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Replying to TheWonderOne Dec 25, 2020
Title MIU 404
Just wanted to say that reading your comments have been really fun and enjoyable, made me think more about Ibuki…
Yes! I'm so happy)))
Replying to Coriander Dec 24, 2020
I know this is a rather old(?) article but I've been bingewatching this and it's been a fun ride! Great write-up…
Thanks!) I'm happy you are enjoying MIU! I'm getting ready to do a rewatch during this winter holidays myself)))
Replying to Dylan Rodrigues Nov 9, 2020
Title The Wings of the Kirin Spoiler
Sexism? How so?
Yeah, I can totally imagine the filmmakers adding it themselves. And I suspect the slow pace of the movie is also their fault. I should totally give the novels a chance if I stumble upon them some day.
Replying to Dylan Rodrigues Nov 7, 2020
Title The Wings of the Kirin Spoiler
Sexism? How so?
The main points come from the father figure aspect and the lack of female representation.

There are only two major female characters in the movie. One of them is young, hot, and in a vulnerable position (she is fired from her retail job while pregnant). Both her and the other female character are defined as mothers who make great sacrifices for their kids. Which is not a bad thing to do, obviously. But when being a mother is all a female character can be in a story - it's very sad.

The sacrificial angle is also nothing to praise cause women historically were expected to put their families first and themselves second. Again, it's not a bad thing in itself - to sacrifice for one's family, but when there is no other choice but to make a sacrifice - it's not great.

Moreover, the storyline of the pregnant girlfriend was not handled greatly. I understand this is a sensitive topic for a lot of people. But I personally would like to see the main character supporting the pregnant girlfriend of the victim by giving her agency and asking her 'what would you like to do?' without judgement. Instead he sort of implies that abortion is for weaklings and asks her 'what would the dead father of a child would want' because, obviously, his opinion and opinion of the dead father are more important that what the pregnant woman would want for herself.

Again, there is nothing wrong with female character who decides to keep the baby. But the fact that she needs to rely on the guidance of the older male character (who will have nothing to do with the child going forward), that she seeks his approval while making her choice - it all reeks of good old patriarchal values. Would the main character smile at her in the end if her choice was different? I doubt it.

Then there is a main storyline where rebellious teenager discovers that his father was a good caring father all along. Why is that sexist? Because the father (patriarch) figure turned out to be a harmless sweet man who others shouldn't have doubted/complained about. When one is a patriarch, one gets tired of all the complaints and wouldn't mind seeing a fantasy where those complaining tearfully realised their mistakes and regretted them bitterly.

I understand I sound picky and cynical, but just switch the genders of all those characters. What if a daughter doubted her distant hapless mother only to learn that her mother was a sweet caring parent all along? What if a young hot boyfriend of a victim was left with an infant and was considering adoption? And an old tough female detective would ask 'what her mother would want?' and imply that becoming a single father unexpectedly was just something one has to bear through?

That would be the movie I would want to watch.
Replying to Orangevine Sep 28, 2020
Title MIU 404 Spoiler
Here's some trivia about the finale from the MIU guidebook (Part3): - Okada Kenshi is just like Kokonoe in real…
Producer Arai insisted that there must be a romance between Shima and Kikyo. Nogi-san was very reluctant so she grudgingly wrote "past romance", i.e., Shima met Kikyo ten years ago and had a crush on her. But it didn't work out (he was too busy, she was too busy, she get married and was promoted while he was demoted). So Shima never really confessed and gave up. He doesn't pursue her. However, he still has fondness for her so when they are alone in ep 10, he is trying to impress her (and wouldn't mind a night of passion). Nogi-san, though, laughed at the notion that Shima's feelings would ever be returned.
On MIU 404 Sep 28, 2020
Title MIU 404
Here's some trivia about the finale from the MIU guidebook (Part3):

- Okada Kenshi is just like Kokonoe in real life - he's very cute but he needs time to warm up to people. He was particularly nervous at first because of the stellar cast.

- Aso Kumiko was very nervous to play that scene in ep 10 cause she's such a fan of Gen-san.

- Despite that Ayano Go is very famous for his acting skills, not only the producer Arai but even Suda were blown away by his performance. Arai-san said that many people in the industry were surprised that he can convincingly play such a character as Ibuki while Suda admitted that he watched everything there is to watch with Ayano Go but was still shocked. (One can speculate that Ayano Go's image of 'graveyard flower' and his famous ability to portray fragility and strength at the same time blinded people to the fact that he is indeed a chameleon actor who can play literally anything.)

