InspectorMegre

yeah the Hallway Walker Lawyer is the smartest :) Stella might stab GC too... bc the goal is to help SeRi.... and Stella does not trust GC.. so Stella might grab the company for herself to give SeRi... ? Imo Stella is not faking it, she really dumped Lucia...
I am not sure why DMS is out, is the actor too expensive for this drama or busy with something else... ? But he had to be out for all this trash to show their true colors... :) and when he comes back... if GC gets shares from Stella and OldestBrother, ... DMS will be ousted from his company LOL

ooough.... what a mess! what a plot LOL DMS might have to back off from his own company... wow

Can you post how much each person has?

Bc ... I doubt that Stella will give her share to GC :) Stella's goal is to give company to SeRi, ie. GC is just a pawn... So... Stella will probably want for HERSELF to be the CEO and then give it to SeRi....

I want this seen. The question is - do you like this FL or not? Some ppl do and some not. I happen to think she is the same stupid kind as usual, I do NOT like her, I think I am seeing the worst of her now, and I am waiting to see her change and grow. Since this is ep 29, I hope her change starts soon.

So let us see what kind of FL we think is fun to watch.

The typical kdrama FL is an insufferable naive loser crybaby doormat pushover naive, and we all agree, we do NOT want to watch that. It is blatant sexism.

Imo this FL is not it either. She is the same dumb insecure immature rash loser kind, shoots before asking questions. She is a moron, just in a different flavor than usual: she is not a nice person, she is a bully.

This drama does not **have** to be "the" right FL.... The long standing sexism issue and totally incompetent FLs cannot be solved overnight..... I think there will be a lot of experimentation before we find that line.

IMO OUR GOLDEN DAYS drama IS THE RIGHT BALANCE AND A WONDERFUL FL... she is flawed and makes mistakes but is a good person and she then fixes her mistakes. I love that FL. I think that is the way to go. So many people hate that FL *bc* she speaks her mind and is determined person. I find the audience sexist...

But I think Our Golden Days is a great FL. She self reflects, she self corrects, she struggles with her feelings, she speaks her mind. I think she is a great "ordinary woman" who is properly taking care of her life and learning and growing.

There are others with wonderful very nice FLs who are competent - even old dramas have them! like Knight's Flower or lost sister in Once Again.... I love those characters

and the new dramas like Love Scout, Haunted Palace, My Dearest Nemesis, Divorce Insurance, First Night with the Duke, Troublesome Star, To the Moon, etc etc etc etc etc all have wonderful female leads who are basically good people and who made severe mistakes and/or were victims of circumstances, and then fixed it.

The scary part about S Korea is that there are YOUNG males who are openly aggressive against independent women... https://www.humanrightsresearch.org/post/south-korea-s-hurdles-with-gender-equality
In the USA, young males are passive aggressive and simply do not marry, do not date one person, and expect a personal servant Barbie Doll with makeup and pushup bra, rather dumb and ready to copulate and please at all times

it is going to take a while for S Korea to fix its sexist stereotypes in the dramas, but it is happening. Unlike the USA where it is NOT happening. So that is why I watch here, not there.

Even a 100-ep daily like Queen's House turned the stupidly naive oblivious "lost in outer space" FL after like 30 ep into a competent human being and then an international star professionally

I got tired of being accused that not liking this FL is a sign that there are no other FLs that are likeable. There are plenty....

I dislike this FL because she is currently bullying her bio mother, enjoying torturing her bio mother and is full of blind hate towards her bio mother.
SO YES FL IS A BULLY
She hates and shoots before she finds out what is going on. EVERYTHING IS ABOUT HER. I think her character *** sucks *** she is 100% unwilling to self reflect and self-correct, she is just too busy elbowing her way to the top and harming ppl in the process, and she is TOO DUMB to do it right....
FL thinks it is ok for her to abandon her life and marry into a rich family, but it is not ok for her mother to do so.. her mother did NOT abandon her. She tried to bring JW into her new marriage and JW never put any effort to find the truth. So... Hey, kiddo FL... grow up!!!! There is this word called TRYING TO BE OBJECTIVE

and I think this drama better be about FL improving herself

It is only ep 29 out of 100 so there is plenty of time to improve herself. SO far we saw her worst, I hope, and I hope she starts going upward from here

your thinking is too black and white and lacks nuance. The typical kdrama FL is insufferable naive loser crybaby and we all agree, we do NOT want to watch that.

Imo this FL is not it either. She is the same dumb insecure immature rash loser kind, just in a different flavor. She is not a nice person, she is a bully.

WHY does this drama **have** to be "the" right FL??? Do you expect that the long standing sexism issue and totally incompetent FLs can be solved overnight? I think there will be a lot of experimentation before we find that line.

