me too......can't see another good drama getting ruined with this romance BS.
Of course they helped me a lot with learning English, along with listening to English songs too, but now I also mostly listen to Asian music lmao and trying to learn some Chinese, Korean, and Japanese whenever I can.
To be honest I think it was the 90's 2000s and maybe 2010's that had the best western shows during them. Nowadays all western shows that I happen to hear people talking about don't seem that interesting at all and the movies are just remakes of older movies. Either that or they milk the shit out of successful older movies by making them have about 3000 parts. Creativity at it's finest!
And when it comes to romance, western romance is just awful to me with the rush and very gross tropes, at least in Asian ones it feels more romantic, relaxing, and pure since they mostly kiss and hold hands after dating for like 3 years lol
OMGG I agree so much with you. I thought I was just messed up for getting annoyed at the child. I adore kids and…
Same, I hate how unrealistic everything is all because there are kids and their desires must be put above anything else. They basically be messing with Kang Hee's career with their kids crap.
Also at this type of dramas, the kids always end up creating unnecessary mess and drama between the leads, when all what we watch the drama for is the romance, not the childish chaos and the kid's selfish desires and extreme obsession with getting all the attention, leading their parent to be miserable and stressed.
At least you like kids, while people be treating me like a psychopath for not hyping them nor wanting to deal with them at all so you're not really a bitch lmao
me too......can't see another good drama getting ruined with this romance BS.
Nope lol I watched a good amount of western movies back when I was very young mostly to improve my English language, I wasn't a fan or obsessed with them like Asian shows though, but now I stopped watching them completely. About western drama, I watched Supernatural, that is the only drama that I watched a good amount of whenever it was airing on TV and I had nothing better to do, due to my love for horror dark plots and the bromance, but at some point I lost interest and stopped in like the last season or so, and I skipped many episodes actually while watching. Another dramas that I watched about 5-10 episodes of only are How To Get Away with Murder and Gossip Girl.
Oh, and I watched friends, The Big Bang Theory, How I met Your Mother, Two and Half Man back when I was a kid since my mom loved them so she basically forced me to watch them with her while eating lunch, they were good though to be fair.
Back then I still used to watch TV with my mother so when I couldn't go online to watch anime or whatever I actually liked, I would just watch some of whatever was airing at the time. Now I never watch TV and only watch stuff on my lap top so I don't bother with anything that isn't actually interesting to me.
Nowadays I do hear about new western movies and dramas online to keep up with whatever is happening around the world, but don't check them out and Marvel movies are just not my taste anymore. I did watch the basic ones (Captain America, Iron Man, The first trilogy of Spiderman, X-Men, Wolverine, The Hulk, Batman, Superman, The Avengers two or three first movies, Thor first movie...etc), but now just hearing about them make me feel bored since there are too much of them now and I got tired of the super hero crap. I guess last time I watched anything western was before like 5 years? Or so.
If I'm gonna be honest, there are only three western movies that I truly loved and watched more than 1 time back when I was young which are Troy, Alexander, and Interview with the vampire. Since I was into Greek, Roman stuff, besides Alexander and Interview with the vampires had some gay elements which was very rare back then lol
It has been a hbit of cable and satelite television of Korea by using LGBTQ storylines and then turn them into…
Makes total sense, especially since Won Seok adoptive parents are hardcore Christians, so yeah he totally would be worried about them knowing him being gay lol I sure hope that be the case and they make it clear by the end of the drama and don't end it as "just bromance" bullshit. Though it seems they will be clear since they already mentioned that that cafe dude's parents are gay men, and it could be the reason why Won Seok protected him cause he was upset over the rapist brick being a homophobic.
This will make me sound like a bitch I know, I'm seriously not trying to be a hater, just stating my honest opinion here.
For me the drama is decent, the leads got a very nice chemistry and I love both the actor and actress playing the characters. Though not a huge fan of the plot nor the cringe cliché romance moments honestly. It feels too childish to me with it's type of humor, and if it wasn't for the drama having 4 episodes only and me liking the main cast, I probably wouldn't continue watching.
I know a plot about sick kids...etc will make most people become an instant fan and get all emotional, and yeah indeed it's sad and awful that some people go through such a thing in real life, but I'm not into stories that give too much focus to child characters cause in real life I can't stand kids so that shit doesn't work for me, just like when you're in work and some co-worker decides to bring her kid for whatever reason and expect everyone to go crazy over the kid, leaving everything to play with them and make these annoying sounds and made up words while interacting with them, but it just makes me feel uncomfortable instead so I either walk away or pretend to be blind and deaf to whatever is going on near me lmao
Obviously I knew that the kid actress will get a good amount of screen time judging by the cover and she is doing a good job for a child, I can tell she will have a great career if she is seriously considering to become a professional actress in future, but am just here for the leads and glad that they both got a leading role. Especially Yoon Park since I was upset over his awful role in Forecasting Love and Weather, he is more fitted for a sweet guy role instead of playing a dumb jerk.
me too......can't see another good drama getting ruined with this romance BS.
