She got skillZ......only a fantastic actress is able to bring to life an entirely different character. She is…
you are putting her down :) by defending your pride and insisting on her plastic LOL If you want to redeem yourself, start heavily praising her great acting :)
And you insist on bad stuff that happens when women try to escape patriarchy LOL Korea is not Saudi Arabia :)…
yeah I am not watching that :) I see it every day so spending time in ront o the boobtube AGAIN watching it - is just say no :) Oh every group in the usa is below replacement? I have to research that. Thanks for the pointer. Regardless of low birth rates for everyone.... for sure by 2045 white will be minority, and young white is already minority today.
By 2045 25% of the world will be Africans.... that is scary, they are totally incompetent in running anything and 10000% steeped in corruption. But better than anyone in music and dance :) How will the world be different when they become the prominent kind...??
I vote that some Buddhist-like culture become the prominent kind, that is the only way to save us all....
And you insist on bad stuff that happens when women try to escape patriarchy LOL Korea is not Saudi Arabia :)…
Good for you. It probably hurt esp if they were "loving" and "safe" in other ways, .... but ... it is worth it :) necessary to drop them for the sake of gaining yourself :) See the poem JOURNEY below...... and find real "family" for yourself, ppl who think like you and will genuinely care for you. And ... with some luck and hard work, your family or friends *might* come around :) Esp if you become rich and famous :) LOL
I am not sure if you experienced racism in the USA, it is really big on that...
THERE IS THAT SONG BY MARY OLIVER - THE JOURNEY The Journey One day you finally knew what you had to do, and began, though the voices around you kept shouting their bad advice— though the whole house began to tremble and you felt the old tug at your ankles. "Mend my life!" each voice cried. But you didn't stop. You knew what you had to do, though the wind pried with its stiff fingers at the very foundations, though their melancholy was terrible. It was already late enough, and a wild night, and the road full of fallen branches and stones. But little by little, as you left their voices behind, the stars began to burn through the sheets of clouds, and there was a new voice which you slowly recognized as your own, that kept you company as you strode deeper and deeper into the world, determined to do the only thing you could do— determined to save the only life you could save.
And you insist on bad stuff that happens when women try to escape patriarchy LOL Korea is not Saudi Arabia :)…
See my post about year 2045 census stats, google " white as minority in the USA" .... that's why abortions are prevented...*** white *** is forced to reproduce. TODAY, young whites are already a minority...
Women are facing terrible things EVERYWHERE bc it is pure economics - if half of Earth population (i.e. women) are kept under, that means that 50% of Earth population (i.e. men) can control 100% of Earth resources. It is as simple as that.
Keeping women down is exploitative slavery that lasted thousands of years on Earth and allows men to live plush lives.
From that comes female cuningness - since a woman is tied to a guy who "owns her" - her father or husband - and can only gain power or resources or her safety through some male - her husband, father, or son - she has to MANIPULATE MEN to get something for herself.
So men learned to be super afraid and distrustful of women. And women learned to fight other women in that rat race to put "their" man on top or to grab "the man" for themselves
And women learned to be cuning, manipulative, camouflaged, to fake "niceness", to pretend to be dumb, etc etc etc etc
Very ugly
Esp since being female does not mean you are enlightened LOL Many women are as bad ignoramuses and cruel greedy dumb ignorant just like the men who use women And there are very smart men too and they too are the "enemies" of the ruling brutes
It is ultimately the battle between good and evil And a woman has the advantage of being more intuitive and perhaps more AWARE and more questioning of what is going on since she is the abused party
She got skillZ......only a fantastic actress is able to bring to life an entirely different character. She is…
Hm are you retarded? There is what is said and what is not said LOL If you focus on her badness, then you are throwing her goodness away and essentially PUTTING HER DOWN. So lets take your case. Let's say you are a great person and ah so nice and ah so great and successful etc etc etc AND THEN SOMEONE TALKS ONLY ABOUT YOUR BAD HAIR DAY AND 10000 PEOPLE DISCUSS YOUR BAD HAIR DAY ONLY :) Let me know you gonna feel :)
I you ar going to talk about a bad hair day, you better do it nicely and gently and quickly and spend 100000 other hours praising what is good.... is my social advice to you about resepct and care of others :) I think it will help you a lot to become more socially acceptable and successful :) and overall a nicer person :)
So to cut it short, If this poster wanted to comment on her plastic, he/she should have said - wow what a great actress and even she I think had the nose job done - she was always beautiful and didnt need anything ... she is such a great actress .. .... etc etc etc something like that....
