I realy hoped it would work, but it's not, it's pretty bad movie, for those who already know the drill, there is nothing special about it , the actors are so so , their good look is not enough, all of it feels like an Hollmark movies with bad jokes in between, there is no chemistry or sparks between the couple, or even wanting for them to be together, and it's too predictable in the worse way it could be, just a generic plot
Ep 3 made me so dissapointed, I didn't expected he had ex girlfriend, I was sure it was Ex boyfriend, and the writer didn't fell in the same old trop, it was so dissapointing for me that I start to feel it's not what I thouth it was, and I should lower my expectations,
Han Ji yoo made me depressed, in S1 KSJ had more impact with his joyful attitude, but HJY can not hold almost full episode without even give us some reason or a clue for his act, he doesn't talk, he doesn't think , he doesn't even have dialogs, but also the enviorment around him not interesting at all, it's not that he is moving from place to place, he is always in the resturant, and his character doesn't belivable at all, because he doesn't put the minimum effort to give service, to find clients, everytime someone coming he is cold to them, and look upset, instead of welcoming , it's not even possible in real life to have that kind of resturant without putting big amount of effert, asspecially when you don't sell alcohol, you are not in Seoul, and not even in the center of the city, it's like a side road of old vilage with small comunnity, his character is a fiction in so many level in that point.
If he is poor and upset about KSJ being rich, why he doesn't proove he can do it without him? he barely moving!
There are a lot of Old Korean movies with that kind of character, but they are real, hard working, suffering, you understand their suffering, about life, money, the biggest issue in SK, there is always lead to some story and complexity of their inner life, but here, I don't feel they even scratching the complexity, because we already know he is a introvert, it's not enough for telling a "Korean" character Story,
For my point of view the writer try too hard in S2, she didn't develope tha same state of mind she had with S1, when she have some pure prespective, without relying on other inspirations that are not even relevant to this story,
That means she know the art of filming, she watch a lot of movies and got the inspiration, while trying to mix the elements in her films, she lost her identity, and the all point of the original story, The story didn't developed well enough, first it's started with Ex girlfriend, instead of Ex Boyfriend, Second, she give us side story of a mother and a kid that doesn't make you feel nothing or relate to them, it's like she start from the middle of something that is not conected to S1 at all,
Ep 3 is painful to watch, the principle is more upseting then ep 2, I wish they found another reason to do the bl instead of forcing them to do it free for her benefit, they are being used too far, and it's not really funny, if it was I would forgive her, On top of her there are the girl fans, that are extremly hard to watch without wanting to pull my hair out .overall 99% of it is extremly annoying , But the main actors are adorable, the second couple are more interesting then the main couple, the only reason to watch , Earth acting better and his character is way more likble then in 2moons,
And adressing the drinking, this is part of their culture, they drink a lot , and because it's a comedy, they doesn't give more serious asspect to it, people really lost their sence of humor, and they doesn't understand Koreans, It is not the "right" thing to do, for sure, but it's part of the society they are living in, first it is very cold in the winter, so probably it's started from this, then in Asia Alchohol is cheap and readily accessible 24/7everywhere near you no limitataion, so cheap they doesn't care about drinking so much, they are also very close people, quiet , so drinking helps them to open up to each other faster, they have a lot of work and stress, a lot of stress due money, even in the movie they talk about salary with the boss, after work they sittting with the co workers and boss and drink, other times they drink with frineds, so here you go the full reason for it. Offcourse that there are more reasons, but those are the noticable ones.
I love Gong Hyo Jin so much, she never make me dissapointed with her choices, if the choice is bad it's only because of the producer or the writer, never her, and this time the movie was good from the first moment until the end, very cute, I really like Kim Rae Won too, although I didn't watch him for years, he is really a good actor, I feel that it's a "Real" Korean romance movie, unlike most of the new ones, even the trailer point it out, I am sure that those who didn't like it like Netflix productions more, as they are adjust themself to be real American, but no Korean to be found there except the actors.ok, and the language
I liked it even though it doesn't have a proper kiss tho. It reminded me of early 2000-10's Japanese dramas where…
It is the truth, I think you are the first one that think like me in MDL, usually even gays think there is no difference between Bl to Gay films, I am watching worldwide dramas for years and years, I think I watched most of them (that worth watching) so there is a big difference, sometimes I am watching web gay series just to relax from the bl nonsence, It could be that most gays watching just glad they have something to watch finelly after almost nothing at all, so they are more forgiving, and as years goes by and there is more expouser to bl, they willing to be more critic about it, the older one understand a lot of money involve, It's not only straight women, that your mistake,There is couple of known gays producers in Thailand, most of their productions are like that, like New. I don't know where it will take us, it could be that to a better place of openess, it's a slow process, for example, for years we've watching bl with rape normelise, after a lot of critic they stop with it almost completly, I don't remember there was a rape scene in the last 2-3 years at least. they decreas the violence in general, but overall there are still a lot of problems, it could be that it's very hard to make a good romance series in general since the 80's. because people have a lot of knowledge, that is why for example they love Asian dramas, it's far far a way from their culture and from reality, it's like make them relax, you could believe love and romance again, but if you watch wesern romance it's just bad, it can not work anymore. unless it's special and rare.