I don't watch western ones at all. They aren't my taste, I only became a fan of dramas/movies after getting into Asian stuff. I used to only watch anime before, and sometimes western animations if they were good enough.
me too......can't see another good drama getting ruined with this romance BS.
Ikr! it's hard to find people who dislike the typical romance tropes so am glad that we got a lot in common lol
Yeah I watch dramas from many Asian countries like Japan, China, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, Filipin (Though when it comes to Vietnam, Taiwan, Filipin, and Thailand I mostly watch BL stuff).
3 episodes in and honestly only reason I keep watching is D.O since he is a great actor, but the drama feels so freaking cartoonish and boring to me as if it was made for 12 years old kids, not actual adults to enjoy. Plot is so predictable and non unique, and the amount of unrealistic shit is baffling. I know dramas can't always be 100% realistic, but still this is way too much for my liking and ML is so freaking dumb like seriously...
You yell racist so much, that the word has lost its meaning. It's that filter because of the mood and atmosphere…
I get what you mean, but for the parts in Korea, they use filters for the past parts to give the old retro vibe I believe, I get that. They didn't use said filters in parts filmed in Korea in present yet used it in Turkey in present. If they are so into the mood thing then they should use said same filter they used in Turkey everywhere both past and present so that nonene would nag about it at all.
About the Mexico part I used to set an example and basically show where did this whole filter racist thing started to begin with, and why it's better to avoid using it since it could lead to lots of backlash. Just like how the N word was created and mostly used in USA and so it shouldn't be used anywhere in this day and age carelessly since it's not a good thing at all.
I get you're trying hard to get your point through, and I'm not trying to be offending to you but I still don't agree with your opinion. Though yes you're right, this discussion got so long it became exhausting for both of us since no one wants to accept the other's point of view.
To be honest, I won't drop the whole drama over this since I love Song Joong Ki and the plot is actually interesting, just like I still watched Sh**ing Stars till the end (Only to figure out it wasn't worth it even if we somehow manage to forget the first episode sadly, that drama was a total failure), but I still think it was a very annoying thing and it shouldn't be done in first place. It will still affect my rating and I really hope South Korea will learn more about these issues and topics instead of constantly using the ignorance card they love to use every time.
Honestly speaking, episode 1 was just bad. They went too over the top in trying to make her seem depressed and…
I highly agree, I know this will sound rude to some people but when I saw how the FL behaved and how she dressed I was like it's not surprising she gets bullied like that by everyone, like did they really need to make her that...unlikable in a way? Being utterly unstylish and awfully meek is like the greatest way to turn yourself into a bully magnet and make even the none bullies kinda look down on you even if they try hard to hide it to not be mean lol
Also yes as usual I end up falling hard for Im Si Wan, he is so flawless I can't handle it <3
The ML is so freaking adorable, love Siwan and can't help but watch everything he acts in, he is such a gorgeous man with a very chill, likeable, and peaceful vibe <3 not gonna lie first episode was boring as hell to me even though lots happened in it, but the second episode was pretty cute and funny.
Of course everyone in the town will judge and dislike the FL since she is a young loner woman living alone blah blah they love judging women, especially unmarried ones everywhere it seems and her meek ass personality gives them more of a reason to bully her. Even fellow women will say shit about her lmao
I'm worried about the ending of second episode though, hope the glasses dude won't turn out to be a creep who will bother her somehow, and I always wonder why they love having super rude and annoying teen girl characters with shit attitude in lots of Kdramas? Like why?! I seriously despise this type of characters to death.
me too......can't see another good drama getting ruined with this romance BS.
100% agree! I prefer mature and realistic romance than the overdone ones they keep torturing us with and make me feel extremely uncomfortable while watching. I believe only very young audience will find their cringe appealing honestly.
Even if it's a romance between two literal adults like office romance dramas the adults will act like 13 years old teenagers for some reason, and it just pisses me off greatly.
50 episodes will make it too draggy and I know since I went as far as watching many 60-100+ episodes historical…
Your comment made me laugh due to how accurate it is, yes the amount of characters that I highly loved but ended up dying out of the blue, or bad non suitable endings for both main characters and villains is apparently a thing in Chinese dramas. They love to make everything so tragic, unfair, and depressing for some reason. Also they basically use the same character tropes and romance clichés over and over and over again.
And for some reason most of the time my favorite character isn't the main character and they end up dying for the sake of main character or something of the sort.
