Not a Robot

I have a family member who is co-dependent. Serial dater, has one claw into one guy before letting go of the other. If you like rock, she likes rock, if you like rap, she likes rap. Must call her 20 times a day. To me, she is the gold standard for co-dependent. Eiw isn't even close.

I'm from the US and I love it, but I understand, and hope you can move home soon. I wouldn't want to be stuck in a country I hated. I wouldn't want my taxes paying for a monarch who wanted to be a tampon, as he stated in his recorded phone calls with Camilla, but the people in the UK don't seem to mind. As messed up as the US can be, both the UK and Japan had public assassinations in 2021, and 2022 respectively. No country is perfect, but I prefer the diversity of the US, that's what I'm comfortable with. No hard feelings.

Even today, international phone calls are 25 cents per minute, and since they didn't have smartphones, they would not be able to keep in touch with apps like they could today. They could use AIM or in this case MSM, but there is about a 14 hour time difference depending on the state, so they wouldn't really be able to talk like they do now.

I agree that Cake is dependent too, or else Eiw would have been the first person he told about the move. I'm thinking that it's taking him a while to realize what he feels is love, just like it took Eiw watching the movie to put a word to his feelings.

Twenty years ago, neither of them would have had a gay person to confide in, unless someone is their family happened to be gay. If Hom is having an internal battle over dating someone a few years younger, Cake and Eiw must be struggling too. I know that some people do not like Eiw, but I have known guys like Eiw growing up. They were not gay, but they were smaller, not coordinated and not traditionally handsome. I think that Earth is doing a great job making me remember kids like Eiw. It will be interesting to see if Cake comes back to Thailand with a different perspective after being in the states for 3 years.

You're not paying attention enough. We watched the first few episodes where Pakon was running away from Tess anytime he saw him. Then to go from managing him 2 years prior, ending on bad terms to a hug. Then how Tess responded to Puen. They don't seem close at all.

I forgot about that guy. I'm only puzzled because it seemed like Pakorn was so happy and hugged Tess, which made me believe they were close in the other universe. Tess' response to Puen was not very enthusiastic.

Will they ever explain why only Tess remained unchanged? It looks like everyone else learned from their experience, except Tess.

When your best friend moves during childhood, it's rather devastating. Add in that Eiw loves Cake, and I think the feelings are mutual. It would be a sad event, regardless of opportunities because in high school, your friends are your life. They have internet access, so they can keep in touch, but they will both be busy. I guess that I'll be sad during the upcoming episodes. I do hope they will get their happy ending.

Nevermind. Posted in the wrong place.

It was sad when a person moved to another neighborhood. It hurts when you're still not an adult, but not a child either.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed their sex scenes too, and but I felt they communicated intimacy as well. Maybe Boss and Noeul made an agreement to flow with the characters' feelings, and it really showed on screen.

I keep waiting for Ayan's dam to break. Even though his classmates don't know it, he's under a lot of pressure right now. If Ayan would be vulnerable, Akk would not push back.

I think after the shared moment on the stairwell, they are no longer rivals. Inviting tag-a-longs happens in real life too. I have a friend to invites others all the time. With this person, I always tell them to make sure they know I'm coming. There's just people who are like that.

The intimate scenes between Boss and Noeul are some of the most natural that I've seen outside of out of the closet gay/bi actors. I'm not talking about the sex scene, but the moments in between. They do not hug from 10 feet away and when Rain looks at Phayu, I could feel the character was in love with Phayu. Noeul and Boss were fantastic this episode. This is how to play two guys in love.

Phai didn't get the info he was looking for yet, but next week it looks like the Phai and Sky arc will start.

Yes, because the trolling was over saying Kim In-hyeok wore makeup, was gay and did porn, all of which he denied. He could no longer take it after years of abuse. He even asked them to stop, but of course, they didn't. Even if all of it were true so what? Even on this board, the criticisms about Earth/Eiw's voice, mannerisms, etc., are almost always due to being overly feminine.

If I figure it out, I will let you know. You're correct the have been BL since ancient times, I've seen murals, mosaics, and shunga. Just like lesbian erotica has Sappho. I hope the hate ends soon too, because you're right, if Earth hurts himself, it would be just awful. I just think of that Korean volleyball player who was bullied to death, but at least people called netizens out. Athletes usually have stronger mental acuity, especially a professional athlete, but I guess everyone has their breaking point.

