Kathryn_51

**so that's why everytime BY emerges we see MD ends up hurting her eyes, blindfolded bec, like in that scene when was absorbing energy that much energy hurts naksu eyes, **

Well, that makes sense and since I've been focused on JBY's soul and energy/power, I haven't thought much about the physical. But a major element of AoS is The Eyes. It's in the posters, the title sequence, Jang Uk and MD's first meet-up.

I read the same theory somewhere - maybe it's accurate. But perhaps when the body's eyes are closed, Jin Bu-Yeon's extraordinary sense of energy becomes far more consequential - no visual distractions??? So many possible hints/clues to try and sort through.

It was an amazing scene and Jung So Min was mesmerizing. I know quite a bit was CGI and the music - but She Was Awesome!.

Well, I'm Team Jin Bu-yeon and so I think she does everything, LOL. 😂😂😂 He called out to "Master" and she said "Jang Uk". I don't think they heard each other - they SENSED each other. Whether it gave him the courage to force through the illusion or it was JBY's amazing energy we may never know. They will team up in the future to deal with the ice stone chaos, so maybe it was a team effort today. Or not. 😊

Today we got a view of how Jung So Min will play the amazingly powerful, divine like Jin Bu Yeon without the blindfold. I want to see much, much more of these scenes (esp. if JSM isn't returning. )

Thanks for the explanation - I'm afraid I'm not a big CP/JU fan so didn't pay attention early this morning.

Thank you. when I update the Character Description List (in the DiscussionT opic section) do you think I should refer to her as a separate character? Or, the character that inhabits Queen Seo Ha-sun's body?

Jin Bu-yeon was amazing today! First she sucked the energy out of the miserable miscreant Eunoch and killed the SOB and she ALSO used her energy to break the barrier around Jang Uk, enabling him to escape. Finally, when her finger dipped into the constellation water, a constellation appeared - I wish they told us which constellation it was; I looked for the King Star together with the Big Dipper and didn't see it but I imagine folks on Twitter are busy analyzing it. Bravo JBY.

Just wondering if I should refer to her as a separate character or as the soul-shifter that inhabits the Queen's body. I should probably spend my time re-aligning the character names with the Netflix spelling - the original names were from tvN and Han Cinema and many are spelled differently than Netflix. (Example Jang Wook vs Jang Uk)

I read the subtitle as the "Cho" family that is close to UK. Naksu's father was Cho Choong - and he was apparently close to Jang Kang.

Did I understand correctly that the jade pendants themselves attract each other (like magnets) and not the "souls" of whomever is carrying them. Seems to be useful if one is amongst soul-shifters on every block.

LOL, but I've been thinking about him as I begin to do my weekly update of the Character Descriptions. Just what is his purpose long term??? I'm beginning to fear for Sang Ho. I don't think he is Chisu - Jim Mu's henchman was able to at least stalemate him. Jim Mu says he wants to find a mage w/in Songrim to use for soul shifting.

I💕💕 him with Yoon-ok

Meanwhile, I'm trying to figure out how to identify the soul shifter Shaman lady.

that scene had several take-aways - one is that Jin Mu now knows that Do-ju is Park Jin's BIG weakness.

Go to the link - it's very long. If I recall correctly, there is one belief that a soul can be "stolen".

After wondering what might have happened between Jang Kang, Mama Jin and "baby" JBY, I dipped my toe into the topic of "souls" (haha - Wiki to the rescue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul#Zoroastrianism )
and it looks like whatever the Hong Sisters have written w/r/t souls can be justified by various religions, philosophies, spiritual beliefs

Can multiple souls inhabit one body? Check
Does a soul come into existence only at birth? Check
Does a soul come into existence at conception? Check
Can a soul exist outside a living body? Check - altho a bit more complicated (as in, only when the body is asleep according to one spiritual belief)
Does a soul have only "one" state? Check
Is a soul a combination of many parts? Check (has it's own term: "soul dualism")
Do plants have souls? Do animals have souls? Check and Check (Gwiju!)

The one thing that isn't really discussed much is the concept of soul shifting!!!

Thus, if the Hong Sisters can come up with that one out of essentially thin air, then anything else is possible.

I continue to suspect that Naksu's real body is on ice somewhere in Cheonbugwan. Together with Gil-ju's body.

Another strange thing: Jin Mu believed that Nasku's soul had shifted into the courtesan's body and he asked Gil-ju if he had thrown the courtesan's body into Lake G. Instead, Gil-Mu burned it. At the time, it didn't make much sense for Gil-ju to do it (although he knew Naksu's soul wasn't in that body).

Does Jin Mu have the ability to retrieve bodies from Lake G and restore their souls? Is he planning to do that with the body that he believes contains Naksu's soul?

Whhhooaaa. . . .I missed the part about a "male" shaman residing in her body. I need to go back and watch that. Especially since soul-shifting is most successful if same age/gender/etc.

Agree about the surprise of JBY's birth - but it further confirms why her powers are so great (the Great Soul) and that her birth was "blessed". Is it too much to ask that Jung So Min be the face of Jin Bu-yeon - if only for a couple of episodes??? So far, we only see her as Mu-deok w/the blindfold.

I think it's clear that Jang Uk and JBY' are destined work together to "deal with the chaos of the ice stone". Both of them had unusual constellations on their birth dates and both of their fates are twisted by the "alchemy of souls". Based on comments in Ep. 12, I wouldn't be surprised if people start looking for "Naksu"s star chart - unless Jin Mu has changed it.

As far as we know, Naksu was born before the ice stone was unsealed by Jang Kang, and therefor her destiny wouldn't be as specific as the other two - but estimates of birthdates is guesswork at this point.

So, can we conclude that Fake Queen knows how to collect the Soul Ejector (powder) when it changes form and then "manufacture" devices but she doesn't know how to cast spells? The eunuch seemed to mock her for her shaman tricks. It still requires mage power (like Jin Mu, Gil-ju, Naksu) to actually do the soul shifting spell???

Yes - when do we get to finally see the Cho-yeon/MD scene?

Is Choi Ji-ho the shaman/Fake Queen? I didn't catch her name. But the eunuch said something about "her [the shaman] sibling" at Jinyowon. I'm assuming it is Papa Jin since we saw him in action in Ep. 11 with So-i.
We don't know the birth/family name of Papa Jin since males take on the name of the female line. So, he is either a Choi by birth or after the ice stone was unsealed 10 years ago, he soul-shifted into Papa Jin's body.

Well, that was my assumption - I'm not an expert on Korean customs but Master Lee said something about someone in the Jang household being related to a Cho - who was also apparently close to Jang Kang?