And you insist on bad stuff that happens when women try to escape patriarchy LOL Korea is not Saudi Arabia :)…
Until women treat THEMSELVES as human beings, it is not going to turn around :) One obstacle there is self image bc "being nice" means being a doormat and women desperately want to be seen as "nice" and another obstacle is women tripping other women.... Kdrama Knights FLower imo is the best commentary on that... Women are trained to fight other women so that they can grab ONE GUY who will be their sugar daddy and the "front to the world" So women have no issues grabbing someone else's man, tripping other women at work, holding other women to unreasonable standards, etc. DISGUSTING
And you insist on bad stuff that happens when women try to escape patriarchy LOL Korea is not Saudi Arabia :)…
By year 2045, white population will be minority in the USA, already young white ppl are a minority, so that is why the white supremacists are desperately trying to increase numbers of WHITE babies.
Just google "white as minority in the USA" and you will get all kinds of links from Census Buerau and many newspapers and privates...
In the USA it is white women who abort... Brown women do not abort, they give birth :) RIGHT NOW, WHITE YOUNG PPL ARE A MINORITY. White means "non-hispanic white" :) There was 75% white in the USA...
So.... DO NOT FEEL SELF PITY, THERE ARE LOTS OF WORSE SITUATIONS THAN S KOREA LOL IN RUSSIA, THE MAIN CONTRACEPTIVE METHOD IS ABORTION. IN ARAB WORLD, YOU GET KILLED BY YOUR FAMILY. etc
STOP FEELING SELF PITY, IT IS NOT EASY ANYWHERE YET WOMEN HAVE TO CHANGE THE SITUATION
IT jobs are a great way to make a very good living and be independent and valued... And it is easy to get an IT degree, e.g in databases... Women are more likely to provide a good customer support and get along with coworkers... and lead a team...
BUT the price is entering a field that is traditionally "male" and women run away, stupidly thinking that being in a computer field will make them lose boyfriends... Heck, you get boyfriends if you join IT!!! LOL
Women also CAN enter relatively low-physical "smart" jobs like being an electrician....
And woman can run small businesses, like real estate agents, etc. With the older population these days, there are tons of jobs in elderly care....
There are LOTS of opportunities for women who are not afraid....
Moving to a big city, immigration, changing jobs, joining organizations, having friends and networks is the way to go. Smart / greedy men understand the value of woman as someone who brings money, so they will support a capable woman.
A smart woman has to get educated about how to negotiate about pay, etc and there are programs for that and also ... good old youtube self help videos LOL
e.g. In the USA, most team leaders in IT are women, bc they get the team together and work done... bc women communicate, accomodate others, care, solve problems, keep relationships, and get the work done and keep ppl happy - and so ... you can be earning huge $$$$ leading a team of computer nerds...
IT jobs
So, a smart woman CAN escape it IF she is willing to step out of the box and the safety of her own family and friends, ie OUT OF THE GOLD CAGE, OUT OF THE SHADE OF THE FAMILY TREE
and that .. is the same journey for anyone, male or female.
Many men are losers bc they too lack education and support....
Life is not easy, it is a grind... says To the Moon drama :) and it is true, male or female .... and more so if female :) .
And you insist on bad stuff that happens when women try to escape patriarchy LOL Korea is not Saudi Arabia :)…
Oh I want this visible - propagating societal sexism ie brainwashing ppl and catering to the current social prejudices is why typical kdrama / asian drama has a very dumb FL who is rash irrational clutzy poor AND ALSO VERY NICE AND DOORMATY ...... LIKE MS. KIM...... and has to be saved by a man. Name me kdrama that does not have a FL like that.
