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Hmm, nowhere did I say he's the devil incarnate, and also yes, the romance is absolutely the main point of the drama. Check the poster, summary, genres & cast billing order if you don't believe me.

I had some sympathy for Minato in ep. 1, but he's really getting on my nerves with his stupid mind games in ep. 2.

The one thing I don't want that I'm scared may happen is the drama waiting for 10 episodes until Minato gets over his issues and officially allows Tsumugi to be with Sou in the last 20 minutes of the finale. Jdramas loooooove to resolve love triangles by having the third-wheel SML cling on and on, guilt-trip the FL into, like, getting engaged and then finally realise at the last possible moment that he's not going to be happy with her because she doesn't love him and tell her to go be with the ML.

I want Tsumugi to go after what she wants and fight for her love instead of staying in a lifeless relationship with Minato out of obligation until he dumps her (and is treated like a noble hero for it).

Also Tsumugi's brother needs to mind his own business. If I had a little brother who kept telling me my BF was too good for me and tried to tell me who to be in a relationship with, he'd be catching these hands. Go do your homework!

I don't think saying someone doesn't have the right body type to be convincing in a particular role is bodyshaming.

(I also don't agree with the OP because I'm sure there are some skinny first responders out there; it's a wide world! But their point is not a criticism of the actor.)

I don't think saying someone doesn't have the right body type to be convincing in a particular role is bodyshaming.

More like unserious.

She also said not to bother her because she's doing this for fun in her free time. Pestering her is unlikely to make the experience of subbing more fun for her, so I suggest people chill out.

Fansubs come out when they come out.

I'm 8 episodes in and while I was very impressed by the realistic and nuanced characterisation in this drama when I started it, it's getting harder and harder to keep going. I don't like that the drama follows Yukichi's journey instead of Takuro's when Yukichi is far less interesting and sympathetic to me. He's an emotionally repressed boomer who was a terrible father to his son for 20 years and a not-great husband, and now he feels bad that he's estranged from his only living family but isn't doing anything about it? I'm sorry, I don't care! All of his problems are of his own making, he's hurt Takuro immeasurably and he has a thousand cowardly rationalisations for not apologising and not doing the work to repair their relationship, so he deserves to suffer. While I want them to make up for Takuro's sake, since he clearly loves and misses his father, Yukichi is, again, not doing anything about it, so... why does the drama spend 80% of its time on his fruitless brooding sessions in his stupid café? His angst doesn't touch me.

Azu is a nuanced character and a pretty realistic and sympathetic portrayal of a troubled young woman that avoids falling into lazy clichés, gender stereotypes and moralising, but at the same time... she's not particularly likeable.

Basically, Takuro is the only main character I like and he gets the least amount of screen time. Also absolutely nothing happens! When a drama is 100% character development, 0% plot, the characters need to be engaging, but again, Yukichi's self-pity only makes me angry because he sits around all day diagnosing his own flaws only to decide he's being too harsh on himself (when he's not being harsh enough given all the shit he put Takuro and Megumi through!) and that there’s nothing he can do to change, and Azu's big baby emotions and self-absorption make me roll my eyes.

BTW, can I just say how stupid the whole ‘Takuro killed his mother’ thing becomes once you actually watch the flashback scene and realise she was shaking and pulling his arm and shouting in his face while he was driving? The accident was entirely her fault? Why does no one acknowledge this?

Uh, no, the genre is romantic melodrama, that's the whole purpose of the drama lol. The main characters used to be in love with each other and clearly still carry a lot of unresolved feelings (as evidenced by the fact they both cried when they saw each other!) and the fact they want to be able to communicate is not random.

Learning new methods of communication that can include more people in social life is clearly a good thing no matter who you are, but Tsumugi spent years wanting to talk to Sou (and to hear his voice again) and now that she's met him again and he's tried to rebuff her because he feels bad that they can no longer communicate the way they did before, instead of accepting that he wants nothing to do with her, she's going to hunt him down and initiate a conversation on his terms, and learn how to sign just so she can convince him to talk to her?

Those are some pretty deep emotions to be feeling toward your ex, I'll just say that lol. Most people don't want to talk to their exes enough to wait for them at a metro station multiple times after glimpsing them once from afar, let alone enough to enrol in language classes just to have another conversation after getting shut down once.

Uh, there will definitely be emotional infidelity (like, she's going to start learning sign language for her ex-boyfriend IN EPISODE TWO) and a messy breakup at a minimum.

I doubt there will be 'cheating' in the sense of scenes of physical intimacy pursued behind the FL's boyfriend's back, but clearly the main leads will have a deep emotional connection while she is still in a relationship.

Episode 1 was so good! I get the sense there will be a lot of pain in this drama, though... which is fine with me as long as we get a happy ending!

Thank you very much for the reply! I saw the answer in your Discord after I asked... Thanks again for subbing this drama! I loved the first episode.

Thank you very much for the quick subs! I downloaded the file, but I'm not sure where to find the raw version. What site should I get the video file from?

He also most resembles the child actor playing Yoonjae IMO.

That said, Baek Moongang could have easily reported his wife's death to the police and said he found an intruder going through his stuff when he got home and the intruder tried to flee and pushed BMG's wife to her death on his way out of the house. This claim would have been almost impossible to disprove. Instead, BMG decided to hide her body in a freezer, thus making himself look guilty and also making it impossible for the coroner to determine her time of death precisely and link it to the time window when there was an intruder in their house (assuming he was caught on CCTV somewhere nearby)... The lesson here is: don't conceal crimes you can easily pin on other people! RSJ is lucky BMG is not that smart.

Why the heck does Ryu Sungjoon put himself in a position to get framed for more and more murders every episode instead of clearing himself of suspicion for at least some of them? Every time he enters a room alone I know there's gonna be a dead body in there.

I think the facial expressions of the ‘nice’ software engineer guy and the sushi chef and the camera’s attention to them when Eunki asked about RSJ at the meeting with the jurors both suggest they know more about what’s going on than they let on. Is it possible they’re both from the facility?

I hope that's not the case because it would be contrived and unrealistic and I don't get the obsession with glorifying serial killers.

It's also obviously not going to happen.

Yeah, I also started thinking about that after I wrote my comment. It could be that the police chief and BMG only recognised the necklace because Jung Yoonjae came to the orphanage with it, but the other children didn’t necessarily know about it because they were all given tracksuit uniforms instead of their own clothes… but it’s not a very convincing argument. RSH knowing RSJ’s necklace is a big possibility that weakens my argument.

Sorry for the late reply, but illegal streaming sites tend to lift the first subs they can find because they're in a race to be the first to release a subbed version of whatever drama/movie. And if better subs appear later on, they don't bother to update them. It annoys me a lot too.

I think Sunghoon is doing it for Jung Yoonjae but doesn’t realise Jung Yoonjae is Sungjoon.