EDIT: when all else fails, reload the app and bada bing bada boom subtitles! Okay came in to watch after 8 episodes have aired so these questions might have already been answered earlier. Does Youku not have the English subtitles for this one? I'm on my app and it's not letting me choose English CC and I am a bit confused. I do have a viki account but it's not airing for another 3 days. I'm going to try my desktop and see if I'm just missing it or something.
I swear to god Allen, if you die in this one Imma throw a lil tempie tantrum. I need this to not be the case Allen...I'm trusting you....👀👀👀 this can not be me in 3 weeks 🤡
Very much worth watching. I think of all the dramas I've watched it has one of the best endings.
No, not really for me. But that was the personality I met first because I was watching it as it aired before the re-edit to change the order into a more linear timeline. So to me, at her core she was always a lighter more carefree person. And at the end it was more of a blend and she was actually able to live more as herself than ever before.
Was it implied that there was some sort of connection between Song Shi Lan and Jiang Chun?Also side question...I…
I think you're correct in who you're talking about Shen You was the North Qi commander that Wang Lan(pregnant at the time 6th Wei sister in-law). Okay so in the show Song Shi Lan was very much autistic-coded or at the very least ACE(either asexual or aromantic) coded so I never picked up on anything. I'm not sure that they every had any scenes together outside of large public gatherings and there was no in camera nods to his attraction/attention to her. That's a bit disappointing as it would have been easy to include a lingering look/sigh of regret from him. The actor is very good at having internal thoughts projected on his face...missed opportunity from production. I have so many thoughts on the overall editing and screen adapting of this one. I just think there are better ways to progress through a story using visual media than what we were given for a final product. I think it was a bit of a disserves to not have the production be a full/true ensemble. I get why that doesn't happen in cdramas...the fans be crazy about where their person ranks in a cast list(billing) too much for that. Perfect Match didn't do as good a job as it could have either, but something like how perfect match didn't actually have set leads but for Fight For Love have more simultaneous stories rather than only having a couple have an 8 episode arc and moving to the next. Now that I'm finished with the show I'm just looking back at all the wasted filler that could have made the overall stories flow better.
Disclaimer: This is said with love and humor as an ACE neurodivergent person. Doughnut is a softer way of saying idiot or dumb-dumb as he does not lack intelligence but lacks EQ.
They established MULTIPLE times that Chu Yu can jump walls of well secured residences and yet somehow she's "afraid and trapped" by a man with almost no martial arts skills and a very lack luster security team. The only reason he's still alive to do this is because he's a fast roller.....on the ground. So, writers, next time do better with you're set ups. Not only was the whole lead up extremely triggering, you somehow made the FL forget she's a warrior who can take down over a dozen men at once on her own with no real weapon. Seriously...a line of "you can't keep me here and you know that it would take me all of a minute to escape or kill all your men..." I needed her to be confident in her abilities. A smirk.....something other than a clinched fist and direct death threat that went nowhere while she shook with fear. I personally would have scarred his face up real nice and then jumped over a wall and been on my merry way to a public place with lots of witnesses. Or to one of my many friends places so they can give me an alibi. "Oh no, an assassin broke into the new Chancellor's place on his birthday and scarred him up real good...I wonder who it could be." Shocked Pikachu face.
Don't get me wrong. I'm enjoying the performances. I just can't tell if the character is poorly written or the logic of the character is purposefully bad because he is bad. And because it seems to be a common thing when a general does well in all these dramas i'm just kind of like....what's the real reason and can someone please step in before he dies and they can't undo his royal edicts anymore.
Just barely into episode 33 and the emperor is so stupid. Pinning his most powerful supporters against each other. My guy...you are an idiot. I am rooting for him to be killed by the enemy at this point I would take the shitty crown prince over the current ruler. Hell make one of his ministers the killer.
He makes it so it's okay for the military families to intermingle and then is acting all shocked Pikachu when they ACTUALLY intermingle. The Song family was in retirement...they came when they realized the nation needed help. The Chu's and Wei's fought on multiple fronts. This man is pissing me the fuck off.
He has very few loyal subjects that don't just want power and because they don't want power but to protect the nation he gives them the option of a gilded cage or the iron bar kind. A misogynistic POS that can't even put his own ego aside to properly reward a woman for helping win back 2 cities, destroying an enemies' weapons factory/warehouse, and attempting to save his own beloved sister. He's worse than his own backstabbing ministers now.
