I didn’t compare the reason that they both died though because again both are within different circumstances. Xiaofeng did not kill herself in hoping that the male lead would do better, it goes deeper than that. She killed herself as a sacrifice to stop the war brewing between the two sides. It was so that she could be at peace and release her from the guilt that she felt. On the other hand, Sooho didn’t choose to kill himself, and was brutally killed by the greedy corrupted.
And again, my original post did not compare the context of why both characters had died. GMP only served as a device for me to further try to understand Sooho’s final wish for Youngro. The whole post was an interpretation of Sooho’s final wish, so I don’t know what gave you the idea that I was comparing both dramas.
Um, I didn't compare the two relationships??? And I did not even compare the two dramas. I merely raised a dialogue that was spoken by two separate characters towards the one that they love before they died and tried to analyze and understand the context of each since both spoke the same words but had completely different meanings and contexts associated with them.
I don't think you read my post properly, because nowhere in the post did I say that her killing herself would make him a better person but to punish him. GMP's ending was perfect and I don't think there was any other way they cold've ended it. Which is completely different from Snowdrop's ending because besides Sooho's death, there could've been other ways that it could've ended. Because again like you said both relationships are completely different and the dramas are completely different from each other, hence why there was no comparison to start with.
Ever since hearing Sooho tell Youngro the words, "You have to live. You have to live no matter what." I was left kind of puzzled by his last wish for her. For those who have watched Goodbye My Princess, that was also one of the last promises the fl made the ml make to her. This promise has two special meanings. It is saying that despite everything that he has done to her, she still loves him and wants him to continue living. However, this is also her way of punishing him. She wants him to continue to live, but to live without her, to feel the guilt and remorse for all of the things he has done. Hearing Sooho say this when he as well as all of us know every single thing Youngro has been through. She has nothing left to live for by the end of the drama. So why did he tell her to live?
And then it hit me after hearing his tape. Youngro is Sooho's Snowdrop. Her character is the essence of what the Snowdrop flower symbolizes. She was a flower that had bloomed inside his cold world. She had given him hope when he didn't really have anything to live for besides his sister. She had shown him compassion and had blown warmth onto his heart. She loved him and cared for him and showed him that happiness can be found even during the darkest of times. This is why he wanted her to live. Like how she had given him hope, Sooho had hope that Youngro would be able to continue living and find happiness again.
I feel it has no rewatch value, get what I mean? Maybe the first few EP. But other than that, nothing pretty to…
I think it has great rewatch value considering the multiple symbolism and foreshadowing throughout that could’ve been missed the first time. For a plot like this with so many characters, a second rewatch could help one take notice and understand another character that they didn’t during the first viewing.
We been telling the whole time! All the things we complained so far were the symtoms of the writing, the writer…
One of the most unsatisfying endings I've ever watched. Despite recognizing the flaws in the writing, I was still hopeful we would get a satisfying ending. How wrong I was.
Though unsatisfied with the ending, I gotta say that Sooho's death scene was one of the most tragic deaths I've ever witnessed. It left me emotionally scarred for sure.
If there was one thing this drama did right, it would be the soundtrack and scoring. So they better release the full album. It’s the least they could do.
Can I just that despite the trauma, that was the most unsatisfying ending ever??
Youngro suffered all the way until the end. Why is she alive? There was no closure for any of the relationships. Boon Ok just forgave Pi? What happened with the friends? Gwangtae?? Was Seolhee rich?? If Hyeryeong rich, why her mom need to be bribed?? Kangmoo and Hanna got their HE but it was so sudden? There was no build up. But I don’t want to complain because that Kangmoo and Hanna scene is the only thing keeping me sane rn.
Am I the only one who feels like Comrade Joo's character won't die?? I feel like the moments where we see his soft side were not only added to humanize his character but was to also show that his character does have empathy despite how stubborn, cruel, and hot-tempered he is. Depending on how the drama ends whether tragically or open-ended/happy, Comrade Joo will somehow make peace with Sooho, or at least come to an understanding for Sooho's predicament. Joo will then successfully escape back to NK and sort of help get NK get off of Sooho's trail? I don't have any ideas on how he would do this, and there is no doubt in my mind that Joo will always hate Sooho, but for some reason, I just feel like his character could do something that would help Sooho in someway whether big or small.