Too many kdramas are entirely based on the plot of naive stupid clutzy loser FL and all the stupidities she does and the great man who KEEPS saving her..... . IT IS CLEAR THAT IS HOW KOREA / ASIA SEES WOMEN and so I protest that :) As an international audience, I have a say too :) The international audience is also used portraying women as losers. ... it is a global thing. Sexism is global. Women have been treated like slaves for how many thousands of years now... ? so that men can have access to ALL resources and power. In the USA, sexism is very vile bc it is hidden - a woman seemingly looks empowered and equal bc she sleeps around and does seemingly whatever she wants - but she has to be just like a Barbie Doll and live a dumb life with makeup and push up bra and spend 3 hours per day preening herself and about $1000 per month on cosmetics and hair .... or else ... and yeah, earns 74% of men's salary
I think the value of this kdrama will be to show how Ms. Kim evolves into a strong independent woman, able to truly help others
And you insist on bad stuff that happens when women try to escape patriarchy LOL Korea is not Saudi Arabia :)…
Drama To the Moon addresses this :) somewhat and fyi the same pressures exist everywhere :) except places like.. Saudi Arabia, where you are owned behind that tent-like thingy :) THere must be other places like that but S Korea is NOT there :)
In the USA, girls do not study math and science and pretend to be dumb, and wear makeup and pushup bras in order to be socially acceptable or else thy wont get a boyfriend... You should see what teenagers wear - I buy teenage clothes for dance outfits... it is all bare stomach and deep cleavage cuts...
And you insist on bad stuff that happens when women try to escape patriarchy LOL Korea is not Saudi Arabia :)…
The USA is 74, S Korea is 68. The difference is very small!!!!! In the USA, young males are not openly aggressively hostile like this article describes. They are simply NOT THERE. Nobody marries, they make kids left and right and leave them, etc . There is no respect for women. Women are expected to be a live Barbie Doll, with a pushup bra and sex ready. And sure, dumb. In the USA, there is no family anymore.
Korea like the rest of Asia - in Japan, unmarried women after age 25 are Xmass cake, expired - they cannot work anymore after age 25 and if they are not married... tough luck... ANd their men can go to prostitutes since prostitution is legal... In poor parts o Asia, they sell their girls..
We all know that...
AND WE GET TO SEE IT IN OUR ENTERTAINMENT. USA drama will have explicit sex and promiscuous female leads
Kdrama will have Ms. Kim as the main character and as a good nice person. Or even worse.
Typical kdrama FL is clumzy loser, socially inept, inept in living her life, poor, incapable, unconnected. BUT NICE. ANd NICE = DOORMAT. I hate doormat kdrama FLs.
I ALREADY KNOW WHAT S KOREA WOMEN SITUATION IS JUST BY LOOKING AT KDRAMAS. Entire kdrama plot for too many kdramas is about some rash irrational impulsive POOR woman who is "nice" and goody goody and naive and helps everyone and hurts herself, and has to be then protected by some man. And the fantasy plot of some total clutz and/or ugly poor girl who gets noticed by some super rich and handsome dude who then chases her.
That is why I vehemently protest kdrama FL who are clutzes :) I want change.
So - to be clear - Ms. Kim is NOT nice. She is an enabler :) And i want to see her change. The drama is to show that change :)
Behind this is also the Asian "I own my kids" ie using kids are transactional material. ie selling your kids - telling them what to study who to marry etc
THe West has fallen apart, there is no more families or morality or brains, for that matter, it has all turned into one huge shopping mall medical-marijuana "orgy" circus where anything goes. I might have given up already. Feminism in the West is really nothing, it is just about women trying to become as roothless and cruel and elbow forward just like men do. THis is a simplified version of the truth but essentially boils down to that
The East still has families... and sense of what is moral and what a good character is.... and so the East has SOME chance to save itself. Except Japan LOL
The sad reality is that nobody but S Asia and India and Africa and S America is having kids, and that by 2050 25% of Earth population will be from Africa, and Africa ... has .. issues.... severe issues!!!! about women and morality. Many countries still do not even send girls to school... Polygamy, promiscuity, teenage pregnancy, arranged child marriages, etc... a nightmare... So..
