Any idea who was the host of the evil spirit before it latched to San Young?
I'm guessing her father Prof. Gu.
That would explain why he saw his own copy (similiar how GSY's ghost copy is Seen by the victims). Then it's also a possibility that the ghost was responsible for his last wish of GSY inheriting the hair accessory.
idk why everyone thinks the shaman is the ghost, bc i interpreted that the child the shaman killed would be the…
But how could he realize the ghost is a juvenile instead of the adult Shaman at that moment when he literally wrote 'the ghost is a juvenile into his own journal some time ago?
Also, we saw the girl but from the perspective of the one tying it into the hair of the girl
>Why did he intentionally give it to his daughter? How did he know the spirit will latch on to her?Since his killer…
>And also Yeom grandma maybe she’s a descendant of that shaman
Thought about that as well. Could explain why he can see ghosts.
>that particular story in the vision and does it have a connection to the situation
Just read up on it (The Story of Janghwa and Hongryeun) because I thought the same, but I don't see a direct link to it. Only the 'listening to ghosts and help them find peace' aspect that already came Up. And then maybe the 'girls suspected of being killer ghosts but actually being innocent' aspect which could tie into the Shaman is the ghost theory.
idk why everyone thinks the shaman is the ghost, bc i interpreted that the child the shaman killed would be the…
I think everyone suspects it because of the way it was filmed (at least that's why I do it)
The lingering shot of the 'juvenile ghost' line after asking what went wrong, and him suddenly understanding something. That's often a cue for the viewer that the thing shown is wrong or at least not the entire truth.
I think so too. Cause in his book he had a picture of her and it was basically talking about her and the origin…
I guess it involves the past, and why the mother is utterly afraid and against the father.
Maybe the ghost tried to possess her already when she was a child, but it didn't work or she was freed, but the mother decided to remove her from that forever.
(My personal theory: The father let himself be possessed instead. Explains his copy ghost murderer+him removing himself from everything/-one)
Questions I’m left with after ep2Why did he intentionally give it to his daughter? How did he know the spirit…
>Why did he intentionally give it to his daughter? How did he know the spirit will latch on to her?
Since his killer was his own Copy, my theory is that he himself was possessed and the ghost wrote his last wish of SanYoung getting the hair accessory.
>Why did professor Yeom mom die?
She seemed to know a lot about the occult, and I thought his grandma was very suspicious. So maybe a family secret (that ties to the origin of the ghost maybe?)
>Was it cause he was looking for a way to get rid of it? Did her grandmother get killed because she read the book and knew of its origin?
Those are my guesses. +the ghost went after grandma after SY learned that Yeonmae Haesang would go to her. So additionally to prevent him from learning something?
>I gues s it’s the shaman instead
Agree 100%.
>I wonder if there was something in particular he may have mentioned to her or a story he told her
Theory (because of the shaman flashback/Yeonmae ritual (?)): In the first episode Prof. wondered about why something was wrong and saw the 'ghost is a juvenile' note and realised something. I guess that's wrong and the ghost is an adult? Moreover the ghost of the shaman? And the sacrifice shaman ritual reminds me of the Goedam episode regarding the Yeonmae ritual. It's where someone steals children and intentionally starves them, before tempting them with food, stabbing them to death and trapping their soul (in a pot) to gain power. I guess that happened (but trapping them in the hair accessory) but something happened and the shaman got entangled/trapped herself
The comments below are very negative, so I'm putting a more positive one here:
I really enjoyed the show overall, it had a fantastic story (despite some flaws) with the Pied Piper villain and the moral complexities of living and existing in a world with many intentionally man-made tragedies. The acting was good (especially Shin Ha Kyun ofc), and I enjoyed many of the characters.
But the show has a very very large flaw and that is the colour grading. It's often very washed out or in some of the earlier episodes has a yellow-brown tinge.
Can you spoil me about the organisation? I already watch until ep 5 but circumstances made me to stop watching…
Yes, he is. Basically a protegé/main helper of the boss. And his story is really tragic. He was kidnapped as a child by the boss, brainwashed, and then used as a killer. He thought he was alone/left behind by his family, but his parents never stopped searching for him. As his father got to close, the boss even used Ha Joon to unknowingly kill his own father. He learned about that in the finale. The whole thing was so sadistic, cruel and utterly sad. If you have time whenever it's really worth watching.
Can you spoil me about the organisation? I already watch until ep 5 but circumstances made me to stop watching…
It's an evil organisation, with a really cruel man on top (similiar like Spectre in James Bond). The bad guys of the revenge cases were basically all members of that organisation and killed because of their failures.
How many episodes has this one? On MDL it says 12 but I can only see 11 on netflix?
Seems to have 11. Seems MDL has some errors this time. The name of one of the FLs also seems to be wrong. Netflix (and Asianwiki) say Oh Kyung Sook instead of Oh Seong Sook
It promises to be a fun and entertaining show. The characters are quirky and engaging. Love the Cultural Heritage Administration setting, it's different.
I'm interested why the criminal collector side seems to know about these Tongbo coins, while the official appraisers don't. Is it an important urban legend on the criminal side?
I think this season is better than the first one. Jong A has more impact and feels less than a walking wikipedia, and Wook actually uses trickery as a former conman.
Heo Joon Ho is again fantastic as Mr. Jang and I hope he can work through his grief. And I have to say: Go Soo's lucious locks are a vision.
I'm really excited to see how the stories and characters will evolve.
