John Hart

Indeed. But you see it, right? It's so comical I wonder if it was intentional.

Is it worth watching to the end? Yes.

Wallace was worth the wait.

So they have a BIG argument in the cave. I think he tells her to beat it. She stomps off crying. He then meets her at a peak later, realizing he can't be without her. WOW

Her arc was to not dive in so deep so fast. To be less about 'being in love' and more about feeling loved

She's an artist. At shoplifting.

Not long after I completed WISH, Netflix offered THE SANDMAN. It's a fun series (based on the classic graphic novels) but they took liberties. One was casting a black woman as DEATH, who just didn't have Death's vibe from the comic. I saw Gia Ge on YouTube doing some dancing and she looked just like Death, except Chinese. I'm like THAT'S the girl!

GOOD DOG! This discussion is longer than the dang series itself. It's like 4 hours, lol

I disagree. You're being vague here. You're saying Nature positions very young girls to get pregnant. Correct.

But then you imply that the social construct of "adulthood" or "being of age" goes against nature.

It's natural to fart. Society asks us not to casually fart when we like. Society does so for a reason. Just as --

-- society says a young lady should reach a certain age before any male should try to have sexual relations with her. Perhaps this series will explore/demonstrate why, or perhaps it will be creepy.

Unlike certain commenters, I can't tell yet.

This is true.

"Your notion of casting a present day 16 year old"

My notion? YOU are confused. I didn't produce this C-Drama. It is the 'notion' of the production to cast a "16 year old against a much old man".

A friendly reminder of when I said, "Well this raises an interesting question. If historically a girl was allowed to be romanced at 16-17 years of age in this period -- and with older men -- is it wrong to cast that age?"

See how I don't take a position? Instead I invite others to comment, as you have. Thank you for your comments.

Of this, " If historically a girl was allowed to be romanced at 16-17" understand I have no idea of the actual history, hence " You don’t even try to present in the fact that girls and women had NO CHOICE" doesn't apply.

I'll grant my wording was vague. I guess I was trying to say "if this was thing back then" if that helps you calm down a little.

History is rife with cruelty to all sorts. My avatar is based upon Pu Yi from THE LAST EMPEROR, a boy who was told he was King, trapped inside his Palace, separated from his Mother, was assigned a wife, was made powerless -- and was basically robbed of life.

Cruelty in ancient cultures is common, and so the idea of applying modern standards to history becomes tricky. Hence why I asked a question instead of taking a stand on it.

IF THIS HELPS -- I was absolutely disgusted by the countless Christian families in America that loved Brittney Spears -- who rose to fame as a minor playing a sexy minor singing, "I'm not that innocent." I literally looked around waiting for so many parents to 'get' what this crap was. Nobody cared, because she was 'hot' and 'blonde'.

Thank you

Interesting. Because no subtitles I haven't seen it yet, but what if it could be cut into a trilogy?

The Opening Theme reminds me of this one -- https://youtu.be/YnzgdBAKyJo

I agree, but my only problem with this series are the pop songs that come and go. They're not bad songs, and I'm confused why some are in English -- but this series feels too classy for emotionals to be spelled out in song.

I'm at the halfway point now. I have to share that it's now one of the faster paced C-Drama's I've ever seen, where stuff really happens instead of talking about what has happened, what is happening, and what might happen. All that talk is gone and things simply happen!

But I must say I'm losing my mind over Wallace. I have no clue how he fits into this story and the suspense is killing me! (Don't spoil, I'm just venting!)

I adore the FL, yet it's so hard to find her in projects worthy of her talent. Once you see her in RUYI'S ROYAL LOVE you need to see a lot more of her. She was fun in JOY OF LIFE but I want her to have global recognition yesterday.

It really improved then, yes. I was coming here to tell people to try doing something on Episode 10. Here's the recipe,even if you haven't seen this show at all --

1. Cue up the show to this moment, and mute the sound. Have it PAUSED
https://youtu.be/dgFNwP44Rn8?t=438

2. Go to this song and push play -- https://youtu.be/1DlWBOFvDJw

3. Hide that window and get ROSE back up and push PLAY fast!

THEMATIC SPOILER which is to say I believe I can explain why this series exists without spoiling the plot: relationships require emotional openness and sensitivity, like fine art.

Thank you. And what's ironic here is that C-Dramas can run longish and talky, and so it's up to the creators to edit as much as possible -- INSTEAD OF -- meet some episode requirement. So I have compassion for the viewers as well.

I just completed something called THE YOUTH MEMORIES and sometimes they went into way too much detail about running specific aspects of specific businesses. Americans would abandon American series that did this.

But I love the detail Chinese Dramas do with people. Instead of getting the best minute of a 20 minute talk, you get like like 5 full minutes. This makes romantic scenes feel more real. In Rose it's like you're watching her affairs in real time.

But if any show gets dull 3 episodes in a row, ditch the show and tell people. This will inspire Chinese Dramaland to EDIT!