Kathryn_51

It's pretty simple - the cousin is evil and he wants to inherit the Chail Corporation - he wants power/money.

She eventually became a Royal Concubine - which probably means she went thru rigorous training in speaking, proper royal etiquette, etc.

I don't think parents killing parents is very relative to the modern era. Mon-do is a "distant" cousin and we already know that he is evil, no need to drag the parents into it.

However, in the Joseon era [future spoiler] he did kill his eldest brother (the Crown Prince) in a fire.

Please mark this as Spoiler. 😊

I enjoyed it and binged over 2 days. , although I FF'd thru some of the tense, comic-horror moments.

ML is probably the most powerful. No real romance (as in "I love you"), but definitely a connection between the two leads. Ending implies that a Season2 is possible.

Thanks for sharing - should be fun. I don't do Tik-tok or IG, but thanks to you, I searched and found it on X:

https://x.com/SBSNOW/status/2057627505494769933

She was charged with several crimes, including the "attempt" to kill the prince and the Queen. After she died, the king said something like: "now that the pus is removed, no need to cut off the leg." But I've watched enough kdramas (altho not as many as you) to know that some lines are throw-away/meaningless. I do think the newscast mentioned above IS important since it was mentioned during celestial events mirroring 300 years ago. And all 3 statements - the "message", the "story" and the "meaning" refer to a man and were said when Se-gye was listening.

I believe the critical words (in the news broadcast) were that the "story" (i.e. myth, fable) of the sun-shower was "message from the heart that was never conveyed ." My bet - purely speculation - is that the Joseon ML never told her he loved her, thus it would be wrong if he were to feel betrayed.

Correct. The historical (real) Jang Huibin was accused of plotting against the Queen (after Jang was demoted back to Royal Concubine status and the Queen was reinstated), using witchcraft and in addition, her family was part of major political faction battling for influence. Over 1000 people (Jang's family, her courtiers and palace staff, etc) were killed in the purge.

I don't think we'll see that level in this drama because fiction and reality diverge in some critical areas.

I started this last night to fill in the week before My Royal Nemesis. Thought I would watch 1-2 episodes before going to bed. Three hours later (midnight) I was well into watching Ep. 5 before calling it quits for the night. I usually don't mind waiting a week to watch the next episodes, but in this drama I HAD to keep watching the next episode.

Which is why I stopped in the middle of Ep. 5, lol.

Before that scene, the shaman told her "In order to live, Your Highness, you must die." My subs said she was thinking "perhaps this is. . ." [no "why"] and I thought she was thinking that either she had to die in order to live again with the Joseon ML or she had to die in order to save him.

Also, at the same time, it beings to rain, the sun disappears but also shines, and the red comet appears in the sky. The exact same facts in the modern era near the end of Ep. 1 I posted that scene above.

Just re-watched the last part of Episode 1 and there is a major clue as to what happened long ago. In the modern era, there is a major, unexpected "sun-shower" - rain while the sun is shining. Se-gye is listening to the radio newscast that relates the following:

[paraphrase] It's a message from the heart that was never conveyed [that's the significant part], A sun-shower is the tears a cloud sheds when the fox it loved married a tiger. But. . the true meaning is actually different. . .it's a blessing from a loved one wishing you happiness in your new life even when they cry.

At the same time, there are newspaper articles mentioning the "comet for the 1st time in 300 years." Dam-shin is shivering in the cold, icy shower, wondering if her current situation (neither hell nor heaven) is her punishment - but then she decides that she's alive and she decides to seek out Se-gye.

Pure speculation, but I don't think it's a given that Joseon ML and Dan-shim became lovers. But he loved her and wished her well when the Crown Prince/King took her for his Royal Concubine.

SBS is usually 12 hours before the broadcast (Friday morning KST). It's late afternoon Thursday in my time zone.

Probably the wrong term. How about sageuk misery? The drama shows snippets of life during Joseon times - they were not pleasant but no scenes of bloody violence if that's what concerns you.

Eye mask for one. Also, as a lowly maid, she isn't supposed to look into his face - he told her to look up (so that he could see HER), but she still kept her eyes cast down. On their last visit, there was a screen between the two of them.

writer is walking a tight-rope because viewers love the show because of the humor and the characters (and, of course, the acting is top-notch). But if they tread too far into Joseon violence, I'll be dropping my rating.

Unless we learn something different later on, she never married the King/Crown Prince - she became his highest rank concubine - presumably after she her relationship with the Grand Prince. Her title was "Huibin" - "beautiful high rank concubine".

As Huibin, she had her own set of maids and ladies-in-waiting. It was very prestigious and she ranked above the noble-born concubines.

Se-gey's mother was an actress - I'm not sure we know much more about her or his father, but apparently they were married since he has the same last name as Grandpa. But like Dam-shin, she was considered "lower" status. When grandfather heard that Se-gey might be dating someone in the media, he immediately thought of someone in an elite role - news broadcaster, producer.

Mondo said something like "the only thing you inherited from you mother is your good looks". It was very insulting. I hope we get a better backstory on the grandson/cousin backstory and SOON. Who were their parents? Are they all dead? And, hopefully, the answer is NOT that Se-gey's folks died in a car accident that he feels guilty about causing!!!!! That trope has SAILED.

I usually hesitate to compare/contrast dramas because everyone has their own perspective/taste/filter.

But damn, CP did not deliver on all the hype. So much $$$ spent to promote a very routine romance (commoner/royalty, chaebol/commoner) with plot holes strewn from start to finish.

Having said this, Royal Nemesis could very well travel the same path if they rely too much on the old trope of soul mates, destiny, fate, whatever which always devolves into besotted fools. If they don't maintain their strength, competence, intelligence then I'll be disappointed. I'm ready for all the s**t coming their way, but please don't make them weak!!!

I apologize if my write-up was misleading. Jang was named Huibin at the time she became a favored concubine. Bin=concubine; hui=beautiful. (this is according to Wikipedia). The Queen was banished at one point so it was at that point that Jang was elevated to Royal Queen Consort (or whatever the title was back then) because of her son. But there were political factions/families fighting for power and eventually the King grew weary of Jang's family (commoner, not noble). She was demoted and eventually executed, along with over 1000 courtiers, family members and associates. Very ugly times. Here is the Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Noble_Consort_Huibin_Jang