Lawyer Seon Jae changed the numbers from 0.0001 to 9.999 % He forgot to tell the fake id / document maker to change…
Yeah! I was thinking we are so used to thinking the subs are perfect - so we questioned ourselves LOL but now after this experience... who knows how many times the subs had a mistake we did not notice LOL this mistake was obvious and crucial so we noticed... :)
I am saying dramas are there to show GROWTH and how ppl fixed their mistakes
and Ms Kim is starting to, starting from a really pathetic state with deep doodoo mistakes... and she gotta grow a lot
SHE KNEW FOR YEARS THAT SHE CREATED DOODOO AND FINALLY SHE IS STARTING TO FIX IT by the end of ep 4
and Ms. Kim is starting to, she finally took up that real estate exam and asked her husband to make the dinner for the guest. Thats her first step :) on that looong journey. SHE TOOK IT HERSELF. you should celebrate her
and Mr Kim was forced to think about taking a first step
Lawyer Seon Jae changed the numbers from 0.0001 to 9.999 % He forgot to tell the fake id / document maker to change…
Well that explains the forgery. Chaning 0.00001% to 9.9999% is easy, it wont be noticed. But erasing a NOT would leave a "hole" in the text that would be visible :)
I am just about to start watching ep 100 so I dont know if that was explained.
BUT WHAT I WAS BRINGING UP IS THAT DIFFERENT PLATFORMS HAD DIFFERENT SUBTITLES FOR THE SAME SCENE - SOME SUBS SAY "DO NOT" AND SOME SAY "DO" IN THE VERY VERY VERY LAST SCENE OF EP 98
If you want to redeem yourself, start heavily praising her great acting :)
Oh every group in the usa is below replacement? I have to research that. Thanks for the pointer. Regardless of low birth rates for everyone.... for sure by 2045 white will be minority, and young white is already minority today.
By 2045 25% of the world will be Africans.... that is scary, they are totally incompetent in running anything and 10000% steeped in corruption. But better than anyone in music and dance :) How will the world be different when they become the prominent kind...??
I vote that some Buddhist-like culture become the prominent kind, that is the only way to save us all....
It probably hurt esp if they were "loving" and "safe" in other ways, .... but ... it is worth it :) necessary to drop them for the sake of gaining yourself :) See the poem JOURNEY below...... and find real "family" for yourself, ppl who think like you and will genuinely care for you. And ... with some luck and hard work, your family or friends *might* come around :) Esp if you become rich and famous :) LOL
I am not sure if you experienced racism in the USA, it is really big on that...
THERE IS THAT SONG BY MARY OLIVER - THE JOURNEY
The Journey
One day you finally knew
what you had to do, and began,
though the voices around you
kept shouting
their bad advice—
though the whole house
began to tremble
and you felt the old tug
at your ankles.
"Mend my life!"
each voice cried.
But you didn't stop.
You knew what you had to do,
though the wind pried
with its stiff fingers
at the very foundations,
though their melancholy
was terrible.
It was already late
enough, and a wild night,
and the road full of fallen
branches and stones.
But little by little,
as you left their voices behind,
the stars began to burn
through the sheets of clouds,
and there was a new voice
which you slowly
recognized as your own,
that kept you company
as you strode deeper and deeper
into the world,
determined to do
the only thing you could do—
determined to save
the only life you could save.
Women are facing terrible things EVERYWHERE bc it is pure economics - if half of Earth population (i.e. women) are kept under, that means that 50% of Earth population (i.e. men) can control 100% of Earth resources. It is as simple as that.
Keeping women down is exploitative slavery that lasted thousands of years on Earth and allows men to live plush lives.
From that comes female cuningness - since a woman is tied to a guy who "owns her" - her father or husband - and can only gain power or resources or her safety through some male - her husband, father, or son - she has to MANIPULATE MEN to get something for herself.
So men learned to be super afraid and distrustful of women.
