Kathryn_51

I did do a repost a couple of hours ago. 😊 But this forum is on fire today with most people coming only to whine and complain. Bunch of cry-babies, lol.

Try scrolling down - but I might repost again. I added that I think the writer is doing exactly what the memory post indicated- subconscious (today they showed her having a dream of a past event while in the hospital), physical/sensory, things that are triggered. She's not "falling in love again" - she prayed that she would be able to cherish memories of being loved and loving others.

I might repost again after things calm down.

She would have been only about 1-2 weeks pregnant at the time. Ten days is pretty much the earliest you can test. And you would need to specifically test for pregnancy - it wouldn't show up in standard blood work.

Did everyone miss the hints that Hae-in is pregnant??

Feeling nauseus? I mean, writer-nim is laying it all out for us.

I don't think she knew before the medical procedure - she would have wanted to live if she knew. But we are now conception date late September and add 6-8 weeks and. . . . there you have it.

Nominally a mid-June due date, but baby needs to be born in May so twins - they come early. as a twin mom myself, I hope we get some fun scenes of Hyun-woo and Hae-in t coping with parenthood.

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two people will die and their names are Mad Moh and Eun-snake.

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The term is thrown around carelessly, but it commonly means "over-the-top" or preposterous, extreme plots. There are very few kdrama (including most rom coms) that don't include makjang plots devices - birth secrets, switched identities, blackmail., corporate revenge.

The type of makjang that I really hate is when a makjang moment occurs late in the drama for no reason other than to add a couple of episodes. For instance, a childhood connection is discovered in Episode 14 or birth secret divulged or switched identities. It's a cheat if there was no warning.

in Queen of Tears, EVERYTHING has been foreshadowed if the viewer was paying attention. For instance, we know that Eun-seong was an orphan - so it won't be a surprise if we find out who his father is (and, we may never find out). It was easy to predict that Mad Moh was Eun-seong's mother.

I love the show, but yes - it's a Korean drama written for Korean viewers, although Netflix poured money into it as well, so some of old-school crazy Korean personalities (the type you might see in a weekender: shrill mothers who hit their children) or toilet/poop jokes have thankfully been omitted.

Koreans love plots involving chaebol families ("Reborn Rich" - the 2nd highest rated kdrama); crazy marriage ("Word of the Married", the #1 kdrama!!); rich/poor families (Sky Castle #3). Queen of Tears has it all - but with pretty significant twists from the three I mentioned.

Because I don't like to see sad Hyun-woo? It didn't add anything to the over all plot although they did connect his words to her notebook, I guess. 😊

I was looking forward to coming today - thought folks would be happy that they didn't drag things out too long, but wow - Toxic Town. 😒😒😒

Lady Luck - the 4 leaf clover - saved the day.

Maybe it's because I've enjoyed the corporate intrigue, revenge plot, the family dynamics and team work, but this drama is exactly my cup of tea. Frankly, if it was just the romance, I probably would have dropped it long ago as I dropped so many romances this past year.

But as I always say, the world would be a boring place if everyone agreed on everything. 😊

This is a repost of mine from several days ago regarding memory loss. I think it was clear in Ep. 14 that Hae-in would suffer pretty severe memory loss of specific events, facts, dates, names (damage to the hippocampus). But don’t forget her prayer: “Please let me cherish these memories [of loving others and being loved] until my last breath.” Hyun-woo’s prayers were answered and I’m sure writer-nim will do the same for Hae-in.

Repost: MEMORY LOSS
A. Explicit Memory
1. Hippocampus: helps us remember facts, events, and experiences (long-term/short-term).
2. Cerebellum: procedural memories (bike-riding)
3. Amygdala: regulates fear and emotional memories
4. Neocortex: language; general knowledge (example: knowing that coffee provides an energy boost).
IMPORTANT: the brain’s ability to recognize faces is a function of many parts. That’s why it’s easier to recall faces than names. I guess this helps explain why Eun-seong is making the effort to resemble Hyun-woo
B. Implicit Memory: skills and habits without conscious effort (Example: Hae-in stroking her ring finger)
C. Subconscious: acts as a “storage” bank for memories, experiences, general thoughts and associations, emotional responses, sensory (example: perfume) triggering a memory or emotional response.

THEREFOR: Between the emotional memories, implicit memories and subconscious memories stored here and there within her brain, she will remember those that loved her. And those she loved.
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Ep. 15: (trying to avoid spoilers): I think writer-nim is following the science of memory - Hae-in isn't "falling in love again". Rather, her sub-conscious, the triggers that SHE created before her surgery (that little brainiac💕😎), her physical response to both Eun-Snake and Hyun-woo. Whether it is God, fate, or a tiny little four leaf clover , her prayers are being answered.

I've never watched any of her prior dramas (and I will never watch CLOY because of the ending), but from the very beginning the writer has been foreshadowing just about everything that came to pass. Hyun-woo coming to Hae-in's rescue time and time again - I will be shocked if he doesn't rescue her in Episode 16 with an extended hand.

I loved it but then I don't think the writing is bad and I don't watch just for lovey-dovey scenes, so take that into consideration.

Except for the prison scene, I loved the entire episode. 😊

All of the family members owned significant (2-5%) of stock in Queens Group, so that's why they were on the no-fly list.

I thought Episode 15 was great - I was afraid they would stretch out Hae-in's memory loss into Episode 16. Hated the prison scene, but at least it served a purpose when she was able to read her notebook.

There's nothing secret about it - it's been shown several times that he is working with Hyun-woo to destroy Eun-seong.

If you skipped all of the scenes involving the corporate battle then you missed the part about Uncle forming a company called "Ever H" (the "H" presumably for "Hong") = a company that was buying up shares of Queens Group as the stock price plummeted after Hae-in turned against Eun-seong at the press conference. He's been working with Hyun-woo all along - perhaps for years.

Eun-seong is the "General Partner" of the various major stockholders (some of which are shell companies) and they are unhappy that the stock is plummeting. Many of the Limited Partners want Uncle Beom-seok to take over as GP.

In the preview for Episode 16, there is a brief flashback to the time the Hong family visited the orphanage. I have been waiting and waiting for that flashback because I'm convinced Uncle Beom-seok was there (the man in glasses who rushed to Hae-in when she fell) and somehow we will learn about why Moh sent her son off to the United States a few months later.

Which ratings? They broke all tvN ratings. They broke CLOY ratings for Episode 14.

It will be hard to beat the current top 2: (i)"World of the Married" (something I've never heard of but I guess it is ultimate King Kong/Godzilla ratings King) and (2)" Reborn Rich'

If I am wrong, don't kill me, but according to the tvN schedule for Sunday, Episode 16 will be 1 hour, 40 minutes.

Episode 15 is 1 hour 30 minutes.

The first 10 minutes are always commercials so it's possible (but unlikely) that tvN will make viewers suffer through more than 10 minutes of commercials in the beginning.

In terms of Netflix release: it's usually 30 minutes after the drama ends.

So, Saturday, drama ends at 10:50 (KST)

Sunday, drama ends at 11:00 pm (KST).

One final weekend of me getting up at the crack of dawn to watch when Netflix releases. And it is worth every minute!