Not a Robot

I'm not trying to hate, so please do not take my comment as hate, but just as a different point of view. BL was started decades ago for women by women, but unlike today, women were not as judgmental, nor were they prone to the idiotic view of today of all gays must be portrayed as Lawful Good saints. BL started to go mainstream in the early 1990's, and understanding history, the world was in the middle of the AIDS pandemic, and women were supporting persons with AIDS, regardless of population (IV drug users, kids, women, men, etc). AIDS largely afflicted gay men, and women, working as social workers, and nurses, worked on AIDS hospice wards, providing end of life care. Unlike today, people died very quickly post diagnosis, and it was a terrible death. Women weren't fantasizing about hunks being gay, and fetishizing them. Go to any gay sex store back then, and there was plenty gay fetish items meant for men. If it's still around, thumb through Honcho magazine, then say that it's women who fantasize about hot men/large peen. Also, the neko/tachi, top/bottom, seme/uke was not invented by women, it is from the gay community. If you're around gay men, or even in gay films, there are jokes alluding to this. I don't GAF what people do in the bedroom, or which position they assume. I don't ask my gay friends about their sex lives, anymore than I ask my female friends if they have period sex or anal. I just don't want women to take all of the heat. It's mainly some of the younger, newer, BL viewers who are bringing much of the hate, because many have been raised by a tablet or smartphone and do not have as much social decorum as others, even others in their peer group. Prior to K-Pop fans crossing over to BL, the vitriol wasn't as strong. K-Pop fandoms are much more toxic than BL. Just my opinion as a long-time BL reader. My opinion does not apply to most K-Pop fans, just the fans that drive their own artists to suicide, and self-harm.

Earth is a dear and I agree must be protected. Fem gay men have always borne the brunt of homophobia throughout history. Many of the gay slurs (even "gay" was a slur at one time) are "inspired" by fem gay men. In classic movies or TV shows, the obvious gay was the camp gay. I find them such strong men. They are themselves, even after being beaten, or used by trade, or by gay men who pass. I'm not sure where this hate is taking place (I do not have socials) but maybe I'll look for Wabi Sabi's address and write to him.

In my opinion, it's a hot mess with an unlikable main couple. I watched the 12 episodes, but not episode 0, and I am not planning to watch episode 0 due to my dislike for the main couple. There's alot of dumassery with Daonuea forgiving Nine for 500 mistakes, while dumping Tee for 1 mistake, then a stupid explanation as to why Daonuea and Nine would have been together, if not for the diabolical interference of Tee, mwahahaha (evil laugh). I finally watched episode 13, and really enjoyed it. You should make up your own mind whether or not to watch. I think reading the comments will lower your expectations to the point, where you may not find it that bad.

I finally watched episode 13 and I'm glad that I did. Tee and Ice did in one episode what Daonuea and Nine couldn't in 12, I actually cared about them, and hoped they would find happiness together. I still haven't watched episode 0, because to be honest, I do not care about Daonuea and Nine. This is the rare series where the leads made me not care about them at all.

I think that if we could see a novel or manga version, both In and Siam had feelings the whole time, so In got Rosalind as a cover, and pushed Siam toward Sasiwimol. In probably mistakenly thought that if he could make them become a couple, they would be happy, especially after having Wang. I think that In being "unavailable" is what pushed Siam toward Sasiwimol, until he couldn't take it anymore.

It is possible that Wang's friend would end up wanting to marry a woman, but it's also possible that having Wang as a partner would give him the strength to be his authentic self too. The character of Wang is so special, in fact, I can't believe that Sasiwimol would send such a lovely child to boarding school. I just want Wang to find someone who loves him, regardless of Siam. If In cannot overcome his guilt, or see Wang as an individual person, I will be okay if In and Wang do not have a happy ending, which is a rarity for me. I usually want a happy ending 100% of the time.