I don't mind if he is after a break up, but the general attitude doesn't make sence for a old doctor, you should watch "Triage" there are couple of childish doctors there, none of them act that extremly stupid.
The only reason of series like that being popular is viewers that didn't expose to much to romance movies , they maybe watched some of them, but not a lot, because if they did they would not bare to watch it until t end, same denay, break up and then running, it's always the same
I liked it even though it doesn't have a proper kiss tho. It reminded me of early 2000-10's Japanese dramas where…
Quote: " (cute but pointless with a hint of internalized heterosexism and queer baiting thrown in)" it's accurate! exactly. you just wrote what I didn't knew how to write. Quote: " It felt like the whole production team was purposefully avoiding a kiss scene" Again, exactly, and I read the manga, although I need to refresh it because in the manga ,they did kiss again when they sit on the sofa, so I think that was the point that I was began to be frustrated, I did like the series in general a lot , but it made me a little upset, I didn't get why he look so disgust if he like him so much and even initiate a kiss by himself
Quote: " I know I'm not supposed to watch a BL drama through a LGBTQ+ lens, but still there are so many things I have a lot to say on, but won't!"
I am watching it only because there is nothing to watch, I don't know what is happening, but it's really something bad, it's like going backwards, instead of going forward in bls productions. The problem with ep 2 remains, the same as episode 1, but less painful to watch, first the Doctor is not behaving even close to a real one, more like a kid , second, the dialogs are making me frustrated, and last , I feel I have watched this plot too times already, why they doesn't grow up?! the actor obviously is too old for this show, but somehow he got this role, he have to, becase he is old enough to be a doctor, but a stupid doctor, that doesn't know nothing about love?! really? and he was with someone for long time?! and all the soccer play with striping infront of the kids, it's stupid to the level I can not even describe, I will keep watching until it would be really painful, like happned with "Star in my mind" drop at the last episode that was exactly the same just with a different actors, What is going on in the producer and writer heads? do they have a brain? or they have only $$ ? how?! the juice replaced by something else I didn't notice?! probably.
I liked it even though it doesn't have a proper kiss tho. It reminded me of early 2000-10's Japanese dramas where…
I think you misjudging them, they are conservative but unlike S Korea for example, they have a lot of Yaoi for example, and they had Bl with kisses before, it's not the real reason, the real reason is that production is avoiding it because they want to make it purly for $$$, In Cherry magic I was more forgivin, because it had a plot and some depth, but here you don't have it really, they didn't dig into the depth of "unluck" person, or the feeling of being "Unlucky" , it's just stay as a comedy and there isn't a development, so if it's shallow give us the kiss too,
I liked it even though it doesn't have a proper kiss tho. It reminded me of early 2000-10's Japanese dramas where…
As I wrote, I love Jdrama, and I'm watching it for years since 00's, so I know most of their romance comedies, and how its ends, Straight couple did kiss in the last episode from time to time. it's true that not only then, unless it's a school romance there was none, that they have a lot of them, but more older couple kiss on the lips, not on the chick, they are a couple, But it's a bl , they are not suddenly, so even the real "proper" kiss was on the first episode, my only request was that they be equal to straight couple,and follow the manga, in the manga he didn't resist at all in ep 7, and did kissed him, I don't expect them to do something overdoing at all, only like they are in other series.
It was the last episode unfortunately. I have watched only part of it , without subtitles. and Although I love Japanese bl and this drama, I am frustrated they doesn't have a proper kiss, at list at the end, it was cute and all, but for a last kiss ?! I feel they are fooling us. It is disappointing, they preparing their idol and riding on this 2gether wave. and I really hated 2gether, it was bad because you know it's all about idols.
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Han Ji yoo made me depressed, in S1 KSJ had more impact with his joyful attitude, but HJY can not hold almost full episode without even give us some reason or a clue for his act, he doesn't talk, he doesn't think , he doesn't even have dialogs, but also the enviorment around him not interesting at all, it's not that he is moving from place to place, he is always in the resturant, and his character doesn't belivable at all, because he doesn't put the minimum effort to give service, to find clients, everytime someone coming he is cold to them, and look upset, instead of welcoming , it's not even possible in real life to have that kind of resturant without putting big amount of effert, asspecially when you don't sell alcohol, you are not in Seoul, and not even in the center of the city, it's like a side road of old vilage with small comunnity, his character is a fiction in so many level in that point.