And women learned to fight other women in that rat race to put "their" man on top or to grab "the man" for themselves
And women learned to be cuning, manipulative, camouflaged, to fake "niceness", to pretend to be dumb, etc etc etc etc
Very ugly
Esp since being female does not mean you are enlightened LOL Many women are as bad ignoramuses and cruel greedy dumb ignorant just like the men who use women
And there are very smart men too and they too are the "enemies" of the ruling brutes
It is ultimately the battle between good and evil
And a woman has the advantage of being more intuitive and perhaps more AWARE and more questioning of what is going on since she is the abused party
So lets take your case. Let's say you are a great person and ah so nice and ah so great and successful etc etc etc AND THEN SOMEONE TALKS ONLY ABOUT YOUR BAD HAIR DAY AND 10000 PEOPLE DISCUSS YOUR BAD HAIR DAY ONLY :) Let me know you gonna feel :)
I you ar going to talk about a bad hair day, you better do it nicely and gently and quickly and spend 100000 other hours praising what is good.... is my social advice to you about resepct and care of others :) I think it will help you a lot to become more socially acceptable and successful :) and overall a nicer person :)
So to cut it short, If this poster wanted to comment on her plastic, he/she should have said - wow what a great actress and even she I think had the nose job done - she was always beautiful and didnt need anything ... she is such a great actress .. .... etc etc etc something like that....
One obstacle there is self image bc "being nice" means being a doormat and women desperately want to be seen as "nice"
and another obstacle is women tripping other women.... Kdrama Knights FLower imo is the best commentary on that...
Women are trained to fight other women so that they can grab ONE GUY who will be their sugar daddy and the "front to the world" So women have no issues grabbing someone else's man, tripping other women at work, holding other women to unreasonable standards, etc. DISGUSTING
Just google "white as minority in the USA" and you will get all kinds of links from Census Buerau and many newspapers and privates...
In the USA it is white women who abort... Brown women do not abort, they give birth :)
RIGHT NOW, WHITE YOUNG PPL ARE A MINORITY.
White means "non-hispanic white" :) There was 75% white in the USA...
So.... DO NOT FEEL SELF PITY, THERE ARE LOTS OF WORSE SITUATIONS THAN S KOREA LOL IN RUSSIA, THE MAIN CONTRACEPTIVE METHOD IS ABORTION. IN ARAB WORLD, YOU GET KILLED BY YOUR FAMILY. etc
STOP FEELING SELF PITY, IT IS NOT EASY ANYWHERE YET WOMEN HAVE TO CHANGE THE SITUATION
Women are more likely to provide a good customer support and get along with coworkers... and lead a team...
BUT the price is entering a field that is traditionally "male" and women run away, stupidly thinking that being in a computer field will make them lose boyfriends... Heck, you get boyfriends if you join IT!!! LOL
Women also CAN enter relatively low-physical "smart" jobs like being an electrician....
And woman can run small businesses, like real estate agents, etc.
With the older population these days, there are tons of jobs in elderly care....
There are LOTS of opportunities for women who are not afraid....
Smart / greedy men understand the value of woman as someone who brings money, so they will support a capable woman.
A smart woman has to get educated about how to negotiate about pay, etc and there are programs for that and also ... good old youtube self help videos LOL
e.g. In the USA, most team leaders in IT are women, bc they get the team together and work done... bc women communicate, accomodate others, care, solve problems, keep relationships, and get the work done and keep ppl happy - and so ... you can be earning huge $$$$ leading a team of computer nerds...
IT jobs
So, a smart woman CAN escape it IF she is willing to step out of the box and the safety of her own family and friends, ie OUT OF THE GOLD CAGE, OUT OF THE SHADE OF THE FAMILY TREE
and that .. is the same journey for anyone, male or female.
Many men are losers bc they too lack education and support....
Life is not easy, it is a grind... says To the Moon drama :) and it is true, male or female .... and more so if female :) .
Too many kdramas are entirely based on the plot of naive stupid clutzy loser FL and all the stupidities she does and the great man who KEEPS saving her..... . IT IS CLEAR THAT IS HOW KOREA / ASIA SEES WOMEN and so I protest that :) As an international audience, I have a say too :) The international audience is also used portraying women as losers. ... it is a global thing. Sexism is global. Women have been treated like slaves for how many thousands of years now... ? so that men can have access to ALL resources and power.
