At first, I didnāt want to watch this drama because itās a gender-swap story without BL nuances. Iāve been…
Amazing perspective! Iāve only been watching BLs (or bromances) and I have been considering watching this show because of the plot and ādramaā is intriguing except for the love rival/triangle. The body switching reminds me a lot of āGodās Favorā (still need to watch but Iāve been putting it off) or even āThe Promise of the Soulā. I havenāt watched many dramas like that with a loving each other no matter the circumstance theme. Itās really romantic! Iāll probably binge this when the final episode comes out.
so does anybody know if heālol stay as a man ??? is there web series someone somebody read?/// lol I wanna know…
Itās adapted from a WEBTOON but from what Iāve seen the drama is quite different. More stakes and drama while the webcomic is lighthearted. The latest episode (56) really pulled a crazy twist after they kiss as men.
I have to learned a hard way sometimes to not trust MDL viewers rating š sometimes they gave low rating to…
Itās unfortunate this series is being rated so low but I am happy to see all the positive comments because it's a really amazing slice of life drama. I noticed too often that many will overlook the quality acting, plot, character development, relationship development, production, and soundtrack if thereās not overt sexualization. Even though there is chemistry and even kissing in this series, it's probably not as explicitly tasteless as some hoped. Now I donāt mind physical intimacy in dramas but when it becomes the main focus, it most often brings the quality of other aspects of the drama down. Such as the plot regressing to a ferry between NC scenes or the characters becoming one-dimensional. I just donāt see the appeal to those dramas as many other users on this site do. Itās why I now associate āBromanceā comments with āI should definitely watch thisā. Also, not to talk badly about the source material but I have to say that the writers on this drama did an excellent job expanding and improving on the story. To take such an explicitly shallow (plot-wise) manga and turn it into a top ten drama for me is absolutely amazing. I hope the same can be done with āMy Bias is Showingā.
Talking about censorship in WOH is wild... did you even watch it? They literally confess and flirt with each other…
Iāll definitely check it out! The first āChineseā BL I watched was Revenged Love and it was amazing at first until the āget them to sleep together and whenās the next time they sleep togetherā arc. The plot took a back seat and I just couldnāt get through it! I heard it gets better after but Iām definitely interested with these historical dramas and I heard the Chinese ones are the best out there.
Talking about censorship in WOH is wild... did you even watch it? They literally confess and flirt with each other…
Yeah one of my all time favorite Drama had at most one on screen kiss but the story and the loving interactions between the main leads was just so good. I only seen a few Chinese BLs and I am not one for historical dramas but they are really good and with some action! I like this one so far.
Talking about censorship in WOH is wild... did you even watch it? They literally confess and flirt with each other…
Iām starting to realize that ācensorshipā usually means tamed physical intimacy. I prefer the confessions/flitation, the little moments, over those intense intimacy scenes since most series would prioritize sensuality over plot. Even some āBromancesā to me are more romantic and entertaining. Canāt tell you how many BL dramas I dropped with pretty good kissing scenes but thereās also subpar acting, one dimensional characters, and a plot that takes the backseat to the intimate scenes.
Yeah some BLs are like that in the US. Just checked GagaOOLala and a Singapore BL I had never heard of before released today! I wonder why some of them are like that. Could be due to international rights or something.
Your perspective on sex is sadly twisted.Is there some reason a couple can't grow emotionally, develop their characters,…
Youāre accusing me of making this an āeither/orā but that isnāt what I said. What I said is that I personally value romance shown through emotional growth more than through physicality. That doesnāt mean sex and emotional intimacy canāt coexist, of course, they can. It simply means that in romance dramas, I prefer quiet gestures and communication over extended NC scenes. Thatās a matter of taste, not an absolute rule.
On the word fetish, no, sex in itself isnāt automatically a fetish. The reason I used that term is because of how BL often gets consumed and honestly all the other comments about the intimacy scene. Thereās a difference between acknowledging sex as natural and demanding it to the point where the relationship becomes a spectacle rather than a story. That kind of fixation is what I was referring to.
And no, I havenāt āmade a fetish of sexless romanceā. What I value is balance. Intimacy doesnāt only exist in bedrooms; it exists in the way characters communicate, support each other, and navigate vulnerability. That is just as real and meaningful as physical passion.
On Japanese modesty, yes, onsens exist. But thatās a communal, normalized space, not a private romantic one. Storytelling deliberately uses embarrassment, modesty, and awkwardness as tropes to highlight vulnerability and connection. Dismissing that as ānonsenseā isnāt a cultural insight itās overlooking how Japanese culture has portrayed intimacy for decades.