I'm not trying to hate, so please do not take my comment as hate, but just as a different point of view. BL was started decades ago for women by women, but unlike today, women were not as judgmental, nor were they prone to the idiotic view of today of all gays must be portrayed as Lawful Good saints. BL started to go mainstream in the early 1990's, and understanding history, the world was in the middle of the AIDS pandemic, and women were supporting persons with AIDS, regardless of population (IV drug users, kids, women, men, etc). AIDS largely afflicted gay men, and women, working as social workers, and nurses, worked on AIDS hospice wards, providing end of life care. Unlike today, people died very quickly post diagnosis, and it was a terrible death. Women weren't fantasizing about hunks being gay, and fetishizing them. Go to any gay sex store back then, and there was plenty gay fetish items meant for men. If it's still around, thumb through Honcho magazine, then say that it's women who fantasize about hot men/large peen. Also, the neko/tachi, top/bottom, seme/uke was not invented by women, it is from the gay community. If you're around gay men, or even in gay films, there are jokes alluding to this. I don't GAF what people do in the bedroom, or which position they assume. I don't ask my gay friends about their sex lives, anymore than I ask my female friends if they have period sex or anal. I just don't want women to take all of the heat. It's mainly some of the younger, newer, BL viewers who are bringing much of the hate, because many have been raised by a tablet or smartphone and do not have as much social decorum as others, even others in their peer group. Prior to K-Pop fans crossing over to BL, the vitriol wasn't as strong. K-Pop fandoms are much more toxic than BL. Just my opinion as a long-time BL reader. My opinion does not apply to most K-Pop fans, just the fans that drive their own artists to suicide, and self-harm.

Earth is a dear and I agree must be protected. Fem gay men have always borne the brunt of homophobia throughout history. Many of the gay slurs (even "gay" was a slur at one time) are "inspired" by fem gay men. In classic movies or TV shows, the obvious gay was the camp gay. I find them such strong men. They are themselves, even after being beaten, or used by trade, or by gay men who pass. I'm not sure where this hate is taking place (I do not have socials) but maybe I'll look for Wabi Sabi's address and write to him.

In my opinion, it's a hot mess with an unlikable main couple. I watched the 12 episodes, but not episode 0, and I am not planning to watch episode 0 due to my dislike for the main couple. There's alot of dumassery with Daonuea forgiving Nine for 500 mistakes, while dumping Tee for 1 mistake, then a stupid explanation as to why Daonuea and Nine would have been together, if not for the diabolical interference of Tee, mwahahaha (evil laugh). I finally watched episode 13, and really enjoyed it. You should make up your own mind whether or not to watch. I think reading the comments will lower your expectations to the point, where you may not find it that bad.

I finally watched episode 13 and I'm glad that I did. Tee and Ice did in one episode what Daonuea and Nine couldn't in 12, I actually cared about them, and hoped they would find happiness together. I still haven't watched episode 0, because to be honest, I do not care about Daonuea and Nine. This is the rare series where the leads made me not care about them at all.

I think that if we could see a novel or manga version, both In and Siam had feelings the whole time, so In got Rosalind as a cover, and pushed Siam toward Sasiwimol. In probably mistakenly thought that if he could make them become a couple, they would be happy, especially after having Wang. I think that In being "unavailable" is what pushed Siam toward Sasiwimol, until he couldn't take it anymore.

It is possible that Wang's friend would end up wanting to marry a woman, but it's also possible that having Wang as a partner would give him the strength to be his authentic self too. The character of Wang is so special, in fact, I can't believe that Sasiwimol would send such a lovely child to boarding school. I just want Wang to find someone who loves him, regardless of Siam. If In cannot overcome his guilt, or see Wang as an individual person, I will be okay if In and Wang do not have a happy ending, which is a rarity for me. I usually want a happy ending 100% of the time.

The acting was through the roof. If Siam did not die, In would not feel this way, it's Siam's death influences his thoughts and feelings. Had Siam lived and there was a divorce or separate bedrooms, In would not be this tortured. It's a big lesson to learn about not doing the thinking for another person, or deciding which life is best for another. I have friends who are like family, and we do not behave like Siam and In when taking photos. The undercurrent was always there, but when frightened, we try to move where it's safe, even if it means using others, such as Sasiwimol and Rosalind. Life was different then, but for some, life is still the same, even today. Sasiwimol could not have the one thing she wanted, In could not accept what he wanted.

Poor Wang has never had anyone who loved him the most. All of the adults were caught up in their constellation of their feelings. I thought that Wang sitting on the deck alone, was a perfect place for him to be. Although reminded, Sasiwimol did not shout out Wang, which was sad, I just caught on that Wang refers to his mother by name, and his dad by word for father. I'm starting to think that maybe Wang should give his classmate a chance, especially if In will not forgive himself, and allow himself to be happy. Wang deserves to be loved the most, not as an extension of his father.