everything, and how many good looking become addicted to attention, fall and become entitled ppl, players, etc... That is a cool attempt to introduce certain equality between genders and to educate youngsters about years ahead and what really matters.
Also, FL is a comp sci major - how great. I am so glad someone is promoting engineering and comp sci, smart women, female engineers, etc. That is so cool.
This show also promotes LGBT.... which is promoted a lot lately, generally, there are so many gay romance kdramas now.... so ok, young people probably need to figure things out these days as the global overpopulation and no need for kids makes LGBT acceptable and actually ... desirable... :) but also clashes with the S Korea being the lowest with birth rate and Korean government and kdramas promoting having babies...
Then we have statements about no environmentally friendly golf courses and hotels... not using plastic straws and bottles... recycling.... Nature... Sure, I am on that...
but.... while ML is figuring that out, ML is wearing a necklace with a catholic cross... and a tank top with the Jesus crown of thorns.. Heck what was THAT??? So many gays in catholic church killing two birds with one stone...?
Then we have party crowd going in cars to some hotel in Nature... ????
Surprisingly LGBT community, at last in the USA, is actually rather wealthy and SUPER CONSERVATIVE and would NOT support green, organic, natural, saving environment, no golf courses and hotels.... They mostly vote Republican... and have taken over the entertainment, fashion, and many other areas of business and wealth and influence...
Then, what is the purpose of that sex toy at the end. It was rather ... cheap humor. I was wondering why that was introduced? Why does th audience need to see that? To shock or tickle the audience? Really? To make this drama so americanized, to have it based on shocking the audience with cheap trashy sexualization? Heck no. I dont watch anything western because of such lack of content and covering up the brainless trashiness by cheap tricks.
If this moment was going to be used to discuss the prevalent use of pornography in the last generations in the West - and perhaps that is a good thing against overpopulation? LOL but it is a bad thing for egotism..... - well those scenes did not have to last like ... 20 mins total? Why make such a big fuss about it?
Also, I am very suspicious at this point... it seems as yet another attempt to americanize the Koreans and to cater to american audience and make them watch this and pay $$$$$ for th drama. Exactly the holywood/disney trick - put as much sex and violence and wild car chases as you can, the most lewd and explicit kind, and it will definitely make the movie/series very popular... HECK NO... I am quitting if kdramas become westernized. There is absolutely nothing worth watching in the west, and if Kdramas lose their creative CONTENT then bye bye kdramas too.
So I am not sure where this is going - is it saying - we are hip? is it saying - hey this is fun look at me? is it saying - we are sooo totally westernized, watch us, we are the same?
I dont know. But what I do know is that there is no reason to ruin a perfectly fun great drama with TRASH. No you are not cool when you show sex toys and sex in a drama. It is not cool. It is just trashy westernization.
The ONLY advantage that a kdrama has over a western piece is that a kdrama is creative, based on unique story and characters, has CONTENT, has CHARACTER GROWTH, solves problems in meaningful and warm ways, and promotes sane healthy living lifestyle.
So if a kdrama throws that out, ... there is no reason to watch it :) it becomes the same old western trash.
Kdramas now show ppl drinking whiskey, sleeping in beds, eating bread and pasta, drinking coffee, taking LOTS o sleeping pills, there are Catholic churches and crosses everywhere, like in every single drama... I dont get to see Buddhist scenes in the dramas anymore!!!!
So what is going on here, really.... ???
I will probably finish watching this on some cold rainy day like today and fast forward through all scenes without the content.
One more comment: I liked those Pilates machines and ML seems to have strong legs, so how come his shoulders and arms are so skinny?
I suspect that ML actor is some kind of fun loving party dude in real life, he is so enthusiastic and natural in those scenes, and very contrived fake in scenes where he is dumb and bland..... I wonder why he took this role.
And she got his little neck bob with the stiff neck and how he talks without emotion and sternly and logically... and his side glances when he is quiet.. twisting his neck forward LOL this is the body language of ML actor :) and the tone of voice... and showing off.... of this role... she is truly looking like a stiffled snoty royal male LOL I saw him first in Potato Lab, where he had EXACTLY a role like this too
MAYBE I TOTALLY MISUNDERSTOOD THE POST, maybe SlRLii was just joking.
However, the SJ actor did get an award in 2013 for his role in Princess Aurora...
He is best known for his leading role in the 2013 television series "Princess Aurora". He first debuted in the movie "May 18". Chang Seok won the MBC Drama Awards for Best New Actor for his role in "Princess Aurora". In addition, Chang Seok participated in a reality show “I live alone”.
DID YOU MAKE UP THE FACT THAT HE GOT AN AWARD?
The actor actually DID get an award for his 2013 role in another drama...
He is best known for his leading role in the 2013 television series "Princess Aurora". He first debuted in the movie "May 18". Chang Seok won the MBC Drama Awards for Best New Actor for his role in "Princess Aurora". In addition, Chang Seok participated in a reality show “I live alone”.
SJ is annoying and that is testimony to good acting and script LOL
I think in the beginning he seemed dangerous... but then... all his plans always failed... and he never had any luck chasing GC...... so I guess we learned to see him as a comedically pitiful annoying character? Like a cartoon character almost... So twisty....
Also, he carried most of the plot and acting... and the actor is really good at it.... He was ALIVE and having fun acting it...
Wow they observed the most minute details of each other looks and behaviors and were able to totally copy it!!! IMPRESSIVE!!!!! sooo fun!!!!! this is improv comedy at its best...
It is hilarious and very very very masterful creative acting. It is so fun to watch!!!!
Girls are known too.. bc they go to meet other women and there are zillion maids... and they all gossip like crazy...
In fact, he DID get an award in 2013, "He is best known for his leading role in the 2013 television series "Princess Aurora". He first debuted in the movie "May 18". Chang Seok won the MBC Drama Awards for Best New Actor for his role in "Princess Aurora". In addition, Chang Seok participated in a reality show “I live alone”. "
So... it is true what I wrote LOL he did get an award, officially :)
Omg I learned today that SJ actor got the K-academie award!!!! I am impressed with my ability to identify good actors :) SJ has carried this entire drama. He is most active, complex, fun character and the actor is totally into it for real.
Yeah as someone mentioned, so many small details that make him fun to watch, like his waving to Lucia, etc. He is comical, unpredictable, annoying, pitifully pathetic hounddog, and totally convincing in his role... and gets to stay slim after walking miles through Mingang hallways every day LOL A real hunting dog.... and such an unfortunate lover LOL
I enjoyed watching TK as eye candy, plus always perfectly nicely dressed, but I can watch him just for a few seconds, it gets boring bc he is sooo flat... So I learned to enjoy watching villain SJ bc too is a rather handsome man AND he is so active and so sparky and spunky, has very clear sparkley eyes full of action, says things that are totaly off the cuff, does things totally of the cuff, there IS stuff to watch... and at least I can watch his gruesomely tacky fashion, the colors he puts together are ... omg... for fashion police, very often... Like... brown suit with orange/yellow tie... gag... throwing up....
SJ is alive and active thats why he is fun to watch
When there is some smoke there must be some fire so clearly these slappings have some roots somewhere...