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Replying to 2388 May 2, 2024
IAs I said before, no chinese drama is perfect nowadays ,I watch the "Journey to Love,at first,it starts with…
I watch costume dramas and historical dramas. If a series is based on a topic or a story, of course I look at the way the story is reflected to us. How was the story told, was it cursory, or was it done to give something to the audience? So is there a feeling? Does the story get through to the audience? Do viewers understand anything from this story? Does it teach a lesson? Does he make suggestions? Can we draw anything for ourselves from this story? If there is love and affection, do they reflect this to the audience?
I couldn't find anything I was looking for in this series. When I couldn't find it, I came across some sketchy things. I didn't get a full response. There was an inconsistency, and this continued from beginning to end. If only it were a little bit. I would say watchable. But I watched a series full of mistakes from beginning to end. If there was a love between the leads in the series, I couldn't perceive it. This feeling did not pass to me. Superficial glosses have been made. I wrote it for a long time, I don't want to repeat it here.
Thank you for your suggestion. This won't stop me from watching historical, costume Chinese dramas. I can watch other series with few errors. I'm tired of watching American and European TV series or movies. I also moved away from Korean dramas. Although Chinese TV series are fantastic in terms of subject matter, they are visually very colorful. I plan to continue watching. This was just a series with many faults among the ones I've watched so far. I evaluated my dislike in a very extreme way. I commented. I hope the director and screenwriter realized what they were doing when they watched it. Or they didn't watch it. They would get angry at themselves.
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Replying to 2388 May 1, 2024
IAs I said before, no chinese drama is perfect nowadays ,I watch the "Journey to Love,at first,it starts with…
I agree with your opinion that many TV series should be the same way. However, I barely tried to watch this series, but it made me sick. There shouldn't be so many mistakes and mistakes in a TV series. It's like they didn't pay attention to anything. It's like they edited it and never watched it. It's that bad. Behavior that does not match the other and what it brings. So it's like this in every episode. Even if there is one section or a few, you say okay. They made the same mistakes from beginning to end, leaving no plot, no scene, no plot, no play. It was a series that had no consistency whatsoever. I wish patience to the viewers. I think I will never watch such a disgraceful series again.
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On The Substitute Princess's Love May 1, 2024
I haven't watched such an ugly TV series lately. Maybe I've never watched it. I watched 15 episodes. All 15 of them are bad, worse than each other, meaningless, meaningless, impersonal, unfair, unfounded, insensitive, erroneous, wrong and inconsistent. So whatever you are looking for is in this series. There seems to be a story. From what I understand, the Prime Minister is saying that the prince whose daughter he was going to marry is dead, or he wants to have it killed himself. I didn't understand that. Then they say he died. Instead of his real daughter, he marries his daughter from his concubine to the dead prince. He wants his daughter to be buried with him, etc. The girl is running away. Then he meets the prince who is said to be dead. He is dressing his wound. It kind of saves. Then they realize that they are husband and wife, but the prince knows that the prime minister is against him, so he does not want the prime minister's daughter either. They also threaten the girl with her nanny. They say, "We'll kill your nanny and steal the prince's jade." Such events are developing. But it doesn't improve at all. First, the Prince says "I did not die in front of the king" and rips off the Prime Minister's hairpin, revealing his hair. This is kind of like a death sentence. He apologizes to the king, but the king doesn't even say what's going on, brother. The prince who did this walks away. Shouldn't the reason for this be asked? The prince supposedly has a crush on this prime minister and is looking for weaknesses in him. Drive the deficit. This time he wasn't letting the girl into his mansion. He felt sorry for his situation. He took it in. Even though the servants knew that she was a princess, they beat the princess at the instigation of the head maid. As if that wasn't enough. They locked it or something. They threatened. They committed all kinds of disgrace. The mansion has a butler. He has a lot of employees. Nobody knows or hears about it. The girl doesn't say either. It's as if he's accepting that his nanny will die. However, there are various aspects to this job. As a matter of fact, during the second fight, a servant gives the news, and she gives it so hard that you get swollen while watching it. Something like that. It's a complete disgrace. It takes courage to watch. This time our prince comes and beats the servants and drives them away, asking how you can beat the princess. However, except for the maid from the Shen mansion and the head maid. He gets the maid caned and sent to the Shen mansion. He says I will ask you about the head maid, take this away or something. Supposedly he will call to account. One episode later, you see this head maid wandering around. He defies the princess again. He is harassing. He's running out