- Shima and Ibuki were written with the actors in mind, moreover, Ibuki is bubbly cause the producer Arai-san was shocked that cool looking and scary Ayano Go is actually a puppy in real life. On the contrary, positive image of Gen-san is different from his real self. He's a lot closer to Shima in his character. However, the actors made the characters "their own" so they turned out different from the original concept.

- Gen-san was very happy that many fans wrote to his radio saying that Shima turned out like a real person that exists somewhere and not just a fictional character.

- Comments about romantic line in the spoiler tag below:
Replying to Orangevine Sep 28, 2020
Title MIU 404 Spoiler
Here's some trivia about the finale from the MIU guidebook (Part 2): (see under spoiler tag in the comment below)
- The director and Ayano Go were really into Ibuki shooting Kuzumi not just once but as many times as he could - until the bullets run out. "Ibuki would not stop until he spends all his bullets", Ayano Go said during the making of the final episode and that really impressed Hoshino Gen. The producers forbid it, though.

- The 'bad trip' sequence was not planned beforehand. The writer Nogi-san came up with the idea when she recalled how in ep 6 we are shown the fake flashbacks Shima wishes he had. "We can show the fake flashbacks our heroes do not want to have too". But Nogi-san and the producer Arai were convinced the sequence would be too complicated for the viewer. The director Tsukahara said, "Please rely on me. I'll have it done." And she did!

- The boat scenes and chase across the water were quite cheap which was very important cause the budget was running out.

- During the bad trip sequence the blue lamps are shining on the boat to signal that it's a dream (this is allusion to the orange lamps in ep 6).

- Gen-san was very excited to play Shima's death. But the shooting was very difficult and tiresome.

- Ayano Go explained that Ibuki does not hesitate at all when he shoots Kuzumi. Because as soon as Ibuki sees bloodied Shima, Ibuki is resolved to kill Kuzumi.

- The director said that if Ibuki's and Shima's situations were reversed (with Ibuki dying instead of Shima), Shima would have probably killed Kuzumi too.

- The director Tsukahara is really into Gen-san and into horror. So she wanted him to bleed even more and to look even more dramatic than he did. But she couldn't cause it's a mainstream drama.

- Ayano Go noticed that Shima and Ibuki share the same nightmare cause they are "that close as buddies".
On MIU 404 Sep 28, 2020
Title MIU 404
Here's some trivia about the finale from the MIU guidebook (Part 2):
(see under spoiler tag in the comment below)
Replying to Orangevine Sep 27, 2020
Title MIU 404 Spoiler
Here's some trivia from the guide book (Part 1):- Shima is the second son in the family that has five sons. So…
Ibuki's character stays mostly the same so he wears either total black looks or total white looks (Ayano Go compared himself to the Sun that either stays above and shines or goes over the horizon - but remains the same).

Shima's character, on the other hand, undergoes significant change. So when he works in the 1st Devision, he wears dark colors. During his MIU4 service, he grows as a person so he mixes dark and light colors (going from mostly dark to mostly light). Finally, he wears only light colors in 2020.

Ayano Go compared Shima to the Moon. In that sense, we can speculate that Shima's wardrobe changes as the phases of the Moon. In a sense, Shima begins to reflect more of Ibuki's (the Sun) light.
On MIU 404 Sep 27, 2020
Title MIU 404
Here's some trivia from the guide book (Part 1):

- Shima is the second son in the family that has five sons. So he was used to take care of his younger brothers and he can do every household chore perfectly (his fashionable apartment must be as orderly as Ibuki's room).

- Ibuki's wardrobe was picked by Ayano Go while Shima's wardrobe was inspired by hot wishes of the female staff. Everybody wanted to see Hoshino Gen in v-necks, however, the staff didn't want the viewers to get accustomed and take 'hot Shima' for granted so Shima wears really plunging necklines very sparingly. He wears one in ep 10, for example, in a scene when Shima is supposed to exude 'male sexiness'.

(For the context: in Japan, even women do not wear v-necks to work, for example, cause bare shoulders and v-necks are considered to be too sexy. Kikyo never wears v-necks, for example. So v-neck on a man is a very strong fashion statement (and a very sensual one). )

- Shima had a girlfriend when he worked in the 1st Devision but she dumped him cause he was busy all the time. He was promoted from MIU to the 1st Devision just after one year of work in MIU, he's that talented.

- Kikyo is older than Shima by 10 years (so she's 45).

- Ibuki listens to people that he has accepted. Perhaps, he gets too attached to them.