In the USA, sexism is very vile bc it is hidden - a woman seemingly looks empowered and equal bc she sleeps around and does seemingly whatever she wants - but she has to be just like a Barbie Doll and live a dumb life with makeup and push up bra and spend 3 hours per day preening herself and about $1000 per month on cosmetics and hair .... or else ... and yeah, earns 74% of men's salary
I think the value of this kdrama will be to show how Ms. Kim evolves into a strong independent woman, able to truly help others
and fyi the same pressures exist everywhere :) except places like.. Saudi Arabia, where you are owned behind that tent-like thingy :) THere must be other places like that but S Korea is NOT there :)
In the USA, girls do not study math and science and pretend to be dumb, and wear makeup and pushup bras in order to be socially acceptable or else thy wont get a boyfriend... You should see what teenagers wear - I buy teenage clothes for dance outfits... it is all bare stomach and deep cleavage cuts...
In the USA, there is no family anymore.
Korea like the rest of Asia - in Japan, unmarried women after age 25 are Xmass cake, expired - they cannot work anymore after age 25 and if they are not married... tough luck... ANd their men can go to prostitutes since prostitution is legal... In poor parts o Asia, they sell their girls..
We all know that...
AND WE GET TO SEE IT IN OUR ENTERTAINMENT.
USA drama will have explicit sex and promiscuous female leads
Kdrama will have Ms. Kim as the main character and as a good nice person. Or even worse.
Typical kdrama FL is clumzy loser, socially inept, inept in living her life, poor, incapable, unconnected. BUT NICE. ANd NICE = DOORMAT. I hate doormat kdrama FLs.
I ALREADY KNOW WHAT S KOREA WOMEN SITUATION IS JUST BY LOOKING AT KDRAMAS.
Entire kdrama plot for too many kdramas is about some rash irrational impulsive POOR woman who is "nice" and goody goody and naive and helps everyone and hurts herself, and has to be then protected by some man.
And the fantasy plot of some total clutz and/or ugly poor girl who gets noticed by some super rich and handsome dude who then chases her.
That is why I vehemently protest kdrama FL who are clutzes :) I want change.
So - to be clear - Ms. Kim is NOT nice. She is an enabler :) And i want to see her change. The drama is to show that change :)
Behind this is also the Asian "I own my kids" ie using kids are transactional material. ie selling your kids - telling them what to study who to marry etc
THe West has fallen apart, there is no more families or morality or brains, for that matter, it has all turned into one huge shopping mall medical-marijuana "orgy" circus where anything goes. I might have given up already. Feminism in the West is really nothing, it is just about women trying to become as roothless and cruel and elbow forward just like men do. THis is a simplified version of the truth but essentially boils down to that
The East still has families... and sense of what is moral and what a good character is.... and so the East has SOME chance to save itself. Except Japan LOL
The sad reality is that nobody but S Asia and India and Africa and S America is having kids, and that by 2050 25% of Earth population will be from Africa,
and Africa ... has .. issues.... severe issues!!!! about women and morality. Many countries still do not even send girls to school... Polygamy, promiscuity, teenage pregnancy, arranged child marriages, etc... a nightmare... So..
I am saying dramas are there to show GROWTH and how ppl fixed their mistakes
and Ms Kim is starting to, starting from a really pathetic state with deep doodoo mistakes... and she gotta grow a lot
SHE KNEW FOR YEARS THAT SHE CREATED DOODOO AND FINALLY SHE IS STARTING TO FIX IT by the end of ep 4
and Ms. Kim is starting to, she finally took up that real estate exam and asked her husband to make the dinner for the guest. Thats her first step :) on that looong journey. SHE TOOK IT HERSELF. you should celebrate her
and Mr Kim was forced to think about taking a first step
I am just about to start watching ep 100 so I dont know if that was explained.
BUT WHAT I WAS BRINGING UP IS THAT DIFFERENT PLATFORMS HAD DIFFERENT SUBTITLES FOR THE SAME SCENE - SOME SUBS SAY "DO NOT" AND SOME SAY "DO" IN THE VERY VERY VERY LAST SCENE OF EP 98