I feel many ppl here are condition love from their comments. Inflexible.
Some seek more emphaty... And understanding
unconditional love vs. conditional love.
In conditional love, love is 'earned' on the basis of conscious or unconscious conditions being met by the lover.
whereas in unconditional love, love is "given freely" to the loved one "no matter what". Loving is primary.
The difference between conditional and unconditional love is whether someone will be loved at all times, no matter what, or whether someone will be loved if they do or don’t do something. Unconditional love holds a feeling of acceptance and safety.
People who experience unconditional love feel secure in their relationship and feel comfort in knowing that even if they struggle or misstep, they will always have a safe place to fall back on for support.
Whereas, in conditional love, people oftentimes feel a lack of stability and trust. Moreover, they may feel like they have to mold who they are and what they do around someone else in order to continue receiving love. In all, unconditional love is something that is optimal for all of our relationships.
This is a great Ted talk and I See EO here. Many scenarios and thoughts/behaviors
This women has suffer her whole life. Seeked help...
"I had a cape on.... To hide.. deflect...I Lied"
We put that over tender selves so we don't have to be seen or can't be hurt. We pretend like the people we are supposed to be... We numb.. We hide and we pretend. That pretending does turn into a life of lies...
Because we don't feel safe telling that truth to the real world. We make our own word.
"I'm still nervous scared." I'm. Anxious.. Have high and lows... I use to numb my feelings & hide... I'm. Not afraid of my feelings anymore... They can come... They are guide to show me what to do
She battled it her whole life and will continue to have those days. There was a catalyst for her Epiphany. She chose to be honest... Speak her truth and help others
This is EO. That is what she is feeling and going through. She also has progress in accepting he fears and speaking that truth... No longer hiding....
That is growth.... There is no time line of when or how.... It is accepting that part.... Fear... And speaking your. Truth in an honest way.
It is not about excusing or justifying anything. It is understanding and not condemnation of a person.... Who is trying. Eo spoke her truth... Became honest... And is open....
"courage is to tell the story with your. Whole heart"
'whether you. Succeed or not is irrelevant.' There is not such thing. Making the unknown... Known is what is important.
JW didn't magically heal her with his love.... But he is willing to take that journey of discovery with her... Knowing those flaws.
She is not longer hiding.... Opening up with her honest feeling and vulnerability.... She didn't. Expect anything from him. She tells him... She. Still don't know... A mess... A coward... Scared... Nervous.... But. She. Is working on being her best/better version. They are going slow... Learning and dating
Again their experienced help with their functional communications.
That is reality... Like the the ted talk.
It is to be continue and some of us is fortunate to have someone along with the process and journey
I dont know about others but for me personally gender doesn't matter and I call out problematic behaviour regardless…
I feel there is no time limit to be a character will have a process of change...
It is at the fact that they are willing to do so.... And attempting it.
I felt that it was written in a realistic manner. Ppl life is a to be continue.
I felt he characters started the process on her own and isn't trying to rely on him. He is also not trying to "save" her. But is learning her along with her.
"How many times have we all watched dramas where the male lead has acted exactly like her? Where they push the…
It is an "Eh" for me.
I like the side characters. I continued for the interactions of the side characters.
I went into it knowing the type of tropes and genre it was. Half way point I got bored and knew how it will be. Typical historical romance of the girl who changes the playboy/fall in love
A tiny snippet...not a big spoiler
The M. L. HAS trauma. He was untilmately changed by her love at the very End after not talking for 2?3? Eps..... Hahaha....
Even at the end they never talked but blamed each other.
At least here... They eventually talked.... They vent out and yelled at each other and then had a few discussions that was open and honest
In bridgerton. I like brother and his mistress. I cheered when she was the one that left and broke it off... They were on again.... Emotions and feeling is a Bitch.... But she knew being her true self and self love was more important. And said bye bye for good.
I think I recommended this to you. Before. Nirvana in fire. It is a historical drama. A well played chess piece about brotherhood and comradery.
Historical. Goodbye my princess is a good Tragic story. War and palace gets a little dramatic.... I'm. Usually not into this type of drama. But I always kept an open mind to try always. It a.... It hurt so good drama to many.
I don't have a genre per se.... It is all in how it makes me feel when I watch it.... There is many... Hahaha.... This is ridiculous but I'm enjoying it....
Many ppl see this in a superficial way.... And not the subtle hints it has.
It is a happy ending but to me realistic of 2 flaw ppl starting their growth and learning from their mistake. It is 2 ppl dating again with no pretense and getting to know each other....