So letās be clear! I havenāt twisted your words. Iāve explained how I read them in the context of BL dramas, and why I value a different approach. You donāt have to agree with me but disagreement doesnāt make me wrong, it just means weāre looking for different things in the same genre.
And thatās where this ends. Iāve laid out my stance clearly. If your next move is to keep nitpicking my wording, trying to correct my personal preference, or continuing to attack me personally then youāre not debating in good faith. Youāre just proving my point about fixation. At that stage, youāre not defending BL or your personal preference, youāre just arguing for the sake of arguing. Which is exactly why Iām stepping back from this and letting your replies speak for themselves.
Your perspective on sex is sadly twisted.Is there some reason a couple can't grow emotionally, develop their characters,…
I didnāt mean to twist your words, but when you wrote āmen are horny af 24/7, put two gay men together and you double that realityā it read as a broad generalization about gay relationships especially since the context of the discussion is BL dramas. Thatās why I responded the way I did.
My point isnāt to set up an either/or, but to explain what I personally value in romance dramas such as the emotional beats, the modest gestures, and the cultural nuances. I donāt need explicit or highly physical intimacy to see a relationship as valid or compelling, and I know a lot of viewers feel the same way.
As for Japanese modesty, I think you and I just see that scene differently. Onsens exist, yes, but public bathing culture doesnāt erase the fact that modesty and embarrassment are common romantic tropes in Japanese storytelling that are used intentionally for humor or emotional tension. Thatās why I read it as fitting the cultural and narrative style rather than being ānonsense.ā
Iām not dismissing your preferences. I just donāt share them. Iād rather have the romance highlight through emotional growth than fetish physicality.
personally for me it is never about 'the action they take' be it 'more intense' or not for the viewer but the…
I can see where youāre coming from and I agree that directing, staging, and editing can make or break an intimate scene for anyone. For me though, it didnāt feel lacking in that way. In fact, the NC scene, if you could call it that, matched the tone of the drama and the personalities of the characters. Not every story aims for high-intensity passion! Sometimes the stiffness or awkwardness is intentional, reflecting the nervousness of first love. Kanade and Kouske's first love.
I think wanting intimacy that sweeps them away and others (like me) preferring intimacy shown through small gestures, communication, and emotional growth are both valid, but I personally value that slice-of-life authenticity that matches the characters and story. So while I respect your point about technical execution, I think this series chose to lean into awkwardness and emotional realism which is exactly why I found the romance compelling rather than laughable.
Your perspective on sex is sadly twisted.Is there some reason a couple can't grow emotionally, develop their characters,…
Nothing twisted about my perspective on sexuality. As a gay man living in the Southern United States, I value romance dramas for the storytelling, not for whether they show porn-level intimacy. From my experience, when a drama leans too heavily on overtly sexual content, the focus on character growth and emotional nuance tends to get lost. Iām not saying itās impossible to balance both, but I havenāt yet seen it done well.
What made this BL compelling to me was exactly those small moments you brushed aside the affirmations, the quiet touches, the emotional growth through communication. Thatās romance.
Also, I find it ironic that you reduce gay men to being āhorny 24/7ā as if that stereotype should dictate how every relationship is portrayed on screen. There are plenty of series that cater to that preference, but not every story needs to fetishize intimacy to be meaningful.
And regarding cultural context, the embarrassment between Kanade and Kosuke is not a flaw it reflects Japanese modesty, humor, and relational subtleties. Ignoring that and calling it unrealistic feels more like a cultural misunderstanding than a valid critique.
At the end of the day, itās about what we value in romance. For me, thatās intimacy rooted in love, growth, and culture, not just physicality. If that makes me twisted, then Iāll happily own it.
Man⦠itās sad to see so much criticism on the kiss and āNCā scene especially comments about how their relationship is not exciting. Completely overlooking the little moments between the characters, such as the comforting touches and affirmations of their love for each other that are way more romantic than a Sex Scene. Like did they shut their brains off to even notice the excellent character development? Their emotional growth of the relationship with COMMUNICATION and agency? Just because they arenāt sticking their tongues down each otherās throats or throwing each other around doesnāt make this a bad romance. I blame the Thai BLs for the over-sexualization of homosexual relationships. I should just avoid the comments on this site by now but I don't want potential viewers to get discouraged from watching an Amazing slice of life BL.