The acting was through the roof. If Siam did not die, In would not feel this way, it's Siam's death influences his thoughts and feelings. Had Siam lived and there was a divorce or separate bedrooms, In would not be this tortured. It's a big lesson to learn about not doing the thinking for another person, or deciding which life is best for another. I have friends who are like family, and we do not behave like Siam and In when taking photos. The undercurrent was always there, but when frightened, we try to move where it's safe, even if it means using others, such as Sasiwimol and Rosalind. Life was different then, but for some, life is still the same, even today. Sasiwimol could not have the one thing she wanted, In could not accept what he wanted.

Poor Wang has never had anyone who loved him the most. All of the adults were caught up in their constellation of their feelings. I thought that Wang sitting on the deck alone, was a perfect place for him to be. Although reminded, Sasiwimol did not shout out Wang, which was sad, I just caught on that Wang refers to his mother by name, and his dad by word for father. I'm starting to think that maybe Wang should give his classmate a chance, especially if In will not forgive himself, and allow himself to be happy. Wang deserves to be loved the most, not as an extension of his father.

I'm going to give this a chance since at least they didn't screw the actors over like they did the original 2 Moons cast. It took me over a year and an interview of the cast of 2Moons2 to watch it because of the dirtiness involved.

Worried the heart is the literal organ, like in 1,000 Stars, but one of the leads dies.

The divider is very aesthetically gorgeous, and you make a good point about In being an architect. He would have a different mindset, plus he seems somewhat spiritual and likes bringing nature indoors. I would just bump into it, and knock it over at least twice a week.

MDL can be a 7th grade mental zone at times. Everything is rape, everything is toxic, the inability to think critically and provide analytical criticisms by some users is what leads to this conclusion.

I think that many people feel the same way you do. My favorite local playhouse has the stage at ground level, and I like to sit in the first row, and this series has the same type of vibe. The overacting just annoys me at times because it isn't as necessary on film. In a play when In does his series of monologues, we would have been able to see Wang's face and body language, so we would know how he feels. I felt that I should have been emotional, (I cry easily during shows) and I had dry eyes. I think that this is a great series, I just am having a hard time adjusting.

The room divider is not random for stage, but in a normal house, it would not be in the middle of the room, especially if only one person lives in the house. This is not a film of a stage play, it's a series, so the stage like props do not hit me in a powerful way. That's what I'm not totally in love with. I understand the symbolism, I just do not like the stage feel as much. But we can disagree and still get along because I really like this series.

Very true. He will keep everyone looking good.

This was such a nice episode. Hopefully Puen/Tun's real name is on the wish. My biggest complaint is that YT rolled an unskippable ad in the middle of the bathtub scene. I think that Talay and Tun make a very caring and sweet couple.

I recently found out that Jimmy is an actual doctor. He has taken a huge risk to study medicine, then end up going into acting, when being a doctor is the safer and a widely admired career choice.

That scene also made me think it was a cut version. How did they go from a kiss to Akk just comforting Ayana? Anyway, I may have gotten The Eclipse confused with Vice Versa. I noticed today's episode is marked "uncut" but I've never seen a cut version. Sorry for the confusion.

I may have gotten it confused with Vice Versa. I noticed today's episode is marked "uncut" but I've never seen a cut version. Sorry for the confusion.

Episode 6 was the strongest yet. No western style preaching, just two people, still not totally trusting, but allowing themselves to be vulnerable. Both actors did a wonderful job bringing their characters to life. Well done!

Edited: I think I got this confused with Vice Versa. Today's VV episode is marked "Uncut." Maybe there are uncut versions behind a paywall but I don't want to start rumors.

Maybe they are related to the mysterious Pakun? They are from a mafia family in Don't Say No.

I love it, but I like the bully the one you love trope. I also think the love scenes are way spicier than the usual two Ken dolls kissing.

Great ending to a great series. Akira finally found his courage, and Shin, even though still very young, learned to try not to overwhelm Akira. Showing that holding hands is a sexual sign of love even if it did not lead to full on sex, was very special.

Thanks for the tip. Now it makes sense why Sasiwimol's character acts so much like Amanda in the Glass Menagerie. I hope the director learns to shift a little more for his next project. This is a very good drama, but the overacting and the long monologues are not my favorite. Talking to Wang about his father didn't hit me in the feels like it should have. Since this is the director's first series, I understand more that he is learning a new medium.