I wish the makeup artists would be consistent with how much makeup (especially lipstick / lip gloss) they apply to the male characters.
In the scene where Prince Saenkaew and Sasin meet on the train platform (via the usual tired trope of the prince losing his balance and falling into the arms of Sasin (eye-roll) ), the prince is hardly wearing much lipstick / gloss. He looks great.
But in a slightly later scene, he looks like some company's commercial advertisement for lip gloss. SO much cotton-candy pink on his lips, it's ridiculous.
I see this problem in a lot of series, not just LiTM.
As it unfolded, the actual, real-life chemistry between the leads - not just between their characters - became stronger and stronger. I've seen a number of their off-screen interactions, interviews and fan meetings, and their chemistry is quite real. Physically, they are incredibly comfortable with each other, and that warmth and intimacy really translated to their screen performance.
I know Taiwanese actors rarely pair up as onscreen couples for multiple projects, but I really hope to see them again. They are so good together.
Feels like only one of them is checked in. This is a downside of fixed pairs unfortunately. Both need to feel…
Since Boun started having more health issues (he has a leaky heart valve, arrhythmia, and was born with a misshapen breastbone that actually presses on his heart when it shouldn't be touching it at all), it seems like he and Prem have really pulled back from their projects.
And when they DO take on a project, the chemistry they used to have is toned down to the point of almost nonexistence.
Especially considering all of that ^^^, I do admire them for sticking together as far as them supporting each other. They both refuse to work with any other acting partner.
But it just doesn't help their projects if the on-screen chemistry isn't there.
i was shocked by the white haired ming cook... is he maybe a souble agent or something. seeing how he spoke korean…
So far, I have not seen him betray his country at all.
Rather, he is UPHOLDING his own sense of morality, fair play and honor, and I think he feels that he is also honoring the Ming as well.
The Korean monk saved his life and for 5 years, taught him all about cooking Joseon dishes. He is very grateful for that.
The Ming cook absolutely loves and honors his own country, but he will also not allow physical harm or underhanded tactics to affect the Korean cooks' chances. He respects them too much, and he wants to see their very best efforts, which is the same expectation he has of his own cooks.
He only wants the Ming to win if it's an absolutely fair and above-board contest.
I get SOOOOOOOOOOO frustrated with shows that are written so the characters KEEP ON, OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER, refusing to STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES, refusing to TALK TO EACH OTHER and refusing to CLEAR MISUNDERSTANDINGS UP.
In: **keeps seeing a tattoo in his visions that might be connected to the threat against Thap**
Also In: **refuses to tell anyone about the tattoo, thus HINDERING the investigation and PERPETUATING the threat against the person he supposedly loves**
In: **stands outside the hospital room of Thap (the person he supposedly loves) and overhears Thap's family saying he and Wan should get back together just because Wan donated some blood**
Also In: ** despite his RAGING abandonment issues and despite having fought SO HARD to overcome those and let Thap into his heart, decides NOT to walk into the hospital room to visit Thap as he's recovering from surgery, decides NOT to lay claim on his man so that the family and Wan all know Thap is taken, decides NOT to answer any of Thap's phone calls, decides NOT to stick around, instead choosing to go back to his house, pack up and leave.
This kind of repetitive and TIRESOME AF trope RUINS shows for me.
to answer your first question, (in the manhwa and drama) Jooha went through an accident which made it difficult…
Ah!! Thank you so much. The backstory from the manhwa helps a lot. It sounds like, rather than Siyeol having a crush on Jooha, he only feels guilty toward him.
And your translation of the dialogue from the scene I mentioned makes much more sense. I appreciate your help.
Ep 4 - I'm confused about a couple of things. Please clear some questions up for me.
My understanding of the relationships is as follows:
Manager Kyusung (aka Gyu Seong, according to MDL) is dating actor Jooha (aka Ju Ha, according to MDL)
Idol Siyeol has a crush on Jooha, but can't say anything.
Siyeol overhears Kyusung talking on the phone to someone named Na Aejoon, and misunderstands when he hears Kyusung say "I love you" to Na Aejoon. He thinks Kyusung is cheating, not realizing that Kyusung and Na Aejoon are just comfortable friends who can say that to each other without it being romantic. (EDIT: after watching Ep 5 - it turns out they're actual cousins, not just friends.)