Well after seeing other adaptations, I prefer the dramas over the Manhwa. I prefer the improved plots with character-relationship…
Oh wow, that sounds unfortunate. I was kinda looking forward to watching it too! That is crazy to have the main couple sidelined and switch to a different couple not in the Manhwa, especially nowadays. Well, itās good to know to watch out for the team behind that series if they ever work on another "BL" project. Hopefully, this one doesn't disappoint but from the trailer it looks pretty good!
The manhwa is full of nudity and s*x but i'm sure they will make it another cute innocent looking bl
Itās called an adaptation for a reason and tbh I find the R-rated Manhwas lack quality storytelling. I am glad to see any BL story get a drama series and actually have improved plots with some romance. Itās just funny to me to see so many wanting a ādirect adaptationā which would just be porn half the season. I wouldnāt mind fade to black intimacy scenes but to say they shouldnāt adapt R-rated Manhwa if they donāt want to film sex scenes is very narrow-minded. A good adaptation should elevate the source material, not chain itself to every explicit panel. If anything, trimming the over-the-top smut gives more room for character development, emotional payoff, and actual romance. Things that make a series memorable long after it airs.
The manhwa is full of nudity and s*x but i'm sure they will make it another cute innocent looking bl
Taiwan maybe but please not Thai. Itās unfortunate how some newer Taiwanese BLs are following the Thai trend of speed running to the NC scenes over quality plot and romance.
On the word fetish, no, sex in itself isnāt automatically a fetish. The reason I used that term is because of how BL often gets consumed and honestly all the other comments about the intimacy scene. Thereās a difference between acknowledging sex as natural and demanding it to the point where the relationship becomes a spectacle rather than a story. That kind of fixation is what I was referring to.
And no, I havenāt āmade a fetish of sexless romanceā. What I value is balance. Intimacy doesnāt only exist in bedrooms; it exists in the way characters communicate, support each other, and navigate vulnerability. That is just as real and meaningful as physical passion.
On Japanese modesty, yes, onsens exist. But thatās a communal, normalized space, not a private romantic one. Storytelling deliberately uses embarrassment, modesty, and awkwardness as tropes to highlight vulnerability and connection. Dismissing that as ānonsenseā isnāt a cultural insight itās overlooking how Japanese culture has portrayed intimacy for decades.
So letās be clear! I havenāt twisted your words. Iāve explained how I read them in the context of BL dramas, and why I value a different approach. You donāt have to agree with me but disagreement doesnāt make me wrong, it just means weāre looking for different things in the same genre.
And thatās where this ends. Iāve laid out my stance clearly. If your next move is to keep nitpicking my wording, trying to correct my personal preference, or continuing to attack me personally then youāre not debating in good faith. Youāre just proving my point about fixation. At that stage, youāre not defending BL or your personal preference, youāre just arguing for the sake of arguing. Which is exactly why Iām stepping back from this and letting your replies speak for themselves.
Have a good day superstar!
My point isnāt to set up an either/or, but to explain what I personally value in romance dramas such as the emotional beats, the modest gestures, and the cultural nuances. I donāt need explicit or highly physical intimacy to see a relationship as valid or compelling, and I know a lot of viewers feel the same way.
As for Japanese modesty, I think you and I just see that scene differently. Onsens exist, yes, but public bathing culture doesnāt erase the fact that modesty and embarrassment are common romantic tropes in Japanese storytelling that are used intentionally for humor or emotional tension. Thatās why I read it as fitting the cultural and narrative style rather than being ānonsense.ā
Iām not dismissing your preferences. I just donāt share them. Iād rather have the romance highlight through emotional growth than fetish physicality.
I think wanting intimacy that sweeps them away and others (like me) preferring intimacy shown through small gestures, communication, and emotional growth are both valid, but I personally value that slice-of-life authenticity that matches the characters and story. So while I respect your point about technical execution, I think this series chose to lean into awkwardness and emotional realism which is exactly why I found the romance compelling rather than laughable.
What made this BL compelling to me was exactly those small moments you brushed aside the affirmations, the quiet touches, the emotional growth through communication. Thatās romance.
Also, I find it ironic that you reduce gay men to being āhorny 24/7ā as if that stereotype should dictate how every relationship is portrayed on screen. There are plenty of series that cater to that preference, but not every story needs to fetishize intimacy to be meaningful.
And regarding cultural context, the embarrassment between Kanade and Kosuke is not a flaw it reflects Japanese modesty, humor, and relational subtleties. Ignoring that and calling it unrealistic feels more like a cultural misunderstanding than a valid critique.
At the end of the day, itās about what we value in romance. For me, thatās intimacy rooted in love, growth, and culture, not just physicality. If that makes me twisted, then Iāll happily own it.