If he is poor and upset about KSJ being rich, why he doesn't proove he can do it without him? he barely moving!
There are a lot of Old Korean movies with that kind of character, but they are real, hard working, suffering, you understand their suffering, about life, money, the biggest issue in SK,
there is always lead to some story and complexity of their inner life, but here, I don't feel they even scratching the complexity, because we already know he is a introvert, it's not enough for telling a "Korean" character Story,
For my point of view the writer try too hard in S2, she didn't develope tha same state of mind she had with S1, when she have some pure prespective, without relying on other inspirations that are not even relevant to this story,
That means she know the art of filming, she watch a lot of movies and got the inspiration, while trying to mix the elements in her films, she lost her identity, and the all point of the original story,
The story didn't developed well enough, first it's started with Ex girlfriend, instead of Ex Boyfriend, Second, she give us side story of a mother and a kid that doesn't make you feel nothing or relate to them, it's like she start from the middle of something that is not conected to S1 at all,
On top of her there are the girl fans, that are extremly hard to watch without wanting to pull my hair out .overall 99% of it is extremly annoying , But the main actors are adorable, the second couple are more interesting then the main couple, the only reason to watch , Earth acting better and his character is way more likble then in 2moons,
It is not the "right" thing to do, for sure, but it's part of the society they are living in, first it is very cold in the winter, so probably it's started from this, then in Asia Alchohol is cheap and readily accessible 24/7everywhere near you no limitataion, so cheap they doesn't care about drinking so much, they are also very close people, quiet , so drinking helps them to open up to each other faster, they have a lot of work and stress, a lot of stress due money, even in the movie they talk about salary with the boss, after work they sittting with the co workers and boss and drink, other times they drink with frineds, so here you go the full reason for it. Offcourse that there are more reasons, but those are the noticable ones.
I feel that it's a "Real" Korean romance movie, unlike most of the new ones, even the trailer point it out,
I am sure that those who didn't like it like Netflix productions more, as they are adjust themself to be real American, but no Korean to be found there except the actors.ok, and the language
It could be that most gays watching just glad they have something to watch finelly after almost nothing at all, so they are more forgiving, and as years goes by and there is more expouser to bl, they willing to be more critic about it, the older one understand a lot of money involve, It's not only straight women, that your mistake,There is couple of known gays producers in Thailand, most of their productions are like that, like New.
I don't know where it will take us, it could be that to a better place of openess, it's a slow process, for example, for years we've watching bl with rape normelise, after a lot of critic they stop with it almost completly, I don't remember there was a rape scene in the last 2-3 years at least. they decreas the violence in general, but overall there are still a lot of problems, it could be that it's very hard to make a good romance series in general since the 80's. because people have a lot of knowledge, that is why for example they love Asian dramas, it's far far a way from their culture and from reality, it's like make them relax, you could believe love and romance again, but if you watch wesern romance it's just bad, it can not work anymore. unless it's special and rare.
" (cute but pointless with a hint of internalized heterosexism and queer baiting thrown in)"
it's accurate! exactly. you just wrote what I didn't knew how to write.
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" It felt like the whole production team was purposefully avoiding a kiss scene"
Again, exactly, and I read the manga, although I need to refresh it because in the manga ,they did kiss again when they sit on the sofa, so I think that was the point that I was began to be frustrated, I did like the series in general a lot , but it made me a little upset, I didn't get why he look so disgust if he like him so much and even initiate a kiss by himself
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" I know I'm not supposed to watch a BL drama through a LGBTQ+ lens, but still there are so many things I have a lot to say on, but won't!"
Why not?
The problem with ep 2 remains, the same as episode 1, but less painful to watch, first the Doctor is not behaving even close to a real one, more like a kid , second, the dialogs are making me frustrated, and last , I feel I have watched this plot too times already, why they doesn't grow up?! the actor obviously is too old for this show, but somehow he got this role, he have to, becase he is old enough to be a doctor, but a stupid doctor, that doesn't know nothing about love?! really? and he was with someone for long time?! and all the soccer play with striping infront of the kids, it's stupid to the level I can not even describe,
I will keep watching until it would be really painful, like happned with "Star in my mind" drop at the last episode that was exactly the same just with a different actors,
What is going on in the producer and writer heads? do they have a brain? or they have only $$ ? how?! the juice replaced by something else I didn't notice?! probably.