I mean that sex is messy and things sometimes go wrong, so when a disabled 30-year-old virgin reacts poorly during an attempt to have sex and says something hurtful because she doesn't know how to navigate consent and communication, that's unpleasant, but it doesn't make her a demon. Chen Maidong was understandably upset, but he was able to understand her issues and accept her apology, which was totally reasonable.
It might have been "unforgivable" if Zhuang Jie had called him a rapist in front of other people, but their argument/misunderstanding happened and was resolved entirely in private. Get over it.
For me, Will love in Spring stands out in its portrayal of modern life. The chemistry between the lead actors…
Yeah, dude, totally, what this melancholic exploration of loneliness, the fragility of human connection, the transience of life and the power of love really needed was a serial killer subplot, or at the very least 6 episodes of a crazy ex creating stupid misunderstandings between the leads.
lmao
AND ALSO… there was plenty of conflict to drive the plot? Granted, it was between the main leads because of their conflicting views on life and their psychological issues and not between different members of a chaebol family fighting for control over the family corporation, so you may have missed it, but it was there from beginning to end and it was super exciting and beautifully resolved.
Ep 15 made me so angry.... I'm so glad they let SFL scold FL for her stupid behavior, otherwise I would have dropped…
I don’t think reacting poorly when someone tries to touch your prosthetic leg during your attempt to lose your virginity is best described as “stupid.” You may dislike Zhuang Jie for letting her insecurities about her disability and her inexperience with physical intimacy control her actions, but she didn’t do what she did because she’s a stupid person.
That explains it but doesn’t excuse her behavior. She could have told him before hand. Knee jerk reaction without…
I don't think my comment excuses ZJ or asks other people to forgive her, but at the same time some viewers' persistent grudge against her is bizarre. She hurt someone, felt remorse, apologized for it, and was forgiven. ZJ and CMD move on to the next stage of their relationship and so do we. The whole show is about the feelings of its protagonists, which are complex and evolve from episode to episode in response to their deepening connection. If you've started to dislike one of the main characters to the point of refusing to understand her, you're not going to get anything out of the remainder of the drama and may as well drop it now.
I was surprised to learn Zhuang Jie is still a virgin. I assumed she and Ji Tong had been in a sexual relationship in those 3 years she mentioned and the reason she called it one-sided/a non-relationship was that Ji Tong had been ashamed to date her in public and insisted on keeping it a secret. His clinginess certainly supported that conclusion IMO; it's rare for a slimeball like him to come all the way to a woman's hometown to beg her to take him back if they haven't even fucked yet!
But the fact she never had sex with anyone after that disastrous first attempt in university explains why ZJ reacted so poorly when CMD tried to do something she wasn't comfortable with in bed. A more experienced partner would have just stopped him and redirected his attention elsewhere or simply said "I'm not comfortable with you seeing my prosthesis yet," but ZJ panicked and physically threw him off.
It was a hurtful overreaction, but again, her lack of sexual experience explains it IMO. Physical intimacy is scary when you're not used to it and controlling the transition from flirting to kissing to actually having sex so that it doesn't happen too fast or get weird in the middle is not easy when you've never done it before.
So what's the endgame the fl has in mind? She doesn't want to leave shanghai but knows the ml wants a proper relationship...…
Well, she explained her "endgame" pretty clearly in one of her conversations with CMD. She wants to have a passionate love affair and then go back to Shanghai. ZJ doesn't think she needs to be in a relationship with someone for the rest of her life; she thinks a life like Madam Lin's, who seems fulfilled by her personal pursuits and the memory of the man she loved in her youth, would be quite nice and romantic. For ZJ, love is too unreliable and difficult to build one's life around, but the memory of a past flame could be a nice souvenir in old age.
So she's planning to love CMD while she can and then let the memory of their brief happiness together warm her heart in the future as she pursues professional and personal self-actualization in the big city.
We've known this is a romance drama from the start, so to us ZJ's determination to live a life without entanglements seems delusional and ridiculous, but she doesn't view her life as a romance drama. Her goal in life is to be independent, carefree and successful: all things she was told she couldn't be because of her disability. Changing her life for a man was not part of the plan until she fell for CMD. So it will take her a while to realize her idea of lasting happiness is starting to include CMD.
So well put.Am with you.There is a show called Fake it Till You Make it - also VERY adult feel to that .. Liked…
Fake It Till You Make It is one of the best modern romance cdramas! But WLIS is on a totally different level. If they keep up this level of quality for the rest of the show, it might become my favourite cdrama ever.
She told him...what she wants in the beginning itself and despite that he still wants a try. So at least be open…
No one is playing games. The fact you've now watched these two people circle around each other and discover new things to like every time they talk for 12 episodes and all you got out of it was the mistaken idea that Zhuang Jie is a flightly slut who's playing with a good man's feelings tells me you're wasting your time and need to stop watching immediately. Your misogyny is so deeply rooted it's rendered you incapable of honest reflection on art.
It might have been "unforgivable" if Zhuang Jie had called him a rapist in front of other people, but their argument/misunderstanding happened and was resolved entirely in private. Get over it.
lmao
AND ALSO… there was plenty of conflict to drive the plot? Granted, it was between the main leads because of their conflicting views on life and their psychological issues and not between different members of a chaebol family fighting for control over the family corporation, so you may have missed it, but it was there from beginning to end and it was super exciting and beautifully resolved.
But the fact she never had sex with anyone after that disastrous first attempt in university explains why ZJ reacted so poorly when CMD tried to do something she wasn't comfortable with in bed. A more experienced partner would have just stopped him and redirected his attention elsewhere or simply said "I'm not comfortable with you seeing my prosthesis yet," but ZJ panicked and physically threw him off.
It was a hurtful overreaction, but again, her lack of sexual experience explains it IMO. Physical intimacy is scary when you're not used to it and controlling the transition from flirting to kissing to actually having sex so that it doesn't happen too fast or get weird in the middle is not easy when you've never done it before.
So she's planning to love CMD while she can and then let the memory of their brief happiness together warm her heart in the future as she pursues professional and personal self-actualization in the big city.
We've known this is a romance drama from the start, so to us ZJ's determination to live a life without entanglements seems delusional and ridiculous, but she doesn't view her life as a romance drama. Her goal in life is to be independent, carefree and successful: all things she was told she couldn't be because of her disability. Changing her life for a man was not part of the plan until she fell for CMD. So it will take her a while to realize her idea of lasting happiness is starting to include CMD.