Still learning and growing.... He didn't solve any of her issues.... But wants to be in That journey together.
The characters came to an understanding. Because of what they been through and experienced, they are now able to better communicate and be open and honest.
She never chased after him. She worked with him. In a professional manner and he gave her space. She had never went back and forth with him continously.
EO had such a hard time opening up. She fully open up to him on the roof top. He display more patients. She display the new necklace.... She questioned the meaning... Or does she return it. She asked him. To meet.... She was honest.... I'm. A mess.... A coward... I'm. Scared and nervous and still don't know.....she was not running and hiding....
He is willing to get to know the EO with her... By starting out slow and just dating....
They have grown as a person through their experiences and mistakes. They saw each other at their worse.... There is less of a chance they will repeat what happened.
EO did many bad choices.... But she wasn't stucked there and is trying to learn and do better.
I see many ppl condem her for life and she is unforgivable. She is not lt. She did lots of things the wrong way. Even when she told him her thoughts. He was understanding and didn't pressure her but he still held out hope. Even if she did all of it the right way according to how ppl feel it should be. JW would have the same reaction....same coping that techniques and he will still have hope and try. She can't control what he does like he can't control what she does. We are not responsible for other people's actions. We are the catalyst for it. She apologized... But it was not the properly or right way... So it don't count... Huh? The character apologize a few times... Agree that she is horrible and suck. She said she rather be a Bitch and is selfish. She told him... She is like this and it won't work... They don't know each other.
Ppl heal and grow in their own time.... We can't forced our ideals of how they should do this and that according to how you Want it done. Again... Not wanting to repeat the same point I have pointed out.... Or the other takes I given.
I feel ppl are stuck on how it is suppose to be.... It suppose to be this or that way... (ideal way) ... To properly mean something or count. It is not... We fumble.... Try again....maybe do better.... Pending or processing
I guess the others are more fortunate than the rest of us In Their perfect world... Always making the right choices.... The right way... Doing and always saying the right thing and never hurting others because they are soo perfect. I conmend those who reach that level.
I'm always still flaw and learning from my mistakes and is glad to see characters like that. I like how they ended with them.... Learning and willing to grow.... Everything wasn't magically solved. But they will use their experiences and take the journey together.
Although I would do things differently..... I can appreciate and learn from it what is shown.... In Real life.... Things are always to be continued and worked on...
I would not date ppl who are in that state of mind and need mental health work. I have a few time decided not to continue dating them because of That. I work in the mental health field and is always willing to help. I also know the hard work and commitment it takes. I prefer someone with the same mental health level or higher since I'm. Also still working on myself. Self growth. Everyone I meet has taught me something.
One of my friend went through it. They are still at it. Getting married and having a child soon.
Again personal preferences... Tolerance. Understanding.... Compassion and the willingness to face the fear to learn and grow from it.
Love is an emotional bitch
All the great novels... Movies and songs are based on these crazy or good love experiences.
I feel some who don't experience it or have an understanding of mental health.... It shows.. They can't comprehend and have an inflexible thinking.... It has to be like that and that..the ideal way and no way that y can redeem unless they do it a certain way... Lol.... Many ppl who suffer from issues always feels lost and no one they can relate to unless they experienced it too. I was watching a documentary on Netflix... True crimes about this crazy hotel in L.A. At the end it was mental health issues and she had a psychotic breakdown. If only ppl were a little more empathic and asked if she was OK.
Kevin Hines 'cracked not broken' - surving suicide -
'I'm. Sitting here crying my eyes out. Hoping ppl can see my pain.... Ask me if I'm. OK. No one did. I couldn't say it... That I was in trouble... "
I recommend this to many people. I know of many ppl.... Friends... Friends of friends... Who committed suicides and those who are struggling now with their mental health.....
It takes a long time and long battle for many.... A Continuing process.....
I hope ppl would educate... Be more open minded and Compassionate.
Many who watch this can relate... Learn... And find it healing...
Unfortunately... I see lots of inflexible ppl who chooses only to condemn.... The process of the changes takes time and patients..... They did it well here.... It was in process....
He was her friend.... Until he finally got a chance. They didn't start to date until. Way afterwards. After college.
He just went along with whatever she said and want.
I was in an 8 year relationship of a roller-coaster before I had that Epiphany that was forced upon me by a final break up. Hahaha..... I have no regrets. I Learnt from it and it made me have to grow better as a person and now I know what I want.
