Not a Robot

Local viewers know what poverty looks like and there are probably shows (not specifically BL) that tell a real story. I don't think international viewers could handle real lives of the poor. When a sanitized view is presented such as in Hometown's Embrace, international viewers continually complain about the lack of production, storytelling, acting, etc. There are sacrifices for low budget projects and international viewers don't like it. They want rich people/companies telling the stories of the poor so they can get top acting, production and settings like A Tale of a Thousand Stars, which I really loved, but it isn't the poor speaking for the poor. That is my short answer and just my opinion.

That's what I mean. Ball wanted him back but Nut refused.

I'll be sad to see this series end. I'm glad that Nut stood his ground with Ball.

Pob said that he is adopted, so maybe his adoptive parents have money, at least enough to pay his tuition fees and apartment. Otherwise he probably would just live at home. Poor people in Thailand do not live like Pob. He looks middle class to me, where Leo is rich.

I can't stand the on the knees technique, to create space, but it's used in Asia, even in well produced series like History (after season 1). I kind of like how Leo and Fiat are approaching this. One is afraid of underwhelming his partner, the other is afraid of overwhelming his partner. They are slowly getting there though. I understand because I had a VERY BRIEF romance with someone who was like a brother to me, and we could never get over the awkwardness. We only kissed a few times, but we did not have the maturity to even talk it out, we just went back to bro/sis.

Fiat is still feisty, he went over there and claimed his man. Leo did not disclose the orphanage thing, that's why Fiat, led down the rabbit hole by Leon, misunderstood. That's an immaturity moment of Leo and Fiat's. Leo for not disclosing out of not wanting to disclose Pob's past (if there's nothing wrong with being an orphan, Leo could have told Fiat, but he must think that Fiat is shallow) and Fiat should have just asked if Leo why he was talking to Pob. We have all jumped to incorrect conclusions in life and made an ass out of ourselves. I know I have.

I agree, stop the sound effects, but Thais must like this in their comedies because it's in all of them.

I think that we can discuss the topic civilly and we can always agree to disagree.

Edited to add: Famous line from Love Story, "Love means never having to say you're sorry." I disagree, but maybe that's how Fiat feels. Just kidding.

I love this series! I might get killed for this, but it's kind of like a Brady Bunch (yes, I'm old) concept where they have a conflict of the episode and resolve it within the episode. The beauty is, the couples talk things out and try to resolve the conflict. Yes, Fiat let Leon lead him down the rabbit hole, but it comes from having a certain amount of shame for his past behavior. Same as Leon, not feeling he can measure up to his older brother. If more couples regardless of gender could communicate more, they would have better relationships. The irony of this board is, when things are "toxic" people get it a tizzy, but when characters display adult behaviors, they still complain. I think this board can be a gathering place for immaturity at times.

I think that some people left because there was too much of the girls and teachers, and too little time between Nut and Satha in the first episodes. That's okay because we don't have to hear them complain every week. Even though it's very low budget they have different types of people, and bodies. I think the actor playing Nut may be LGBT because the way he kisses is not the dead fish kiss. I just love this series. I rate after I watch the whole series so maybe it will go up a little bit.

I don't have my phone on me, but it is something like My Boy the Series International.

I'm only watching the BL cuts but I don't like modern MxF Asian dramas. I only watch the other characters in relation with Mark and Ou Wen.

Episode 10 was great. I'm not sure how they are going to resolve things in 2 episodes, but I'm still ride or die for Nut and Satha. I'm glad they stopped showing the girls and the teachers.

In Ep 10 when Satha was talking to Dearny, he referred to Nut by name, not by uncle, which is what he calls Nut privately. That tells me it's a nickname, and that Satha does not have a daddy/uncle fetish.

The Line Group says there are 12 episodes.

I hate that this series doesn't do previews!

I think that the love scene suffered from lack of direction. I watched all four lead cast interviews pre-release of the series, and both Ja and First said the love scenes were embarrassing because they know each other. The director needed to help them overcome the embarrassment, but didn't.

The supporting characters are new for this series, but Leo and Fiat are hold overs from TT2. Ja played Sin in Until We Meet Again and I didn't recognize him without the hideous wig.

As a woman, I don't see BL as misogynist per se, because women do fantasize about many things, and the rake hero and taming the bad guy reflects in our storytelling. I've been reading BL manga for many years and there are fantasies that I didn't even think about such as tentacles and hybrid human/animal. I know that BL dramas have to be pretty tame, but women like to read violent/dark stuff and it's popular on aggregator sites. There are a lot of manga and webtoons that are twisted, violent, etc., but they are popular. One of the most popular dark manga, Saezuru Tori wa Habatakunai has an anime.

In regards to this series, I think that sanitizing Fiat's character is to appeal to the mainstream viewer and the younger SJW types who do not forgive any weaknesses in character, even from birth. Maybe Thais like TT2 more than international viewers because Mame is the producer and she chose this director again.

That's true, it's a very quick turn around. I used to hate that trope because of course, the female was always a virgin. Yet, I still read them when I was younger.

I think that I really like that this couple communicates better than a lot of real life couples I know, Leo has to get over his performance insecurity.

I agree about the directing of Ja and First. In their pre-release interviews, both stated that the love scenes were awkward because they knew each other before shooting. The director should have helped them with that. I know that not everyone likes New as a director, but he was really good at that with Perth who was only 17 at the time, and Saint.

I liked the tender love scene, but I'm vanilla and Fiat did express his desires for next time. The redemption of characters is a common romance trope. I used to read historical romances and the male lead is usually refashioned from a former promiscuous rake. Just like Leon, the promiscuous pansexual is being remodeled for Pob.

No, the shirt was hideous. I looked like he ran out of the middle of a custom suit fitting. Some of the fashion in Asian dramas are questionable.

Some of us have the emotional connection because we watched TT2 and saw the struggle Leo and Fiat went through. You don't need to watch TT2, but if you haven't watched the special episode of this series, I recommend that you do as it will give you more of a back story.