With the direction of Boon Ok’s character, rather than seeing her dying after making some huge sacrifice for redemption, I think she would survive. After seeing Youngro shunned away from everyone because of her, she seems to feel bad for Youngro, however, that still isn’t enough to make her repent on her actions. Boon Ok has been against Ms. Pi since the beginning of this drama, thinking of Pi as her worst enemy who is never on her side. Slowly she’s been finding out that Pi has been protecting her every time she fucks up, although she can’t seem to accept or believe this truth. It seems like a possible ending for Pi to sacrifice herself to save Boon Ok in the end, revealing the relationship they have for each other, which then leads to Boon Ok to repent on her actions.
First of all I don’t understand What will he gain by winning from killing his children What’s his point of…
Power? His character actually seems to heading towards a tragic path. With characters who yearn for power, they do everything they can and even sacrifice what is most dear to them in order to gain their power. But at the end, they are left alone and regret the sacrifices they’ve made, realizing that it was never worth it. He’ll likely suffer for the rest of his life.
After today’s episode, from what I was able to grasp without subs, if not a happy or bittersweet open ending, it is more likely for Youngro to die than Sooho.
Exhibit 1: In my previous theory about Youngro dying, I talked about one of the poster’s quote saying, “Confess now before it’s too late.” Why is this important? While everyone is guessing that Sooho will die based on the cassette tape, and thinking that Youngro will listen to it after he is gone, I think that it will actually play in a flashback with Sooho holding Youngro’s body or at her grave thinking back to the confession of his true feelings within that tape. He’ll regret not telling her himself and now it’s too late for him to tell her. Because to have Sooho die… isn’t that a bit too obvious?
Exhibit 2: Snowdrop hovering over Youngro in poster. Besides hope, innocence, and purity, Snowdrop is a flower that usually grows on graves. According to Victorian legend, it is considered bad luck to pick Snowdrops and use them inside the home since they are known as a sign of bad luck and death. In episode we clearly see a pot of Snowdrop used to cover Sooho’s blood inside Youngro’s dorm. Throughout the drama it can also be seen that Youngro is not the luckiest person and suffers every misfortune that came her way. This could be due to her being the one to receive all of the bad karma that came from her father’s evil deeds.
Exhibit 3: Youngro had nothing and no one to live for. Her father at this point seems to have abandoned her, she has no one left. No friends, no brother, no love, and no future (I’m assuming based on how little we see her study). There’s her grandma, but that’s not much to argue on considering that the woman hasn’t been mentioned at all except for when they talk about her rice cake shop. Anyway, Youngro has no one, all of the guilt piled on her will lead her to sacrifice herself. She has suffered too much and the only way for her to be at peace is through death (or to travel to a different country—most likely Germany, but that is in my happy ending theory). In this theory, she dies.
Exhibit 4: The 13 virgins theory. The fortune teller has been proven to be fake, and therefore his predictions would hold no weight or truth. But, this is the Sky Castle team and I still have faith that they don’t just add details with no meaning considering that this has been a reoccurring theme/topic throughout the drama. With Nam Taeil arrested, Ahn’s downfall is not far considering he was scammed such a large sum of money (and he’s an incompetent prick), Eun is the most likely candidate to become president. How will this happen? Like the fortune teller had predicted, the death of 13 virgins, and his daughter Youngro, will be one of them. It’s lonely at the top they say. You can’t attain power without making huge sacrifices, and what’s worse than losing both of your children due to your own greed?
Exhibit 5: Sooho’s resolution to survive. Sooho’s main goal from the beginning up until now was to survive and go back to his home country which paves a perfect path and lead for the writer to kill him. But again isn’t it too obvious? It is Youngro’s sacrifice that will help him achieve his goal. This clue ties into what I have for exhibit 6.