IMO OUR GOLDEN DAYS drama IS THE RIGHT BALANCE AND A WONDERFUL FL... she is flawed and makes mistakes but is a good person and she then fixes her mistakes. I love that FL. I think that is the way to go.

So before you open your mouth and start spewing false accusations, think first what you are saying. For your record, I think Our Golden Days is a great FL.

There are others with wonderful very nice FLs who are competent - even old dramas have them! like Knight's Flower or lost sister in Once Again.... I love those characters

and the new dramas like Love Scout, Haunted Palace, My Dearest Nemesis, Divorce Insurance, First Night with the Duke, Troublesome Star, etc etc etc etc etc all have wonderful female leads who are basically good people and who made severe mistakes and/or were victim of circumstances, and then fixed it.

Even a 100-ep daily like Queen's House turned the FL after like 30 ep into a competent human being and then an international star professionally

So stop claiming that not liking this FL is a sign that there are no other FLs that are likeable

I dislike this FL because she is a bully. She hates and shoots before she finds out what is going on. EVERYTHING IS ABOUT HER. I think her character *** sucks ***

and I think the drama better be about her improving herself

It is only ep 29 out of 100 so there is plenty of time to improve herself. SO far we saw her worst, I hope, and I hope she starts going upward from here

SO STOP IT ALREADY

I wonder why HR stayed with that CEO..... Is it for his riches? Is it bc he would kill her if she deflects? He is most likely behind WTOD and seems like he keeps monitoring and controlling her so she might be "a jailbird" really...

FL is dumb. Her strategy is just sheer lying to get her "to the top" and eliminating everyone in her way.... She is too insecure... too immature... and yeah why start from bottom? is a good question - is it to prove herself? or a strategy to torture HR?

It definitely is, you nailed it.... FL is a selfish moron. FL thinks it is ok for FL to marry into rich family, but is not ok for her mother to marry into rich family..... Bc her mom left her behind.
Well, FL left her father and stepmom behind.... and her mother did NOT intentionally abandon her.
FL lacks self accountability and self reflection. She is super immature

I agree with much of what you are saying. Indeed JW/SA was a victim as a child, YC is a jerk, a killer, a child of a killer, and deserves even more punishment, and This whole situation could be fixed with an honest conversation.

Did HR "abandon" the framed hubby in jail when she decided to marry the CEO? That is debatable.... She was thinking about it even before he was framed. When the CEO asked her to leave her husband, it was clear HR was not in love with her husband, she wasnt a woman who passionately said "oh no I love my husband".... She was thinking of leaving him.... She *was* ready to leave him anyways. And we saw WHY - he is such a red neck and a very difficult stupid aggressive rather ignorant selfish patriarchal dinosaur without any manners whatsoever, anyone but a total moron WOULD leave him..... His only plus is his loyalty and dedication and a desperate woman might keep him.... After lots of thinking, before he was framed, HR decided to stay with him.
Then he got framed and she changed her mind and decided to marry the CEO. That's ok imo, she is just someone who wanted to divorce a man she wasnt really in love with and she found another one. OK so be it...

HR did NOT abandon SA. HR just drove away to talk with the CEO and convince him to take in SA. I am not sure why she said she will be absent for 3 nights? Did she think this negotiation would take that long? Or she wanted some fun? So then she got hit by WTOD and was in hospital in critical condition for 6 months.... and after that, she DID try to find her daughter. But couldn;t. Her jailed husband refused to tell her, the CEO said he couldnt find them (hello, that is a big fat lie, with all his money he COULD find them!!!)

Seemingly sweet but really evil CEO is behind all this...

Yes the question is, WILL JW realize she made a mistake about her mother? and herself... Since she, JW, decided to marry into rich to make up for what she lost. WHY IS IT OK FOR JW TO DO THAT AND IT IS NOT OK FOR HER MOTHER TO DO THAT??? WHY JW WANTS TO PUNISH THE MOTHER FOR EXACTLY THE SAME THING JW IS DOING???

The question is, why is JW just blindly trusting what her father said, instead of asking questions and investigating herself? Why she hates instantly without finding the facts first?
The main question is, why is JW harming someone before she confirmed the facts?

the key point here is, JW IS SUPER CHILDISH, IMMATURE, INSECURE, SELFISH AND EGOISTICAL, WITHOUT ANY WILLINGNESS TO SELF REFLECT, NO WILLINGNESS FOR CRITICAL THINKING

So to repeat - there is absolutely NO difference between this FL character and the typical kdrama clutz loser FL character. They are the same clutz loser impulsive insecure dumbo. This FL is just not nice about it.
i really dislike the petty cunning ways that JW uses to torture HR without even finding out first what happened. JW is a BULLY, an evil person, a villain.