I hate Prime. Why is it not available in my country? I hate when things are advertised to appear on certain platforms but it's not released worldwide. Just say that.
Well, it seems as if I have to put on my pirate costume again 🤷
1&2 were honestly underwhelming as a lot of the same things happened (FL getting hunted by the lust demons, ML saving her), but 3&4 were really enjoyable.
- The 3 mains are fun, and their dynamics are already quite good - The lore/worldbuilding is very interesting and has a nice mystery - Kim Nam Gil is always amazing but Lee Da Hee and Cha Eun Woo are good so far as well. - The relationship between Van and the immortal grandmother is really sweet
But I have to be honest, so far it has basically zero horror and seems more like a supernatural action show which is fine as well. I read that the second part/season gets a lot darker, so I'm interested how they'll turn up the actual horror.
And the greatest flaw so far is the directing/editing of the fight scenes. They are very messy and not good.
I came for Lee Sung Min and I got Lee Sung Min. His acting as grandpa was amazing. To stand out in this talented cast is an achievement. Baeksang please.
Overall, it was a really good show. Especially the chaebol family shenanigans and business aspect were great and fun. A standout here, is of course the Grandpa-DJ- relationship, but I also really enjoyed aunt HY and her husband.
The greatest flaw IMO was the romance. While I liked MY and enjoyed her scenes at work, I had zero care for scenes between her and DJ.
The ending was really enjoyable as well (in contrast to many opinions) and had actual meaning. And IMO it was incredible inventive how they used the HW-DJ connection.
That would explain why he saw his own copy (similiar how GSY's ghost copy is Seen by the victims). Then it's also a possibility that the ghost was responsible for his last wish of GSY inheriting the hair accessory.
Also, we saw the girl but from the perspective of the one tying it into the hair of the girl
Thought about that as well. Could explain why he can see ghosts.
>that particular story in the vision and does it have a connection to the situation
Just read up on it (The Story of Janghwa and Hongryeun) because I thought the same, but I don't see a direct link to it. Only the 'listening to ghosts and help them find peace' aspect that already came Up. And then maybe the 'girls suspected of being killer ghosts but actually being innocent' aspect which could tie into the Shaman is the ghost theory.
The lingering shot of the 'juvenile ghost' line after asking what went wrong, and him suddenly understanding something. That's often a cue for the viewer that the thing shown is wrong or at least not the entire truth.
Maybe the ghost tried to possess her already when she was a child, but it didn't work or she was freed, but the mother decided to remove her from that forever.
(My personal theory: The father let himself be possessed instead. Explains his copy ghost murderer+him removing himself from everything/-one)
Since his killer was his own Copy, my theory is that he himself was possessed and the ghost wrote his last wish of SanYoung getting the hair accessory.
>Why did professor Yeom mom die?
She seemed to know a lot about the occult, and I thought his grandma was very suspicious. So maybe a family secret (that ties to the origin of the ghost maybe?)
>Was it cause he was looking for a way to get rid of it?
Did her grandmother get killed because she read the book and knew of its origin?
Those are my guesses. +the ghost went after grandma after SY learned that Yeonmae Haesang would go to her. So additionally to prevent him from learning something?
>I gues s it’s the shaman instead
Agree 100%.
>I wonder if there was something in particular he may have mentioned to her or a story he told her
That's what I thought as well
I really enjoyed the show overall, it had a fantastic story (despite some flaws) with the Pied Piper villain and the moral complexities of living and existing in a world with many intentionally man-made tragedies. The acting was good (especially Shin Ha Kyun ofc), and I enjoyed many of the characters.
But the show has a very very large flaw and that is the colour grading. It's often very washed out or in some of the earlier episodes has a yellow-brown tinge.
But overall I rate it 8/10.
Fun cases, and better main villains with that organisation.
I'm interested why the criminal collector side seems to know about these Tongbo coins, while the official appraisers don't. Is it an important urban legend on the criminal side?
Overall great pacing, good writing and interesting characters so far.
Heo Joon Ho is again fantastic as Mr. Jang and I hope he can work through his grief. And I have to say: Go Soo's lucious locks are a vision.
I'm really excited to see how the stories and characters will evolve.
Well, it seems as if I have to put on my pirate costume again 🤷
1&2 were honestly underwhelming as a lot of the same things happened (FL getting hunted by the lust demons, ML saving her), but 3&4 were really enjoyable.
- The 3 mains are fun, and their dynamics are already quite good
- The lore/worldbuilding is very interesting and has a nice mystery
- Kim Nam Gil is always amazing but Lee Da Hee and Cha Eun Woo are good so far as well.
- The relationship between Van and the immortal grandmother is really sweet
But I have to be honest, so far it has basically zero horror and seems more like a supernatural action show which is fine as well. I read that the second part/season gets a lot darker, so I'm interested how they'll turn up the actual horror.
And the greatest flaw so far is the directing/editing of the fight scenes. They are very messy and not good.
Overall, it was a really good show. Especially the chaebol family shenanigans and business aspect were great and fun. A standout here, is of course the Grandpa-DJ- relationship, but I also really enjoyed aunt HY and her husband.
The greatest flaw IMO was the romance. While I liked MY and enjoyed her scenes at work, I had zero care for scenes between her and DJ.
The ending was really enjoyable as well (in contrast to many opinions) and had actual meaning. And IMO it was incredible inventive how they used the HW-DJ connection.
Rating: 9/10