Exhibit 6: The deity will grant the wish of the one who is most desperate. Again fortune teller is a fraud, but nothing is said without reason. Maybe he actually is a fortune teller, but is first and foremost a spy, so there are some truths weaved into his lies. Before we get the fortune teller scene, we had a scene of Youngro inside the praying room praying with all of her might for the safety of everyone within the dorm and for Sooho to survive to be reunited with his sister and get to live a normal life. Then if that wasn’t enough, we get get another scene of Youngro desperately praying for the safety of her father who had just gotten shot. Notice how within both prayer scenes, not once was it ever mentioned that she had prayed for her own safety and survival…
Exhibit 7: A weak one, but looking at the writer’s past work, Bridal Mask, the fl was killed off in the final episode on the wedding day… How did she die? By sacrificing herself and jumping in front of a bullet for the ml. The drama I believe was also a male centered plot.
Please take this theory with a grain of salt. I’m sleep deprived, my brain is running wild after today’s episode and I need to brain dump. It’s been one hell of a journey with Snowdrop and no matter what the ending is tmrw, as long as it makes sense, I will be satisfied. Thank you for the journey everyone. I enjoyed the discussions I’ve had with you all. Until tmrw’s episoddes.
(My last question of the day) I know some of us are going to be experiencing Snowdrop withdrawal when it finishes,…
For me it would be Twenty Five Twenty One and Thirty-Nine! Kim Tae Ri and Son Yejin are two of my most favorite Korean actresses and both of these dramas both fall into my favorite genres. Honestly it feels like a dream! Never would I have thought I'd be watching the two of them simultaneously in a drama, considering that they both usually film movies. February truly is a blessing.
I've been craving for something that would give me old and nostalgic vibes and fencing is one of my favorite sports so I'm excited to see how it pans out for Twenty Five Twenty One. Friendship dramas are literally what I live for AND it's a woman centered cast!! I will never shut up about how we need more female centered dramas and Thirty-Nine has answered my prayers haha! Can't wait til the release of these two dramas.
As a viewer, do you feel Young Ro as a character is tragic? Do you feel bad for her?
I can feel like her character was written to be tragic. We're supposed to feel bad for her, and of course I do... But there's also something missing. Like you've mentioned before in our discussions, there are many holes to the drama that should be filled. As a character I like Youngro, but like I've always said her character suffers a lot due to being underdeveloped. If her character dies, I might shed a few tears depending on the execution, but I don't think that I would be devastated.
As for the love story, for what it is, which is a pure love story, I think that it's shown and told really well. But if it's viewed as an epic tragical romance, then it is lacking in many ways. The emotional build up, background between the two leads, as well as intimacy that would all play a part in their epic undying romance that would cause them to want to risk their lives for each other, is not quite there.
And again, my original post did not compare the context of why both characters had died. GMP only served as a device for me to further try to understand Sooho’s final wish for Youngro. The whole post was an interpretation of Sooho’s final wish, so I don’t know what gave you the idea that I was comparing both dramas.
I don't think you read my post properly, because nowhere in the post did I say that her killing herself would make him a better person but to punish him. GMP's ending was perfect and I don't think there was any other way they cold've ended it. Which is completely different from Snowdrop's ending because besides Sooho's death, there could've been other ways that it could've ended. Because again like you said both relationships are completely different and the dramas are completely different from each other, hence why there was no comparison to start with.
And then it hit me after hearing his tape. Youngro is Sooho's Snowdrop. Her character is the essence of what the Snowdrop flower symbolizes. She was a flower that had bloomed inside his cold world. She had given him hope when he didn't really have anything to live for besides his sister. She had shown him compassion and had blown warmth onto his heart. She loved him and cared for him and showed him that happiness can be found even during the darkest of times. This is why he wanted her to live. Like how she had given him hope, Sooho had hope that Youngro would be able to continue living and find happiness again.
Youngro suffered all the way until the end. Why is she alive? There was no closure for any of the relationships. Boon Ok just forgave Pi? What happened with the friends? Gwangtae?? Was Seolhee rich?? If Hyeryeong rich, why her mom need to be bribed?? Kangmoo and Hanna got their HE but it was so sudden? There was no build up. But I don’t want to complain because that Kangmoo and Hanna scene is the only thing keeping me sane rn.
Exhibit 1: In my previous theory about Youngro dying, I talked about one of the poster’s quote saying, “Confess now before it’s too late.” Why is this important? While everyone is guessing that Sooho will die based on the cassette tape, and thinking that Youngro will listen to it after he is gone, I think that it will actually play in a flashback with Sooho holding Youngro’s body or at her grave thinking back to the confession of his true feelings within that tape. He’ll regret not telling her himself and now it’s too late for him to tell her. Because to have Sooho die… isn’t that a bit too obvious?