I mean... I had to do 3 months of listening to positive affirmation day and night... Had a break down or two alone. Like EO.... I don't tell ppl my issues no matter how close I am to them. Unfortunately ppl I knew will not be supportive
Everyone is insecure in some way or the other but not everyone walks all over other people's feelings due to their…
She didn't hunt him down and went after him. She was professional in her work environment. He gave her space. She wanted answered about the necklace.... Her character is a mess who made many mistakes and I have pointed that out.... But what she did is not something we need to condem for life. From your response. She can never really redeem herself unless it was according to your. Standards and ideals.
She didn't figure it all out.
She said as much..... She clearly said she is still a mess and is a coward and don't know who she is..... But she is letting go of that fear and is trying....
They did not say she had an Epiphany over night.... But she decided to not like others decide who she is and will try to do it.
He also said he will date and Learn.... Who she really is along with her.... Her likes... Ect...
It is not a magically happy ending of them figuring it out.
It's ended with 2 characters having better understanding. .. Functional Communications and being open and honest...
They saw each other at their worse. Their relationship and reactions to future situations will be better by because of everything they been through.
She is open and honest about the real her.... She is a mess.... A coward and is still figuring it out.... No pretense. She is no longer hiding.
He asked what should they do... Now they are dating. She wanted him. To call her by her real name... Her name EO... As they preceded to learn about each other.... Likes... Ect.... They both have started on their growth....
A relationship is not a mature rainbow and sunshine.
Some Ppl who had spouse who cheated has been able to work it out... Redeem and have better relationship
I'm. Glad your. World is full of perfections.... Not making mistakes and always know how to properly act
The rest of us 80% or so.... Is just flawed human who makes lots of mistakes and trying to figure it out
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Some seek more emphaty... And understanding
unconditional love vs. conditional love.
In conditional love, love is 'earned' on the basis of conscious or unconscious conditions being met by the lover.
whereas in unconditional love, love is "given freely" to the loved one "no matter what". Loving is primary.
The difference between conditional and unconditional love is whether someone will be loved at all times, no matter what, or whether someone will be loved if they do or don’t do something. Unconditional love holds a feeling of acceptance and safety.
People who experience unconditional love feel secure in their relationship and feel comfort in knowing that even if they struggle or misstep, they will always have a safe place to fall back on for support.
Whereas, in conditional love, people oftentimes feel a lack of stability and trust. Moreover, they may feel like they have to mold who they are and what they do around someone else in order to continue receiving love. In all, unconditional love is something that is optimal for all of our relationships.
Ppl are stucked on condition love.... How they want ppl to be according to them... VS. Some ppl are unconditional... Understanding
It's not a perfect drama... It gave me laughs... And entertained me
She told him. He don't know her. Her likes.... Attitudes.
He is responsible for himself and how he act or react. She is a catalysts but she didn't force anything on him.
Even on the roof. She didn't ask to get back together. She didn't force him.
She is open.... Honest. She is still a mess...a coward... Scared and nervous.... She is still to be continue with working on discovering her....
He accepts that and is willing to learn the new her with her.... Slowly
They experienced and been through each other at their worse and learn... Seek to be better
Again to be continue... Like all life
Many ppl in real life have these stories.... There is plenty of ppl who had these shared experiences
Nothing is happy ever after..... It is always to be continue....
Just like real life.... To be continue until. The next story.... Change....
Just like the world.... History is repeating itself in some shape or form
They recognize it.....
It is an explanation not an excuse or justification.
I said That many times... Others had too in some sense.
She is not stuck and is trying. I will not condemn her for life nor burn her at the stake for that....
She had self reflection... Growth and is in the process of doing better
This women has suffer her whole life. Seeked help...
"I had a cape on.... To hide.. deflect...I Lied"
We put that over tender selves so we don't have to be seen or can't be hurt. We pretend like the people we are supposed to be... We numb.. We hide and we pretend. That pretending does turn into a life of lies...
Because we don't feel safe telling that truth to the real world. We make our own word.
"I'm still nervous scared." I'm. Anxious.. Have high and lows... I use to numb my feelings & hide... I'm. Not afraid of my feelings anymore... They can come... They are guide to show me what to do
She battled it her whole life and will continue to have those days. There was a catalyst for her Epiphany. She chose to be honest... Speak her truth and help others
https://youtu.be/NHHPNMIK-fY
This is EO. That is what she is feeling and going through. She also has progress in accepting he fears and speaking that truth... No longer hiding....
That is growth.... There is no time line of when or how.... It is accepting that part.... Fear... And speaking your. Truth in an honest way.