He thinks that just because North Qi's king is dead that he doesn't need the Chu's anymore. That they've served their purpose and can rot at home without ever producing legitimate heirs to their family line. He's so freaking lucky that Wei Yun and Chu Yu are mentally stable....villain origin story levels of bullshit happening to them right now.
Yall im heated and i'm only 8 minutes in. I need a drink or something.
I need the emperors/aka writers of these shows to realize that the people who sacrifice everything for their country shouldn't be locked in an emotional cage and barred from the person they love. What's stopping your loyal general to just saying well fuck it all and either taking up for the other team or stop fighting altogether? Oh no I fell off my horse in a freak accident and can no longer be a combat general. Oh you want to stop me from marrying the person I love and having my own family? Okay, bet, well Imma make sure your heir doesn't live past his enthronement. DO NOT PISS OFF THE PEOPLE WHO PROTECT YOUR NATION and garner loyalty from THOUSANDS sometime hundreds of thousands. It is a repeated trope in most of these general FL or ML shows. The only time that wasn't the case the ML messed up so bad that FL went into solitude with a deposed empress for like 5 to 8 years(can't remember the year count) just to avoid his ass and having to marry period. It's so dumb....like so dumb. Blossom in Adversity, Legend of the Female General, Shadow Love, One and Only, Si Jin, Everlasting Longing.....these are just off the top of my head all of them delt with the ruler of a nation trying to box in their best warrior or warriors and stop/make it more difficult for them to be happy. 4 of them they were directly related to the Emperor in some way. I get that emperors were control freaks, but like choose a different struggle for the love of all that is holy.
That second couple in tff is so unnecessary and boring
Literally THIS! SHE was on a plane TO him and he was about to get on one TO HER, because she hadn't texted him back in a FEW hours(less than 5 hours) and he was worried about her. They had a fight/argument/disagreement BUT STAYED IN CONTACT the ENTIRE TIME he was visiting his sister at her university...and this director had the whole grain audacity to turn it into a SIX MONTH GHOSTING and KEEP THE ORGINGIAL less than 48 HOURS of being in two cities dialog. Did not change the hotel conversations at all....I was like...you MUST be joking with this bullsh*t. So glad someone else understands my pain when it comes to that adaptation. Perfect cast wasted on such horrible creative license. Which is why I'm hoping he takes ZERO part in the screenplay for this drama.
When do they get together? This back and forth is maddening
ep23, confession accepted, secret relationship starts ep23, relationship put on back burner because scandal/family duty(yes it was the same damn episode not even a full 30minutes of them together before shit hit the fan) ep26, physically separated because war end of ep30, reunited & more determined to be together than ever before. teaser for ep31 kisses/I love/I like yous teaser ep32-34 everyone is like nope can't be together & they're all like, well we dont care what you say even if you are the Emperor this is the hill we are willing to die on/you won't let us marry each other okay bet...we won't marry anyone & still be together. (aka the exact same plot happening that happened in Legend of the female general)
So my question is what can I skip if I finished 23 cuz I’m losing interest.
I always say put it on 2x speed & see if anything pops out at you to need to slow it down to read dialog. that way you still know the broad strokes of where everyone is located at any giving time as all the characters are moving around. I hand write my summaries for each episode. if I had it typed I would just link it here for you. so super cliffnotes below.
Major spoilers below if you dont want to know about episodes 24-30
Wang Lan has her baby in episode 24 spy gets out & surprise is under timed poison that HanMei gives him the antidote for...you know the drill, only stops the poison for so long so that they can be controlled etc.
The ensemble kind of takes over at episode 26 as the leads split up to fight at different cities Chu's to FenLing, Wei, Gu, & Song brothers to QingZhou. this plot was a lot more interesting to me because of the trust everyone shows toward each other to protect themselves & out wit others. the song siblings get more development/screen time in this chunk as well(also Chu Lin Yang...i think him and Tuan Tuan are my favorite dynamic of all the love interests). & the battles start to kick off at ep 28. still fighting the FenLing battle as of episode 30.
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Okay came in to watch after 8 episodes have aired so these questions might have already been answered earlier.
Does Youku not have the English subtitles for this one? I'm on my app and it's not letting me choose English CC and I am a bit confused. I do have a viki account but it's not airing for another 3 days. I'm going to try my desktop and see if I'm just missing it or something.
Okay so in the show Song Shi Lan was very much autistic-coded or at the very least ACE(either asexual or aromantic) coded so I never picked up on anything. I'm not sure that they every had any scenes together outside of large public gatherings and there was no in camera nods to his attraction/attention to her. That's a bit disappointing as it would have been easy to include a lingering look/sigh of regret from him. The actor is very good at having internal thoughts projected on his face...missed opportunity from production.
