The series makes me want to reread the webtoon. In the webtoon, the relationship develops much more slowly, and I would have loved it if the show had followed that pace and added more episodes. On the other hand, considering budget limitations, they truly did an impressive job with what they had. There are things in the webtoon that wouldn’t have worked on screen, and some lines were a bit childish — they improved those to make it feel more realistic.
The actors are excellent, and the characters feel more human than in the webtoon. There’s one scene that was supposed to include a large number of actors (in a basketball hall), but they skipped it and jumped straight to the waiting room scene. It felt like a sudden cut, like we missed something — but again, they probably had no choice, since casting that many extras would be expensive. That’s probably the only scene that felt a bit off.
It’s interesting how hard it is for them to secure funding for series like this. They seem to put effort into things like product placement — for example, the stickers on the drink cans, probably to allow future branding with alcohol. And yet that seems to be their main focus. I don’t understand why they don’t try getting funding from other sources besides alcohol — there are so many options.
You do realize that Saint picked this role for himself and also produced this series right? You are frustrated…
Honestly, that’s true. I understand why fans were upset that I assumed I knew what he really wants. I apologize — I definitely don’t know what he chose or didn’t choose, and I certainly don’t know him well enough to decide for him or say what’s best for him. The way I phrased it wasn’t right. I wish him all the best, and hope everyone enjoys watching the rest of the series.
You do realize that Saint picked this role for himself and also produced this series right? You are frustrated…
True, but personally I find it upsetting. I mean, this is the country that exports the most Bl series, and I’ve raised several hypotheses about it — maybe it’s cultural, maybe it’s related to film education at universities, or maybe it’s because untrained people there don’t need a degree in directing or production to start producing. I honestly have no idea.
One thing’s for sure — it’s definitely not about budget. For example, in SKorea, there are low-budget web dramas. I’m not saying they’re always high quality, but I’m sure their budgets are much smaller, and yet they still manage to be better — because their education system strives for excellence, and so does their culture.
Yes, that comes with downsides — like rigid thinking, reliance on formulas, and lack of creativity or willingness to break out of the box — but even student projects aim for a high level of quality. That’s why, for me, this really is a mystery.
In any case, I definitely don’t know what he chose or didn’t choose, and I certainly don’t know him well enough to decide for him or say what’s best for him. The way I phrased it wasn’t right. I wish him all the best, and hope everyone enjoys watching the rest of the series.
I like this KBL series.But I think it will be more great if Han Ji Won as a male Olympic gymnastic champions have…
The main actor is incredibly cute, but there's no doubt he doesn't look athletic. On the other hand, he's supposed to look cute and delicate... so that's more a webtoon thing than the producers' fault.
How can they fit a webtoon, where only its first part has 30 chapters, into 8 episodes in a series? It's impossible without rushing a lot... even 2 chapters per episode, wouldn't finish most of the 30 chapters.
Saint deserves so much more than this, it's so frustrating. I'm frustrated for him. The series is substandard, the musical effects are bad, the script is awful. You can barely make it through two episodes without just feeling frustrated. He really doesn't deserve this; he's so cute and talented. But there's nothing to be done, Thai productions are just terrible.I stopped watching their series a long time ago, but I wanted to give this one a chance because I like this actor.
How can I get back to Oshiroen’s new active page? I lost the link and can’t find it again. Can someone send it to me privately? Not the X link—the Discord isn’t active anymore from there.
I don’t know why, but the Chinese are experts at these kinds of BL series. It’s strange, because their straight shows are usually tr@sh, but in these ones, they seem to allow themselves to let loose and be free. Maybe that’s the reason? It’s a weird thing.
The drama is good. I don't think it's just about the issue of infidelity. I believe that viewers from Western…
You're right, but the kind of suppression we're talking about here takes a different form. I find it hard to believe that a Western woman would go through exactly what this character experiences, especially since she does interact with others, and the responses she gets from her surroundings are also extremely restrained and even repressive. I also agree with you that many of the people commenting on this site seem quite young, and that’s likely why they struggle to grasp the emotional complexity here. It’s true that being in a relationship with someone emotionally distant, who shows no warmth and even displays subtle disdain, can be incredibly painful—it becomes a form of passive emotional abuse.
That said, I feel the real emphasis in this drama is on her reactions and her emotional restraint. This kind of character—someone who endures everything silently without ever setting boundaries—has become very typical in Japanese dramas, especially in recent years.
Maybe the series focuses more on the emotionally restrained nature of the characters than on the betrayal. Most of them, including the husband, behave in similarly repressed ways—the only exception is the character who was raised outside of Japan.
There seems to be an indirect social critique of Japanese emotional culture—but perhaps I’m overanalyzing, and it’s mostly just meant to entertain.