It is not about excusing or justifying anything. It is understanding and not condemnation of a person.... Who is trying. Eo spoke her truth... Became honest... And is open....
"courage is to tell the story with your. Whole heart"
'whether you. Succeed or not is irrelevant.'
There is not such thing. Making the unknown... Known is what is important.
JW didn't magically heal her with his love.... But he is willing to take that journey of discovery with her... Knowing those flaws.
She is not longer hiding.... Opening up with her honest feeling and vulnerability.... She didn't. Expect anything from him. She tells him... She. Still don't know... A mess... A coward... Scared... Nervous.... But. She. Is working on being her best/better version. They are going slow... Learning and dating
Again their experienced help with their functional communications.
That is reality... Like the the ted talk.
It is to be continue and some of us is fortunate to have someone along with the process and journey
Ppl are just seeing it in a superficial way.... Constant bashing
I feel real life is a.... To be cont.....
Or continuing from where they are at.
Because they will see each other at their worse.... And will learn from it... Improve because of that. (seek to grow).
I been saying the same thing over and over.
It is now soo comical.
The other m. L. Don't have that growth.... They were changed by love 90% of the time.
I don't feel they are change by love here.... They are changed by their experiences... Eo reflecting and being ready to face that fear....
Learning together.... With those work in progress acknowledgement
It is at the fact that they are willing to do so.... And attempting it.
I felt that it was written in a realistic manner. Ppl life is a to be continue.
I felt he characters started the process on her own and isn't trying to rely on him. He is also not trying to "save" her. But is learning her along with her.
I see them being forgiving and not call out other characters when they also is flawed and have toxic behaviors..... Bias
I like the side characters. I continued for the interactions of the side characters.
I went into it knowing the type of tropes and genre it was. Half way point I got bored and knew how it will be. Typical historical romance of the girl who changes the playboy/fall in love
A tiny snippet...not a big spoiler
The M. L. HAS trauma. He was untilmately changed by her love at the very End after not talking for 2?3? Eps..... Hahaha....
Even at the end they never talked but blamed each other.
At least here... They eventually talked.... They vent out and yelled at each other and then had a few discussions that was open and honest
In bridgerton. I like brother and his mistress. I cheered when she was the one that left and broke it off... They were on again.... Emotions and feeling is a Bitch.... But she knew being her true self and self love was more important. And said bye bye for good.
I think I recommended this to you. Before. Nirvana in fire. It is a historical drama. A well played chess piece about brotherhood and comradery.
Historical. Goodbye my princess is a good Tragic story. War and palace gets a little dramatic.... I'm. Usually not into this type of drama. But I always kept an open mind to try always. It a.... It hurt so good drama to many.
I don't have a genre per se.... It is all in how it makes me feel when I watch it.... There is many... Hahaha.... This is ridiculous but I'm enjoying it....
As long as it entertains you brings you joy
It is a happy ending but to me realistic of 2 flaw ppl starting their growth and learning from their mistake. It is 2 ppl dating again with no pretense and getting to know each other....
Still learning and growing.... He didn't solve any of her issues.... But wants to be in That journey together.
The characters came to an understanding. Because of what they been through and experienced, they are now able to better communicate and be open and honest.
She never chased after him. She worked with him. In a professional manner and he gave her space. She had never went back and forth with him continously.
EO had such a hard time opening up. She fully open up to him on the roof top. He display more patients. She display the new necklace.... She questioned the meaning... Or does she return it. She asked him. To meet.... She was honest.... I'm. A mess.... A coward... I'm. Scared and nervous and still don't know.....she was not running and hiding....
He is willing to get to know the EO with her... By starting out slow and just dating....
They have grown as a person through their experiences and mistakes. They saw each other at their worse.... There is less of a chance they will repeat what happened.
EO did many bad choices.... But she wasn't stucked there and is trying to learn and do better.
I see many ppl condem her for life and she is unforgivable. She is not lt. She did lots of things the wrong way. Even when she told him her thoughts. He was understanding and didn't pressure her but he still held out hope. Even if she did all of it the right way according to how ppl feel it should be. JW would have the same reaction....same coping that techniques and he will still have hope and try. She can't control what he does like he can't control what she does. We are not responsible for other people's actions. We are the catalyst for it. She apologized... But it was not the properly or right way... So it don't count... Huh? The character apologize a few times... Agree that she is horrible and suck. She said she rather be a Bitch and is selfish. She told him... She is like this and it won't work... They don't know each other.
Ppl heal and grow in their own time.... We can't forced our ideals of how they should do this and that according to how you Want it done. Again... Not wanting to repeat the same point I have pointed out.... Or the other takes I given.