I have so many thoughts on the overall editing and screen adapting of this one. I just think there are better ways to progress through a story using visual media than what we were given for a final product. I think it was a bit of a disserves to not have the production be a full/true ensemble. I get why that doesn't happen in cdramas...the fans be crazy about where their person ranks in a cast list(billing) too much for that. Perfect Match didn't do as good a job as it could have either, but something like how perfect match didn't actually have set leads but for Fight For Love have more simultaneous stories rather than only having a couple have an 8 episode arc and moving to the next. Now that I'm finished with the show I'm just looking back at all the wasted filler that could have made the overall stories flow better.
Also side question...I guess it doesn't really matter in the long run, but what the hell happened to Shen You after he ran away from QingZhou?
Disclaimer: This is said with love and humor as an ACE neurodivergent person. Doughnut is a softer way of saying idiot or dumb-dumb as he does not lack intelligence but lacks EQ.
I personally would have scarred his face up real nice and then jumped over a wall and been on my merry way to a public place with lots of witnesses. Or to one of my many friends places so they can give me an alibi. "Oh no, an assassin broke into the new Chancellor's place on his birthday and scarred him up real good...I wonder who it could be." Shocked Pikachu face.
He makes it so it's okay for the military families to intermingle and then is acting all shocked Pikachu when they ACTUALLY intermingle. The Song family was in retirement...they came when they realized the nation needed help. The Chu's and Wei's fought on multiple fronts. This man is pissing me the fuck off.
He has very few loyal subjects that don't just want power and because they don't want power but to protect the nation he gives them the option of a gilded cage or the iron bar kind. A misogynistic POS that can't even put his own ego aside to properly reward a woman for helping win back 2 cities, destroying an enemies' weapons factory/warehouse, and attempting to save his own beloved sister.
He's worse than his own backstabbing ministers now.
He thinks that just because North Qi's king is dead that he doesn't need the Chu's anymore. That they've served their purpose and can rot at home without ever producing legitimate heirs to their family line. He's so freaking lucky that Wei Yun and Chu Yu are mentally stable....villain origin story levels of bullshit happening to them right now.
Yall im heated and i'm only 8 minutes in. I need a drink or something.
DO NOT PISS OFF THE PEOPLE WHO PROTECT YOUR NATION and garner loyalty from THOUSANDS sometime hundreds of thousands. It is a repeated trope in most of these general FL or ML shows. The only time that wasn't the case the ML messed up so bad that FL went into solitude with a deposed empress for like 5 to 8 years(can't remember the year count) just to avoid his ass and having to marry period.
It's so dumb....like so dumb.
Blossom in Adversity, Legend of the Female General, Shadow Love, One and Only, Si Jin, Everlasting Longing.....these are just off the top of my head all of them delt with the ruler of a nation trying to box in their best warrior or warriors and stop/make it more difficult for them to be happy. 4 of them they were directly related to the Emperor in some way. I get that emperors were control freaks, but like choose a different struggle for the love of all that is holy.
So glad someone else understands my pain when it comes to that adaptation. Perfect cast wasted on such horrible creative license. Which is why I'm hoping he takes ZERO part in the screenplay for this drama.
ep23, relationship put on back burner because scandal/family duty(yes it was the same damn episode not even a full 30minutes of them together before shit hit the fan)
ep26, physically separated because war
end of ep30, reunited & more determined to be together than ever before.
teaser for ep31 kisses/I love/I like yous
teaser ep32-34 everyone is like nope can't be together & they're all like, well we dont care what you say even if you are the Emperor this is the hill we are willing to die on/you won't let us marry each other okay bet...we won't marry anyone & still be together. (aka the exact same plot happening that happened in Legend of the female general)
I hand write my summaries for each episode. if I had it typed I would just link it here for you. so super cliffnotes below.
Major spoilers below if you dont want to know about episodes 24-30
Wang Lan has her baby in episode 24 spy gets out & surprise is under timed poison that HanMei gives him the antidote for...you know the drill, only stops the poison for so long so that they can be controlled etc.
The ensemble kind of takes over at episode 26 as the leads split up to fight at different cities Chu's to FenLing, Wei, Gu, & Song brothers to QingZhou. this plot was a lot more interesting to me because of the trust everyone shows toward each other to protect themselves & out wit others. the song siblings get more development/screen time in this chunk as well(also Chu Lin Yang...i think him and Tuan Tuan are my favorite dynamic of all the love interests). & the battles start to kick off at ep 28. still fighting the FenLing battle as of episode 30.