The female character- Tomada Maki - likely grew up in a household that didn’t allow her to express herself freely or demand the rights she deserves, which is why she also avoids conflict. Based on years of observation, my assumption is that Japanese culture is highly restrained—not just for women but for men as well. The male character- Tomada Kyoichi- is also emotionally restrained. This is why we see a contrasting supporting character who is more free-spirited, serving as both a contextual counterpoint and a complete reversal.
Yamate Asahi appears deeply attractive and exotic to her—he didn’t grow up in Japan, and he behaves differently from her reserved husband. He speaks his mind and acts impulsively, almost like a child (as she herself once told him). I think there's a very interesting depth here crafted by the screenwriter, and the actors are truly outstanding, each and every one.
It’s painful to watch the female lead frustrated and suppressing her needs to the point where she barely understands herself anymore. At the same time, it's hard to judge her husband—he too must cope with both his own emotional restraint and hers. There’s nothing that frees them from the chains of the upbringing they received. In the end, each of them seeks comfort in someone who doesn’t follow that same rulebook: he finds solace in a destructive and unfaithful woman who shows no regard for the consequences of her actions, despite supposedly loving her friend (his wife); and the woman, in contrast, is drawn to a man who behaves like a child.
I wonder why the rating is so low. This storyline isn't much different from Futtara Doshaburi, which started at…
The drama is good. I don't think it's just about the issue of infidelity. I believe that viewers from Western countries struggle to understand East Asian culture and the situation of women there. The average level of intelligence in the West has noticeably declined, and people operate on autopilot—following some kind of rulebook where everything is black and white. They lack the ability to understand complexity or the psychology of another person or culture. That’s why they not only judge the infidelity, but also judge the female character. They believe that every woman should naturally act assertively, as Western women are supposedly expected to. They don’t realize that in some cultures, women are raised to suppress their own needs.
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The actors are excellent, and the characters feel more human than in the webtoon. There’s one scene that was supposed to include a large number of actors (in a basketball hall), but they skipped it and jumped straight to the waiting room scene. It felt like a sudden cut, like we missed something — but again, they probably had no choice, since casting that many extras would be expensive. That’s probably the only scene that felt a bit off.
It’s interesting how hard it is for them to secure funding for series like this. They seem to put effort into things like product placement — for example, the stickers on the drink cans, probably to allow future branding with alcohol. And yet that seems to be their main focus. I don’t understand why they don’t try getting funding from other sources besides alcohol — there are so many options.
One thing’s for sure — it’s definitely not about budget. For example, in SKorea, there are low-budget web dramas. I’m not saying they’re always high quality, but I’m sure their budgets are much smaller, and yet they still manage to be better — because their education system strives for excellence, and so does their culture.
Yes, that comes with downsides — like rigid thinking, reliance on formulas, and lack of creativity or willingness to break out of the box — but even student projects aim for a high level of quality. That’s why, for me, this really is a mystery.
In any case, I definitely don’t know what he chose or didn’t choose, and I certainly don’t know him well enough to decide for him or say what’s best for him. The way I phrased it wasn’t right. I wish him all the best, and hope everyone enjoys watching the rest of the series.
I also agree with you that many of the people commenting on this site seem quite young, and that’s likely why they struggle to grasp the emotional complexity here. It’s true that being in a relationship with someone emotionally distant, who shows no warmth and even displays subtle disdain, can be incredibly painful—it becomes a form of passive emotional abuse.
That said, I feel the real emphasis in this drama is on her reactions and her emotional restraint. This kind of character—someone who endures everything silently without ever setting boundaries—has become very typical in Japanese dramas, especially in recent years.
Maybe the series focuses more on the emotionally restrained nature of the characters than on the betrayal. Most of them, including the husband, behave in similarly repressed ways—the only exception is the character who was raised outside of Japan.
There seems to be an indirect social critique of Japanese emotional culture—but perhaps I’m overanalyzing, and it’s mostly just meant to entertain.
The male character- Tomada Kyoichi- is also emotionally restrained. This is why we see a contrasting supporting character who is more free-spirited, serving as both a contextual counterpoint and a complete reversal.
Yamate Asahi appears deeply attractive and exotic to her—he didn’t grow up in Japan, and he behaves differently from her reserved husband. He speaks his mind and acts impulsively, almost like a child (as she herself once told him). I think there's a very interesting depth here crafted by the screenwriter, and the actors are truly outstanding, each and every one.
It’s painful to watch the female lead frustrated and suppressing her needs to the point where she barely understands herself anymore.
At the same time, it's hard to judge her husband—he too must cope with both his own emotional restraint and hers. There’s nothing that frees them from the chains of the upbringing they received.
In the end, each of them seeks comfort in someone who doesn’t follow that same rulebook: he finds solace in a destructive and unfaithful woman who shows no regard for the consequences of her actions, despite supposedly loving her friend (his wife); and the woman, in contrast, is drawn to a man who behaves like a child.