Especially if it's a romance focused drama and if their happen to be bromance moments the ML will have more chemistry and romantic moments with this best friend/second male lead/rival than the FL lmao great examples for this lack of enough chemistry between the two leads but great bromance/friendship are Ancient Detective, Once Upon a Time in Lingjian Mountain, The Taoism Grandmaster, Fighter of the Destiney, and My Roommate is a Detective.
For some reason in all these dramas cases the ML has some seriously romantic and sweet moments with a fellow dude than he has with the supposedly FL (Though to be honest I prefer BL/bromance over straight romance so I guess it doesn't bother me that much, it's just ironic lol).
I find South korean very racist, they never show respect to any country in their dramas or in their comments when…
Exactly! Just cause they like the culture of some country, it doesn't mean they should mindlessly glorify it and it's people, and you don't need to watch that drama, not only is the first episode painful to watch, but the drama overall was garbage with a very bland and bad-written plot and characters.
You yell racist so much, that the word has lost its meaning. It's that filter because of the mood and atmosphere…
Yeah about the idol going to Africa, that was Sh**ing Stars, I mentioned it in one of comments in this same discussion about how racist it was.
And I still don't understand what is the relation with the murder thing and the filter...how come they didn't use said filter before in like the 10000 other dramas where they murdered people?
Especially when filmed in Korea they never do it. It's known why some countries like USA use this damn filters and so I think it's better to not do such a thing that could lead to getting backlash that could easily be avoided even if they wanna use the "to fit the mood" excuse because what is the point? The drama's ratings aren't gonna tank if they show a country the way it really looks like and the whole mood thing really doesn't make sense at all no matter how I think about it and be open minded... Let me ask you again do you also believe the same thing about American movies that are filmed in Europe or USA itself compared to ones filmed lets say...in Mexico since it's a very well known example? How come they tend to use yellow filter in the Mexico ones but not the ones in their own country? Why the "MOOD" thing only applies to Mexico in this example?!
In this day and age it's easy to know what's wrong and what's right and what can be considered offending so shouldn't they bother learn about it at least instead of using lame excuses or fake ignorance they keep using over and over again.
Also do you see me saying all their dramas are racist? No I talked about this drama and that other drama and why is that? Because they didn't do this filter or overall racist crap in many other dramas.
Besides when the people who are offended by said racism due to it giving negative reputation to their own countries and making them uncomfortable, I find it quite displeasing when people who aren't affected at all by it/from other countries to say that they just wanna apply racism in everything since it's basically victim blaming in a way.
To be honest I think it was the 90's 2000s and maybe 2010's that had the best western shows during them. Nowadays all western shows that I happen to hear people talking about don't seem that interesting at all and the movies are just remakes of older movies. Either that or they milk the shit out of successful older movies by making them have about 3000 parts. Creativity at it's finest!
And when it comes to romance, western romance is just awful to me with the rush and very gross tropes, at least in Asian ones it feels more romantic, relaxing, and pure since they mostly kiss and hold hands after dating for like 3 years lol
Also at this type of dramas, the kids always end up creating unnecessary mess and drama between the leads, when all what we watch the drama for is the romance, not the childish chaos and the kid's selfish desires and extreme obsession with getting all the attention, leading their parent to be miserable and stressed.
At least you like kids, while people be treating me like a psychopath for not hyping them nor wanting to deal with them at all so you're not really a bitch lmao
Oh, and I watched friends, The Big Bang Theory, How I met Your Mother, Two and Half Man back when I was a kid since my mom loved them so she basically forced me to watch them with her while eating lunch, they were good though to be fair.
Back then I still used to watch TV with my mother so when I couldn't go online to watch anime or whatever I actually liked, I would just watch some of whatever was airing at the time. Now I never watch TV and only watch stuff on my lap top so I don't bother with anything that isn't actually interesting to me.
Nowadays I do hear about new western movies and dramas online to keep up with whatever is happening around the world, but don't check them out and Marvel movies are just not my taste anymore. I did watch the basic ones (Captain America, Iron Man, The first trilogy of Spiderman, X-Men, Wolverine, The Hulk, Batman, Superman, The Avengers two or three first movies, Thor first movie...etc), but now just hearing about them make me feel bored since there are too much of them now and I got tired of the super hero crap. I guess last time I watched anything western was before like 5 years? Or so.
If I'm gonna be honest, there are only three western movies that I truly loved and watched more than 1 time back when I was young which are Troy, Alexander, and Interview with the vampire. Since I was into Greek, Roman stuff, besides Alexander and Interview with the vampires had some gay elements which was very rare back then lol
For me the drama is decent, the leads got a very nice chemistry and I love both the actor and actress playing the characters. Though not a huge fan of the plot nor the cringe cliché romance moments honestly. It feels too childish to me with it's type of humor, and if it wasn't for the drama having 4 episodes only and me liking the main cast, I probably wouldn't continue watching.