I feel ppl are stuck on how it is suppose to be.... It suppose to be this or that way... (ideal way) ... To properly mean something or count. It is not... We fumble.... Try again....maybe do better.... Pending or processing
I guess the others are more fortunate than the rest of us In Their perfect world... Always making the right choices.... The right way... Doing and always saying the right thing and never hurting others because they are soo perfect. I conmend those who reach that level.
I'm always still flaw and learning from my mistakes and is glad to see characters like that. I like how they ended with them.... Learning and willing to grow.... Everything wasn't magically solved. But they will use their experiences and take the journey together.
Although I would do things differently..... I can appreciate and learn from it what is shown.... In Real life.... Things are always to be continued and worked on...
I would not date ppl who are in that state of mind and need mental health work. I have a few time decided not to continue dating them because of That. I work in the mental health field and is always willing to help. I also know the hard work and commitment it takes. I prefer someone with the same mental health level or higher since I'm. Also still working on myself. Self growth. Everyone I meet has taught me something.
One of my friend went through it. They are still at it. Getting married and having a child soon.
Again personal preferences... Tolerance.
Understanding.... Compassion and the willingness to face the fear to learn and grow from it.
Love is an emotional bitch
All the great novels... Movies and songs are based on these crazy or good love experiences.
I feel some who don't experience it or have an understanding of mental health.... It shows.. They can't comprehend and have an inflexible thinking.... It has to be like that and that..the ideal way and no way that y can redeem unless they do it a certain way... Lol.... Many ppl who suffer from issues always feels lost and no one they can relate to unless they experienced it too. I was watching a documentary on Netflix... True crimes about this crazy hotel in L.A. At the end it was mental health issues and she had a psychotic breakdown. If only ppl were a little more empathic and asked if she was OK.
Kevin Hines 'cracked not broken' - surving suicide -
'I'm. Sitting here crying my eyes out. Hoping ppl can see my pain.... Ask me if I'm. OK. No one did. I couldn't say it... That I was in trouble... "
https://youtu.be/vGPktsXlhTA
I recommend this to many people. I know of many ppl.... Friends... Friends of friends... Who committed suicides and those who are struggling now with their mental health.....
It takes a long time and long battle for many.... A Continuing process.....
I hope ppl would educate... Be more open minded and Compassionate.
Many who watch this can relate... Learn... And find it healing...
Unfortunately... I see lots of inflexible ppl who chooses only to condemn.... The process of the changes takes time and patients..... They did it well here.... It was in process....
EO didn't go after him. She was asking about the necklace.... Return it? She don't know.
With their experience they learn to be more open and honest.... Which will help them in the future.
She is clear and open with who she is.... Not hiding or pretense. He is patient and want to Learn about the real EO and grow with her
I don't think they were dating for 10 years.
He was her friend.... Until he finally got a chance. They didn't start to date until. Way afterwards. After college.
He just went along with whatever she said and want.
I was in an 8 year relationship of a roller-coaster before I had that Epiphany that was forced upon me by a final break up. Hahaha..... I have no regrets. I Learnt from it and it made me have to grow better as a person and now I know what I want.
I mean... I had to do 3 months of listening to positive affirmation day and night... Had a break down or two alone. Like EO.... I don't tell ppl my issues no matter how close I am to them. Unfortunately ppl I knew will not be supportive
She didn't figure it all out.
She said as much..... She clearly said she is still a mess and is a coward and don't know who she is..... But she is letting go of that fear and is trying....
They did not say she had an Epiphany over night.... But she decided to not like others decide who she is and will try to do it.
He also said he will date and Learn.... Who she really is along with her.... Her likes... Ect...
It is not a magically happy ending of them figuring it out.
It's ended with 2 characters having better understanding.
.. Functional Communications and being open and honest...
They saw each other at their worse. Their relationship and reactions to future situations will be better by because of everything they been through.
She is open and honest about the real her.... She is a mess.... A coward and is still figuring it out.... No pretense. She is no longer hiding.
He asked what should they do... Now they are dating. She wanted him. To call her by her real name... Her name EO... As they preceded to learn about each other.... Likes...
Ect.... They both have started on their growth....
A relationship is not a mature rainbow and sunshine.
Some Ppl who had spouse who cheated has been able to work it out... Redeem and have better relationship
I'm. Glad your. World is full of perfections.... Not making mistakes and always know how to properly act
The rest of us 80% or so.... Is just flawed human who makes lots of mistakes and trying to figure it out