I've talked elsewhere about this drama's controversy, so what I'll say here is that many Koreans think that people…
I meant to add that your comment about Nazis bothers me. A lot.
I don't care if they had families or had changes of heart or "became good people". Nazis subscribe(d) to an ideology that submitted 12,000,000 people--at least half of whom were Jews--to rape, torture, beatings and their ultimate deaths.
People who subscribe(d) to this ideology are failures as human beings, and there should be no attempt ever to make anything about them anything except evil.
I've talked elsewhere about this drama's controversy, so what I'll say here is that many Koreans think that people outside South Korea are underestimating the importance of the Democracy movement to them. Many, many Koreans are so hurt by indifference to this history, and what the Democracy movement cost them. It's a fresh, deep wound, and efforts to close it up or whitewash it (which is one of the things they perceive this drama is attempting to do) are going to go over like a flaming bag of poop.
I'm going to honor them and stand in solidarity. Not watching a drama that is painful to them is the least I can do.
Well, you can watch it raw then? You didn't have to annoy yourself and watch it there. I didn't have a problem…
The servers buffered every 5 seconds for me, too. And it was annoying,
But she is an angel for subbing this lakorn, and I'm incredibly glad to be able to watch the show. Any criticism of people who sub Thai programs needs to be done from a position of respect and gratitude.
omg A business proposal will be on netflix. Best news of the year!
The one I was looking most forward to. Geoblocked in my region. I feel like tearing off my arm and beating Netflix to death with it. (Might be a slight overreaction.) Maybe too soon to say.
But the salient point is that this actor was 10 years old. Ten. Dragging this kind of information out about a person when they were a child is not good, and says quite a lot about the individual(s) who made it public. Revenge? Payback?
I'd like to think that we refuse to participate in this story's amplification. What social media does in Korea is up to them, but they should start looking at themselves and what they're getting out of ruining people for things they did when they were children.
Not in the business of telling other people what to do, and I appreciate commenting here at this site, but this story is not well done of us, I think.
This is true, but even back in the 70's, police (and I mean police worldwide) fenced off crime scenes with tape and kept non related people out of the area. There was no CCTV, smart phones, DNA tests to establish paternity, etc., but this doesn't mean that police didn't solve crimes, or that victims and witnesses had to do the investigating themselves. This is not even good story telling.
This was on my watch list at Netflix forever, and I randomly decided to watch it.
This is a slow, measured drama. The cast is very good with this material. I watched all 16 episodes, and lately, that's saying something in itself.
There is a not very well explained time jump where the FL goes off to do . . ..what, exactly? Find herself, maybe? It's dumb, and drags down the show right at the end where you really don't want it. Sometimes, time jumps are so that one or more of the characters can go off and do some character development off screen (which is just lazy story telling), but since the FL comes back the same as before she left, it just seems pointless.
So much dumb in the last two episodes of this. This is another Thai show where characters commit murder, but other characters have to solve the murder, including finding the evidence, handing the whole package to the police, nice and tidy like.
But before that happens, while the police are searching the crime scene, one of the villains walks onto the scene, picks up the murder weapon and pockets it. It's literally the dumbest thing I've ever seen in a drama, and that's saying something.
Why do scriptwriters treat Thai police so badly? Why do they write dumb stuff like this, as if their audience is made up of 7 year olds?
Watched this, found it unexpectedly addictive, but ultimately predictable and somewhat boring. Not sure how a show that's predictable and boring can also be addictive, but there you go.
Very, very pretty people with stunning bodies which seems to be what the producers were looking for, but I was left thinking that I didn't want to know any of them better. You can probably bet your house that none of them were together after the cameras stopped rolling.
Welp, I've watched two episodes of this, and I'm completely lost about the plot. The FL seems like a high functioning sociopath, the ML is a slut, the elders are on the take, and the siblings are entitled greed heads. Most of the kids seem okay, except for that one who had to be paid to attend a funeral.
I hate all the characters so far. This is going to be a show like Love and Marriage (ft. Divorce) where you despise all the characters, invest in none of them, and there's nothing to do but watch all the characters crash into each other like unmoored cars on a roller coaster.
It's a dumpster fire of a show. Naturally, I'll be watching all 20 episodes, because this is my kind of trash.
I watch and finish a few Cdramas that I hate watch. I've watched many, many Cdramas and I know what to expect (nothing) and be grateful if the FL can stand upright and finish a sentence. Most of the time, if a Cdrama manages to go even lower than my already low expectations, I drop it, but not before throwing it on the floor and stomping on it.
Thai dramas, now Thai dramas are whole different universe. I think you're supposed to hate watch most of these. I watched a few last year that brought me to the point of near screaming, cursing the producers and scriptwriters as incompetent, misogynistic fools. These are true hate watches.
I'm commenting on this:
"There are movies showing Nazis in a good light – they were people, they had families, they had changes of heart and became good people."
I don't care if they had families or had changes of heart or "became good people". Nazis subscribe(d) to an ideology that submitted 12,000,000 people--at least half of whom were Jews--to rape, torture, beatings and their ultimate deaths.
People who subscribe(d) to this ideology are failures as human beings, and there should be no attempt ever to make anything about them anything except evil.
I'm going to honor them and stand in solidarity. Not watching a drama that is painful to them is the least I can do.
But she is an angel for subbing this lakorn, and I'm incredibly glad to be able to watch the show. Any criticism of people who sub Thai programs needs to be done from a position of respect and gratitude.
But the salient point is that this actor was 10 years old. Ten. Dragging this kind of information out about a person when they were a child is not good, and says quite a lot about the individual(s) who made it public. Revenge? Payback?
I'd like to think that we refuse to participate in this story's amplification. What social media does in Korea is up to them, but they should start looking at themselves and what they're getting out of ruining people for things they did when they were children.
Not in the business of telling other people what to do, and I appreciate commenting here at this site, but this story is not well done of us, I think.
This is a slow, measured drama. The cast is very good with this material. I watched all 16 episodes, and lately, that's saying something in itself.
There is a not very well explained time jump where the FL goes off to do . . ..what, exactly? Find herself, maybe? It's dumb, and drags down the show right at the end where you really don't want it. Sometimes, time jumps are so that one or more of the characters can go off and do some character development off screen (which is just lazy story telling), but since the FL comes back the same as before she left, it just seems pointless.
Why do writers put these in the story?
So much dumb in the last two episodes of this. This is another Thai show where characters commit murder, but other characters have to solve the murder, including finding the evidence, handing the whole package to the police, nice and tidy like.
But before that happens, while the police are searching the crime scene, one of the villains walks onto the scene, picks up the murder weapon and pockets it. It's literally the dumbest thing I've ever seen in a drama, and that's saying something.
Why do scriptwriters treat Thai police so badly? Why do they write dumb stuff like this, as if their audience is made up of 7 year olds?
Aaargh!
You can binge watch the entire series in 7 hours or so, and you'll want to.
Very, very pretty people with stunning bodies which seems to be what the producers were looking for, but I was left thinking that I didn't want to know any of them better. You can probably bet your house that none of them were together after the cameras stopped rolling.
I hate all the characters so far. This is going to be a show like Love and Marriage (ft. Divorce) where you despise all the characters, invest in none of them, and there's nothing to do but watch all the characters crash into each other like unmoored cars on a roller coaster.
It's a dumpster fire of a show. Naturally, I'll be watching all 20 episodes, because this is my kind of trash.
Thai dramas, now Thai dramas are whole different universe. I think you're supposed to hate watch most of these. I watched a few last year that brought me to the point of near screaming, cursing the producers and scriptwriters as incompetent, misogynistic fools. These are true hate watches.