The question is, how will this FL resolve it. Bc she is an educated, professional woman with some brains. Enough to figure this out - if she wants to. That part will make or break this drama and is THE chance for this drama to be different than the typical "saving the damsel in distress" plot

I think the tell tale sign of Stella's evilness is dumping Lucia with utmost arrogance and lies - not even saying WHY bc it would take a whole day to explain... !!! what a fat lie... ! - and saying everything they did so far made her blood boil. IF Lucia is any smart, she would just cross out Stella forever, no illusions about her.

Stella is THE SAME as KC and DMS and such, except that she doesnt kill or kidnap people. But the rest is the same, THE THINKING IS THE SAME, "if I want something for me, I can do whatever I want"

Thank you!

what is ffs?

I posted my research seems like you didnt see it - different sites have different subs for the very end of ep 98. Some say Stella opened the envelope with DO and some with DO NOT dna test. So ... seems like wrong translation in subs... ?

Ditto to @aerum07. Stella was never smart and their team only survived by luck.
And Stella was always super egoistical and irrational - like, rejecting SeRi's identity earlier just bc she decided it was impossible.
Also, we knew Stella was using Lucia as a pawn and egged Lucia into self destruction - for Stella's purposes..... Stella is an evil person

But that WAS the story all along.... Stella was just using Lucia as a pawn. That wasnt clear to you before... ?

Well you got to see the dumbo oldest sun and his wife in their true colors.... kissing up to Lucia and then flipping again to kiss up to GC ... lol You got to see Concubine Sister show her true colors - she is calculating but smart and has SOME integrity.... You got to see Lucia back up from SeRi and Stella calling the shots.... and yeah the whole breakup between Lucia and Stella, showing how DUMB Lucia is and how immature and helpless and inadequate she is for her role, and how cruel greedy evil Stella is :) So yeah it was a very eventful episode in some ways....

Well said. And yeah, Stella is now the driving force with most stock... UNTIL Chairman wakes up? Is he still the biggest shareholder?

Yes indeed!
Stella used Lucia as a pawn and then threw her out. The only thing that matters is what is Stella's....
I was flabbergasted with hypocritical excuses that Stella offered to justify old Se Ri and accuse Mi So, and throw out all the plots against Mingang... Stella is ... a ... major villain.

You know, we are saying this FL is different than the usual, but she is not... She is rash, irrational, damsel in distress, creating problems and getting into some super dooodooo bc she is INCOMPETENT, she shoots first and then asks questions later, she cannot communicate... and she is dumb.
She is different than typical bc she is a villain and is doing all that to HURT someone. I dislike her :)

I like that HR is smart and alert :) and hopefully will figure out the imposter.
HR tried finding her family and WTOD is not her fault. Seems like HR is literally being held a captive slave by the CEO. That WTOD was sent by him? to make sure she complies... and he keeps monitoring her.. She really is enslaved and would meet WTOD if she tries to escape??? how much is her slavery and how much is her willingness to stay there? I am curious to find out.

And FL is a moron, to lose a chance for healing. she wants to kill her mother without having facts first.... As an adult, she cannot be trusting her father just like that....

FL is a loser like her father LOL and will NEVER be able to get out of poverty and loser life bc she **** IS **** a loser, she is incapable and unwilling to think like a truly great person.

I guess she will be very disappointed to "fly to the top" and discover it is nothing there BECAUSE SHE CANNOT FLY, she is just a small stupid loser person like her father.

That's when Ha Neul will have to save her LOL but first she will have to ... be in prison for a whole, or doing volunteer work in a war zone in Africa, or something like that, to atone for her sins here... Her main sin is that she is WILLING to do evil things to get her way BECAUSE SHE FEELS SELF PITY AND FEELS LIKE BEING VICTIM JUSTIFIES BECOMING EVIL JUST LIKE HER ABUSERS.

That is NOT the way to solve it :) that is a sure way to get in real trouble

I totally missed that part when NS's guard decided to backstab her - what episode was it when it was explained why he did it? What exactly happened? And why she didnt just throw him out for that... ??

Bio mom decided to stay with the dad. But on that day or next one, the police came to take the dad away.
So I am not sure how long after that, but bio mom decided to marry the Sweet Evil CEO and she left SunA with MJ and her daughter and drove away to visit the CEO and ask him to bring SuA with her to the marriage. ON HER WAY THERE, she was hit by WTOD and was in hospital for 6 months. The CEO lied to her he could not find the family anymore.

How long was KB in prison? For years. Meanwhile, MJ must have been raising the two girls. How did MJ disappear, where did she go?

So there is that whole period between 6 months when HR got out of the hospital to the day when KB got out of prison. We know NOTHING about that period.
Except that HR was already in the golden cage of the CEO and that he kept lying he looked for MJ and the kids and not finding him

We do not know how and when MJ's daugher JW died. It seems like it happened when KB was already out of prison? Or earlier?

We do not know exactly when HR visited KB in prison. It was definitely after she got out of hospital. So it was at least 6 months after she left SunA. It was probably as soon as she got out of hospital