Then suddenly, Kyusung dumps Jooha, who, very sad and upset, then calls Siyeol.
Siyeol is unhappy to know Jooha is hurting and drives to Kyusung's place to talk to him about why he broke up with Jooha.
But when he arrives, he sees a guy coming out of Kyusung's apartment and overhears Kyusung call the guy "Na Aejoon." He realizes it's the same Na Aejoon that Kyusung said "I love you" to on the phone.
So Siyeol mistakenly thinks he's witnessing the aftermath of Kyusung and Na Aejoon having been together. (EDIT: at this point in the story, Siyeol does not know that Kyusung and Na Aejoon are actually cousins.) So Siyeol thinks that's why Kyusung dumped Jooha.
After Na Aejoon walks away, Kyusung calls Siyeol, and Siyeol says "You can't do this to Jooha. WE can't do this to Jooha."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ FIRST QUESTION: Why does Siyeol say "WE can't do this to Jooha?" How is Siyeol doing anything to Jooha, in that situation? I don't get that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Then Siyeol decides to get revenge by using Na Aejoon because he mistakenly thinks Na Aejoon is the reason Kyusung dumped Jooha.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SECOND QUESTION: Why does Siyeol's internal dialogue then say "Jooha. I'll let you experience the same feeling of betrayal. I'll make you feel more pain?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought Siyeol had a crush on Jooha, and even if they weren't together, he wanted Jooha to be happy (as he said in some earlier internal dialogue in another scene)? I thought he was upset with Kyusung for dumping Jooha?
Why would Siyeol suddenly want to hurt Jooha and cause him pain?
Shouldn't Siyeol be wanting to hurt Kyusung, instead? In deciding to get revenge by pursuing Na Aejoon, wouldn't he be trying to hurt Kyusung?
Did whomever translated the subs mean to say "Kyusung. I'll let you experience the same feeling of betrayal. I'll make you feel more pain," but mistakenly typed the name "Jooha" in that part?
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EDIT: Nevermind. I got my answer in the first few minutes of Ep 1. Good grief. Awful. And the dialogue - who WRITES that kind of crap? GEEZUS.
I literally don't understand why these particular so-called "actors" keep getting series offered to them.
In the scene where Prince Saenkaew and Sasin meet on the train platform (via the usual tired trope of the prince losing his balance and falling into the arms of Sasin (eye-roll) ), the prince is hardly wearing much lipstick / gloss. He looks great.
But in a slightly later scene, he looks like some company's commercial advertisement for lip gloss. SO much cotton-candy pink on his lips, it's ridiculous.
I see this problem in a lot of series, not just LiTM.
As it unfolded, the actual, real-life chemistry between the leads - not just between their characters - became stronger and stronger. I've seen a number of their off-screen interactions, interviews and fan meetings, and their chemistry is quite real. Physically, they are incredibly comfortable with each other, and that warmth and intimacy really translated to their screen performance.
I know Taiwanese actors rarely pair up as onscreen couples for multiple projects, but I really hope to see them again. They are so good together.
And when they DO take on a project, the chemistry they used to have is toned down to the point of almost nonexistence.
Especially considering all of that ^^^, I do admire them for sticking together as far as them supporting each other. They both refuse to work with any other acting partner.
But it just doesn't help their projects if the on-screen chemistry isn't there.
This is from a fan meeting in Taipei. I'm pretty sure it's fan service, but the intense kisses have a lot of ppl thinking they are dating IRL.
https://youtube.com/shorts/CACs_tDICRs?si=V6AbjdgTdsG3NS_r
And the special effects when they taste the food crack me up. Great, great stuff.
Rather, he is UPHOLDING his own sense of morality, fair play and honor, and I think he feels that he is also honoring the Ming as well.
The Korean monk saved his life and for 5 years, taught him all about cooking Joseon dishes. He is very grateful for that.
The Ming cook absolutely loves and honors his own country, but he will also not allow physical harm or underhanded tactics to affect the Korean cooks' chances. He respects them too much, and he wants to see their very best efforts, which is the same expectation he has of his own cooks.
He only wants the Ming to win if it's an absolutely fair and above-board contest.