of words. This time they are interrogating him. He confesses everything. No one knows what happens to him after that. So why wasn't it done from the beginning? Then the stepmother who had these done appears. The Prime Minister supposedly does not interfere. But when he sees the result, he says oh good, kill him or something. They kill the girl's nanny. They are conspiring to kill the girl. They kidnap the girl. A festival for homes. The girl is already running away from the mansion on her own. We don't know why. Just like that. Something happens to him every time he escapes. No reason. Meaningless. Then they steal the jade from the hand of a traitor girl among the prince's soldiers. They give this to the prime minister's wife. It's unclear what they will do with it after stealing it. Supposedly they were going to use it against the prince. It's important for the prince, but I don't understand what it's important for them. They will probably save themselves with that jade. Will it ever be asked how you can save yourself with the jade you stole? As a matter of fact, their thefts never stopped. The prince went and raided the prime minister's house with the princess girl. He found the jade. He caned the Prime Minister's wife. They scolded the Prime Minister and returned home. If you could do this, why haven't you done it yet? Now they got the stick, but they continue to screw up. Nothing happens. Prince or king brother, this prime minister stole my jade. They kidnapped my wife. They beat me. They did it like this, there was no telling or punishing anything. Paso evil continues. They continue to watch. But there is no connection, no proper justification, reason, justification or logic in the events. The editing sucks. I mean, I don't know if it's because of the scriptwriter or if the director didn't convey it. It's a flawed series from start to finish. As I said, the prime minister, who did nothing, this time cooperates with the rebels of the opposing state and aims to kill the prince. So it helps. It supports. Likewise, his wife finds an acquaintance from the palace and makes a plan to inform the king that her stepdaughter, whom she married, is supposedly selling candy on the streets. The king and the queen mother are the subjects of this plan together. It's so simple. So what if he sold candy? A king asks what these candies are. Where did you buy it. Sir, our cook made it and we eat it. It was someone who made it, and that someone learned it from the current princess, who used to make and sell these candies on the streets. What's wrong with that. Who's this? Prince Jin's wife. Find him immediately, bring him in and arrest him, completely shut down the house of the prime minister who lied to us, and do what is necessary, says the king. For no reason. I couldn't make any sense of it. So this girl is being arrested for selling candy on the street? When the prince hears this, he wants to save the princess, they say stop, don't do it, it will backfire. Justice will be served, just wait. The princess is arrested, but nothing is done to the prime minister's mansion. From where? Again, for no reason. Because the series is wrong. Wrong.
I don't recommend you watch it. Don't get upset in vain.
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Replying to Say_do Apr 12, 2024
I think you are not seeing this through the lens of culture and time period, which is what the show is trying…
I agree with what you said. However, my words were not understood. But the author understood what I meant and gave me the answers in the 20th and 21st chapters. If you watched it, you saw it too. Justice was served. Unfortunately, what should have been done from the beginning was done later. Indeed, the author wanted to show us some things, he did not seek it in the logical field, he tried to show it with his own way of expression, but in the end he showed it to us. I'm glad that in the end, what was necessary was done. I complained from the beginning that these things did not happen. Now my words have found their place. Therefore, there is no need to dwell on this incident any further. Sorry for keeping you busy. I wish you a good time.
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Replying to cdramasfan Apr 11, 2024
I think all make sense, the daughter is described as a spoiled brat, she married the man of her own choosing with…
Yes
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Replying to Say_do Apr 11, 2024
I think you are not seeing this through the lens of culture and time period, which is what the show is trying…
You still think that I cannot distinguish between today and yesterday. You prefer not to get to the heart of the matter. I understand that.
Then let me give an example. The eldest female character and two sons of the Shen family. They were not relatives, just grown-up friends. One of the children was engaged. They canceled it. However, the children came and helped even though they were exiles. They didn't see that family as excommunicated people, but their daughter sees this and you call her NORMAL? Everyone was shy, but even the QUEEN MOTHER came to his funeral without hesitation. It is still impossible to understand your insistence on the same thing. We're talking about your daughter. He has an understandable excuse for being in a very bad situation. She wants to be respected and loved. I understand. Well, is this a reason for him to insult his mother, attack her, and play with the chastity of others? Why doesn't he behave more appropriately towards his family? If not, how can his family show him good behavior? Why did they even exhibit such a lame behavior? I don't even understand that.