Exhibit 2: Snowdrop hovering over Youngro in poster. Besides hope, innocence, and purity, Snowdrop is a flower that usually grows on graves. According to Victorian legend, it is considered bad luck to pick Snowdrops and use them inside the home since they are known as a sign of bad luck and death. In episode we clearly see a pot of Snowdrop used to cover Sooho’s blood inside Youngro’s dorm. Throughout the drama it can also be seen that Youngro is not the luckiest person and suffers every misfortune that came her way. This could be due to her being the one to receive all of the bad karma that came from her father’s evil deeds.
Exhibit 3: Youngro had nothing and no one to live for. Her father at this point seems to have abandoned her, she has no one left. No friends, no brother, no love, and no future (I’m assuming based on how little we see her study). There’s her grandma, but that’s not much to argue on considering that the woman hasn’t been mentioned at all except for when they talk about her rice cake shop. Anyway, Youngro has no one, all of the guilt piled on her will lead her to sacrifice herself. She has suffered too much and the only way for her to be at peace is through death (or to travel to a different country—most likely Germany, but that is in my happy ending theory). In this theory, she dies.
Exhibit 4: The 13 virgins theory. The fortune teller has been proven to be fake, and therefore his predictions would hold no weight or truth. But, this is the Sky Castle team and I still have faith that they don’t just add details with no meaning considering that this has been a reoccurring theme/topic throughout the drama. With Nam Taeil arrested, Ahn’s downfall is not far considering he was scammed such a large sum of money (and he’s an incompetent prick), Eun is the most likely candidate to become president. How will this happen? Like the fortune teller had predicted, the death of 13 virgins, and his daughter Youngro, will be one of them. It’s lonely at the top they say. You can’t attain power without making huge sacrifices, and what’s worse than losing both of your children due to your own greed?
Exhibit 5: Sooho’s resolution to survive. Sooho’s main goal from the beginning up until now was to survive and go back to his home country which paves a perfect path and lead for the writer to kill him. But again isn’t it too obvious? It is Youngro’s sacrifice that will help him achieve his goal. This clue ties into what I have for exhibit 6.
Exhibit 6: The deity will grant the wish of the one who is most desperate. Again fortune teller is a fraud, but nothing is said without reason. Maybe he actually is a fortune teller, but is first and foremost a spy, so there are some truths weaved into his lies. Before we get the fortune teller scene, we had a scene of Youngro inside the praying room praying with all of her might for the safety of everyone within the dorm and for Sooho to survive to be reunited with his sister and get to live a normal life. Then if that wasn’t enough, we get get another scene of Youngro desperately praying for the safety of her father who had just gotten shot. Notice how within both prayer scenes, not once was it ever mentioned that she had prayed for her own safety and survival…
Exhibit 7: A weak one, but looking at the writer’s past work, Bridal Mask, the fl was killed off in the final episode on the wedding day… How did she die? By sacrificing herself and jumping in front of a bullet for the ml. The drama I believe was also a male centered plot.
Please take this theory with a grain of salt. I’m sleep deprived, my brain is running wild after today’s episode and I need to brain dump. It’s been one hell of a journey with Snowdrop and no matter what the ending is tmrw, as long as it makes sense, I will be satisfied. Thank you for the journey everyone. I enjoyed the discussions I’ve had with you all. Until tmrw’s episoddes.
I've been craving for something that would give me old and nostalgic vibes and fencing is one of my favorite sports so I'm excited to see how it pans out for Twenty Five Twenty One. Friendship dramas are literally what I live for AND it's a woman centered cast!! I will never shut up about how we need more female centered dramas and Thirty-Nine has answered my prayers haha! Can't wait til the release of these two dramas.
As for the love story, for what it is, which is a pure love story, I think that it's shown and told really well. But if it's viewed as an epic tragical romance, then it is lacking in many ways. The emotional build up, background between the two leads, as well as intimacy that would all play a part in their epic undying romance that would cause them to want to risk their lives for each other, is not quite there.