In: **keeps seeing a tattoo in his visions that might be connected to the threat against Thap**
Also In: **refuses to tell anyone about the tattoo, thus HINDERING the investigation and PERPETUATING the threat against the person he supposedly loves**
In: **stands outside the hospital room of Thap (the person he supposedly loves) and overhears Thap's family saying he and Wan should get back together just because Wan donated some blood**
Also In: ** despite his RAGING abandonment issues and despite having fought SO HARD to overcome those and let Thap into his heart, decides NOT to walk into the hospital room to visit Thap as he's recovering from surgery, decides NOT to lay claim on his man so that the family and Wan all know Thap is taken, decides NOT to answer any of Thap's phone calls, decides NOT to stick around, instead choosing to go back to his house, pack up and leave.
This kind of repetitive and TIRESOME AF trope RUINS shows for me.
Victor and Veera.
Absolutely devastating. My heart hurts so much.
There's nothing else to say.
But....I don't think SSY knows HY is an Enigma yet, so that's part of it, too.
HY (the Enigma) ends up permanently marking SSY (S-class Alpha) to save his life. I get that part.
But why does HY then say "Be my exclusive Omega" to SSY?
Why didn't he say "Be my exclusive Alpha?"
Is that the correct dialogue (and if so, why).......or did the translator make a mistake when dubbing?
EDIT:
Nevermind, I just realized the reason HY said that. He hasn't yet told SSY that he's an Enigma.
HY is still pretending to be an S-Class Alpha, which is why he "joked" about SSY being his "exclusive Omega."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mRWPq-W6r4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mRWPq-W6r4
And your translation of the dialogue from the scene I mentioned makes much more sense. I appreciate your help.
My understanding of the relationships is as follows:
Manager Kyusung (aka Gyu Seong, according to MDL) is dating actor Jooha (aka Ju Ha, according to MDL)
Idol Siyeol has a crush on Jooha, but can't say anything.
Siyeol overhears Kyusung talking on the phone to someone named Na Aejoon, and misunderstands when he hears Kyusung say "I love you" to Na Aejoon. He thinks Kyusung is cheating, not realizing that Kyusung and Na Aejoon are just comfortable friends who can say that to each other without it being romantic. (EDIT: after watching Ep 5 - it turns out they're actual cousins, not just friends.)
Then suddenly, Kyusung dumps Jooha, who, very sad and upset, then calls Siyeol.
Siyeol is unhappy to know Jooha is hurting and drives to Kyusung's place to talk to him about why he broke up with Jooha.
But when he arrives, he sees a guy coming out of Kyusung's apartment and overhears Kyusung call the guy "Na Aejoon." He realizes it's the same Na Aejoon that Kyusung said "I love you" to on the phone.
So Siyeol mistakenly thinks he's witnessing the aftermath of Kyusung and Na Aejoon having been together. (EDIT: at this point in the story, Siyeol does not know that Kyusung and Na Aejoon are actually cousins.) So Siyeol thinks that's why Kyusung dumped Jooha.
After Na Aejoon walks away, Kyusung calls Siyeol, and Siyeol says "You can't do this to Jooha. WE can't do this to Jooha."
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FIRST QUESTION: Why does Siyeol say "WE can't do this to Jooha?" How is Siyeol doing anything to Jooha, in that situation? I don't get that.
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Then Siyeol decides to get revenge by using Na Aejoon because he mistakenly thinks Na Aejoon is the reason Kyusung dumped Jooha.
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SECOND QUESTION: Why does Siyeol's internal dialogue then say "Jooha. I'll let you experience the same feeling of betrayal. I'll make you feel more pain?"
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I thought Siyeol had a crush on Jooha, and even if they weren't together, he wanted Jooha to be happy (as he said in some earlier internal dialogue in another scene)? I thought he was upset with Kyusung for dumping Jooha?
Why would Siyeol suddenly want to hurt Jooha and cause him pain?
Shouldn't Siyeol be wanting to hurt Kyusung, instead? In deciding to get revenge by pursuing Na Aejoon, wouldn't he be trying to hurt Kyusung?
Did whomever translated the subs mean to say "Kyusung. I'll let you experience the same feeling of betrayal. I'll make you feel more pain," but mistakenly typed the name "Jooha" in that part?
Please help me understand, thanks.
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