I am very sorry to say that this is a sign that you do not understand the situation. Your perspective is different. That's why I don't want to extend it. In my opinion it is wrong. For no reason, even if we assume that your reason is normal, the reaction is wrong, and as a result, after the grandmother dies, the eldest daughter of the house kicks this woman out. It's embarrassing. She disowns him. She orders him not to be allowed into their house. So it means it's happening.
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Replying to Say_do Apr 11, 2024
I think you are not seeing this through the lens of culture and time period, which is what the show is trying…
If you pay attention. I said that I found the series very excellent and I was also enjoying watching it. However, I did not find his insistence on wanting a maid reasonable. The reason I can't find it is because he has a maid. He takes one of his servants and makes him a concubine. There is no point in asking what will happen to a maid. Let's say he saw the maid. Where did he see it? I don't remember him saying he saw it. I guess they found out she made those cakes. They tried to take that maid as a concubine for money. This must be the reason why you insisted on that maid. However, it was not announced. I do not know.
Latter; If you think this is very logical, the man is spoiled and wants this and that's maid, he has a lot of concubines. If you look at it logically, this guy is like a hungry chicken. He needs a living. So he's a money-grubbing person. He's looking for money. He is not a very rich or well-off person. A servant from a fallen family is left begging. He beats his wife. This includes his wife and her husband. When his family was exiled, he never called his family, did not ask, did not ask if there was anything he needed. He saw that the family bought a house, a shop, they tended to fix themselves, he came home and directly blamed his mother and said, "Give me a maid." Where do you think the logic is in this?
Shouldn't he have asked about his mother's well-being first? Shouldn't he have asked "Do you have any needs?" Wouldn't it be more logical if you first offered support and then made a request?
What should have happened then? So what would logic require? If the person was spoiled, disrespectful to their mother, acted rudely, and never called the family, they should be fired. She should have said, "Go away, I don't have a daughter like you," without being crushed or embarrassed by them.
He cannot resist his daughter, who is on display here. The logic of whatever I do is to please him. However, the other person doesn't even question your illness. Mom doesn't say what's wrong. He attacks directly. Others are watching. Finally came to what I said. Mother died. The man who set up the plot in response to that concubine's unchastity was caught. It turned out that the person who did this was his daughter. After that, our daughter, the head of the house, kicked him out. She disgraced. So now he can be fired. Then why isn't he fired and why is he causing such a problem? If it is given, there should be a logical reason for it, but there is not. Not for me. The justification you give is simple and inconsistent. A reason that does not fit the conclusion.
-I want your maid.
- Hiccup. I can't give it. They are already free. Oh, what can we do?
-Okay, then you are dead, your concubine has lost her chastity. I displayed the underwear of the eldest daughter of the house. She can't find it in her husband anymore. He can't get married either. Finished.
Was it supposed to be like this???
However, I agree that the requirements of that time were complied with. Your explanation was also very good. It was satisfying. My different point of view is, wasn't there any respect for parents at that time? Why didn't he ask for his mother's well-being or call her, but came directly to ask for a maid? That I find this unreasonable. Come on, this was illogical. I do not think it is right for the other party to complain about all these actions, and I think that the reason does not lead to the result. Even at that time, when respect for elders was at the forefront, could the reckless actions of a daughter or groom be approved? That's how that woman was fired after the grandmother died in the 20th episode. The causes were found. So it's happening. It looks like there will be more to come. Enjoy watching.
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Replying to cdramasfan Apr 11, 2024
I think all make sense, the daughter is described as a spoiled brat, she married the man of her own choosing with…
Thank you very much for your interest.
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Replying to cdramasfan Apr 11, 2024
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I think all make sense, the daughter is described as a spoiled brat, she married the man of her own choosing with…
I understand very well. What I don't understand is how they present this as a reason and go so far as to cause the death of the grandmother, accuse another concubine of unchastity with a conspiracy, and go as far as stealing a woman's underwear. If it was such a simple event, why did it take this long? It was an effect without a reason. That's why I said there was an illogicality.