I know a plot about sick kids...etc will make most people become an instant fan and get all emotional, and yeah indeed it's sad and awful that some people go through such a thing in real life, but I'm not into stories that give too much focus to child characters cause in real life I can't stand kids so that shit doesn't work for me, just like when you're in work and some co-worker decides to bring her kid for whatever reason and expect everyone to go crazy over the kid, leaving everything to play with them and make these annoying sounds and made up words while interacting with them, but it just makes me feel uncomfortable instead so I either walk away or pretend to be blind and deaf to whatever is going on near me lmao
Obviously I knew that the kid actress will get a good amount of screen time judging by the cover and she is doing a good job for a child, I can tell she will have a great career if she is seriously considering to become a professional actress in future, but am just here for the leads and glad that they both got a leading role. Especially Yoon Park since I was upset over his awful role in Forecasting Love and Weather, he is more fitted for a sweet guy role instead of playing a dumb jerk.
Yeah I watch dramas from many Asian countries like Japan, China, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, Filipin (Though when it comes to Vietnam, Taiwan, Filipin, and Thailand I mostly watch BL stuff).
About the Mexico part I used to set an example and basically show where did this whole filter racist thing started to begin with, and why it's better to avoid using it since it could lead to lots of backlash. Just like how the N word was created and mostly used in USA and so it shouldn't be used anywhere in this day and age carelessly since it's not a good thing at all.
I get you're trying hard to get your point through, and I'm not trying to be offending to you but I still don't agree with your opinion. Though yes you're right, this discussion got so long it became exhausting for both of us since no one wants to accept the other's point of view.
To be honest, I won't drop the whole drama over this since I love Song Joong Ki and the plot is actually interesting, just like I still watched Sh**ing Stars till the end (Only to figure out it wasn't worth it even if we somehow manage to forget the first episode sadly, that drama was a total failure), but I still think it was a very annoying thing and it shouldn't be done in first place. It will still affect my rating and I really hope South Korea will learn more about these issues and topics instead of constantly using the ignorance card they love to use every time.
Anyway have a nice day!
Also yes as usual I end up falling hard for Im Si Wan, he is so flawless I can't handle it <3
Of course everyone in the town will judge and dislike the FL since she is a young loner woman living alone blah blah they love judging women, especially unmarried ones everywhere it seems and her meek ass personality gives them more of a reason to bully her. Even fellow women will say shit about her lmao
I'm worried about the ending of second episode though, hope the glasses dude won't turn out to be a creep who will bother her somehow, and I always wonder why they love having super rude and annoying teen girl characters with shit attitude in lots of Kdramas? Like why?! I seriously despise this type of characters to death.
Even if it's a romance between two literal adults like office romance dramas the adults will act like 13 years old teenagers for some reason, and it just pisses me off greatly.
And for some reason most of the time my favorite character isn't the main character and they end up dying for the sake of main character or something of the sort.
Especially if it's a romance focused drama and if their happen to be bromance moments the ML will have more chemistry and romantic moments with this best friend/second male lead/rival than the FL lmao great examples for this lack of enough chemistry between the two leads but great bromance/friendship are Ancient Detective, Once Upon a Time in Lingjian Mountain, The Taoism Grandmaster, Fighter of the Destiney, and My Roommate is a Detective.
For some reason in all these dramas cases the ML has some seriously romantic and sweet moments with a fellow dude than he has with the supposedly FL (Though to be honest I prefer BL/bromance over straight romance so I guess it doesn't bother me that much, it's just ironic lol).
And I still don't understand what is the relation with the murder thing and the filter...how come they didn't use said filter before in like the 10000 other dramas where they murdered people?
Especially when filmed in Korea they never do it. It's known why some countries like USA use this damn filters and so I think it's better to not do such a thing that could lead to getting backlash that could easily be avoided even if they wanna use the "to fit the mood" excuse because what is the point? The drama's ratings aren't gonna tank if they show a country the way it really looks like and the whole mood thing really doesn't make sense at all no matter how I think about it and be open minded...
Let me ask you again do you also believe the same thing about American movies that are filmed in Europe or USA itself compared to ones filmed lets say...in Mexico since it's a very well known example? How come they tend to use yellow filter in the Mexico ones but not the ones in their own country? Why the "MOOD" thing only applies to Mexico in this example?!
In this day and age it's easy to know what's wrong and what's right and what can be considered offending so shouldn't they bother learn about it at least instead of using lame excuses or fake ignorance they keep using over and over again.
Also do you see me saying all their dramas are racist? No I talked about this drama and that other drama and why is that? Because they didn't do this filter or overall racist crap in many other dramas.
Besides when the people who are offended by said racism due to it giving negative reputation to their own countries and making them uncomfortable, I find it quite displeasing when people who aren't affected at all by it/from other countries to say that they just wanna apply racism in everything since it's basically victim blaming in a way.