If it's about a maid, she should take her own maid and make her a concubine. It's very easy for them too. But it seemed a bit inconsistent to me that he was being forced to ask for someone else's maid. It would have made more sense to me if he wanted to marry one of the other women there, not the maid. Because you have it. If you want it from someone else, there is an ulterior motive. Instead of waking up and fainting at the first request, they should be put in their place. They should have been kicked out of that house, slapping their teeth. It's too exaggerated.
Also, this woman is one of your grandmother's daughters. When the family is exiled, she does not call the family and ask if there is anything she needs. Then he sees that they bought a house, a shop, started trading, and they immediately knock on the grandmother's door and demand a maid. No asking how are you mom, are you okay, do you need anything? Give me a maid. I will make a concubine for my husband. Otherwise my husband will beat me. He will look down on it. There is a compulsion here. There is an unreasonable compulsion. There is infinity. If I say this makes sense. Then I would call the reaction irrational.
Why do you listen to these people? Why don't you ask where you have been until now? Hey groom, you want a maid from me, but you never knocked on my door, you didn't help me in my difficult day. You didn't support me. Now why should I give you my maid? I don't. He should have said get out of my house.
However, they were so oppressed and depressed that they acted as if they could find a solution no matter what they did. The grandmother was supposedly thinking of her daughter. But your daughter is screaming at you. It sticks to your collar. Even though you are sick, it makes you worse. What kind of logic does this make, for God's sake? He should have been fired immediately. He should not have been given a face. The male staff at the door should have been told not to bring this inside. Every time they say, "Sir, he crushed me." For some reason, the door staff probably don't stay still either. It didn't work for me.
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Replying to Chen Lu Apr 11, 2024
It's based on a book ;-) Not everything is the idea of the directors or the screen writer.
thanks a lot.
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Replying to Chen Lu Apr 10, 2024
Title Blossoms in Adversity Spoiler
It's based on a book ;-) Not everything is the idea of the directors or the screen writer.
Here's the real answer. Thank you.
Then I think the author of the book simplified the issue. Starting from a very simple reality, I found his reason for wanting a concubine and all the negativity it brought unreasonable. What he wants is a maid. If you want a servant concubine, there is one in your mansion too. It was not appropriate for them to go so far as to cause the grandmother's death and to conspire, to accuse one person of indecency, and to go so far as to steal another person's underwear. In other words, there is no cause-effect relationship. The author's reasoning is simple.
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Replying to cdramasfan Apr 10, 2024
I think all make sense, the daughter is described as a spoiled brat, she married the man of her own choosing with…
What I want to say is this: They kept the reason low. What is it, sir, the Hua family should give us one of their servants. Let her be my concubine. Reason? There's no reason. My heart wanted it that way. I don't want the woman I took from the Hua family. Let him give me a concubine so that I can ask for her. For God's sake, what kind of reason is this? His mother dies because of him. This cause and effect didn't make any sense to me. Not to mention the events. He accused another woman of unchastity, they attempted to steal the other's underwear, an attempt to commit adultery. Isn't it too much? I think it's a logical error. If he wants a concubine so badly, let him take one from his own servants. I never found any of your statements reasonable, including yours. It is for no reason and brings with it many events. It did not suit the beauty, credibility, emotionality and reality of the series.
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On Blossoms in Adversity Apr 10, 2024
While the series was going extremely well, the incident in the 18th and 19th episodes of the series when Hua Jing, the married daughter of the house, asked for a maid from the Hua family as a concubine for her husband, ruined the series. The reason is this: I have a bad relationship with my husband, I want to silence him by taking a concubine. I want him to get over his tension. I want the maid who is the cook of the Hua family. He says give it to me. He buys goods from the market. They already say that servants are free. But he doesn't want to. The man is waiting for a woman to be given to him in the corner of his head. This man already had several concubines. Now with what logic does he want a concubine? No reason. He insists that his family give it to him. If the maid wants a concubine, she has her own maids in her mansions. He can easily make someone his concubine. I wonder if the main thing is to disturb the family. While they were escaping from an excommunicated family. Now, when this family started to recover, did they decide to destroy the family again? I think the reaction in the Hua family is very mild. Even though she does so much, women are given too much tolerance. I couldn't solve this illogicality. This irrationality cast a negative eye on the series. In other words, turning the issue of asking for a maid into such an exaggeration, requesting a maid from someone else as a concubine while they have their own maids, and insisting on even going to a lot of unseemly problems did not suit the series.
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