I'll add another spoilery bit about Shima's and Ibuki's wardrobes below under spoiler tag:
On MIU 404 Sep 24, 2020
Title MIU 404
Tomorrow fanartists will be using hashtag #MIU404感謝祭 on Twitter to express their gratitude to the cast and crew of MIU. Expect lots of gorgeous fanart (but beware of spoilers).
Replying to Orangevine Sep 24, 2020
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Oh! Unfortunately, I haven't seen her anywhere but I heard she was great in Haken. Do you think I should add her?…
Oh, what you described is exactly my criteria so I added her! Thanks)) (I mostly stick to detectives myself so I sometimes miss other famous dramas)
Replying to blimarch Sep 23, 2020
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What are your thoughts about Shinohara Ryoko?
Oh! Unfortunately, I haven't seen her anywhere but I heard she was great in Haken. Do you think I should add her? Haken is an iconic drama.
On MIU 404 Sep 22, 2020
Title MIU 404
This Friday a guide book will be released with the writer Nogi-san explaining how the script differs from the finished drama. As she admitted that the male leads turned out to be very different from her imagination, I can't wait for the detailes.
Replying to TheWonderOne Sep 22, 2020
Title MIU 404
Just wanted to say that reading your comments have been really fun and enjoyable, made me think more about Ibuki…
Aw, thanks!)) Just in case - if you haven't checked out sakuratree7772's twitter account, you might enjoy it - they translated almost every piece of trivia/interview about MIU.

Response to MIU in Japan has been tremendous. It is easily the best mainstream drama of the year. People even pointed out that MIU shames Hanzawa 2 by having such modern values while Hanzawa is still painfully stuck in the past.

Unlike Unnatural, MIU has two levels: the easy to enjoy superficial level and the hella clever level underneath. So both casual viewers and critics enjoyed it alike. There is a giant fandom that generated lots of buzz on the internet and bought everything there is to buy with MIU (they write fanfiction like crazy too with some of the fanfics featuring Shima and Kuzumi if you can believe it XD).

Ayano Go and Hoshino Gen are considered to start a new era in their careers because no one knew before MIU that Gen-san can act like that and look hot while doing it. Ayano Go is acclaimed actor but not many people watch his art house movies; with MIU out many people saw him giving such a performance for the first time. Aso Kumiko was compared with Amami Yuki and with that actress that plays in Doctor X which is the highest praise J-public can give an actress playing strong female character. Besides, one of the guest stars (in ep 8, you know who) was given an opportunity to showcase their acting which this star rarely gets despite their tremendous talent. People really appreciated that.

MIU also had great ratings and the highest index of viewers' satisfaction. By any metrics available, MIU is a total hit. The only critique it gathered was aimed at episode 5 with many Japanese viewers offended at the implications of the episode.

I actually agree with you about Suda. He played so many villains in his art house movies that his role in MIU barely scratches the surface of what he can do. He still did many amazing things there but, obviously, he could do a lot more if given a chance. That's why he said to the crew that the next time he wants a leading role in Nogi Akiko's drama.

Director's cut is so much better TT! And it's so sad we can't watch it until DVD comes out. They added lots of fluffy stuff (during the phone call from Ibuki in ep 6, there are many close ups on Shima and we can see his emotions much more clearly; ep 6 starts with Shima waking up from nightmare in the MIU4 HQ where we see how the four of them sleep together on the floor with Ibuki pretending to sleep but actually spying on Shima etc). The most prominent addition is in ep 11 where the climax scene was extended and the scene with Kyu-chan and Kikyo eating udon together was added instead of olympic narration. I shared the description of the scene in the comment under spoiler just above your comment. But if you want to know more - just send me a message.

I totally get you about the last 3 episodes! What a rollercoaster! Just in case: I know that the subs can be a bit unclear at times so if you have any questions about the plot or meaning or Japanese context etc - don't hesitate to ask me. Even Japanese viewers spent some times discussing the episodes on twitter before every bit of it was understood (for example, in ep 3 we see Narikawa standing on the crossroad just as the title 'branching point' appears and in the end we see how Narikawa keeps looking back hoping that someone will appear to get him back on the right track - stuff like that is not that hard to spot but the weekly discussions on twitter made spotting it a lot more simple.)

I'm just a MIU geek so thanks for reading my thesis, I appreciate it haha))
Replying to Duncan Sep 21, 2020
Title MIU 404 Spoiler
Yes I did not undestood the fake ending too... I think it would have been more meaningful if Shima actually protected…
I see what you mean but I think that moment felt a bit anti-climatic (with them not trying to ambush Kuzumi and his minion) because it was supposed to be anti-climatic.

J-dramas like to portray ordinary people so Shima and Ibuki are very much ordinary guys and not action heroes. They can't actually win in a Mexican stand-off or fight off armed criminals. And when one is just an ordinary human, one must follow a procedure which they did: they called police and marine police, jumped off when in vicinity of other ships and left the arrest to marine police. They are uncool like that)))

The anti-climatic part also comes from the fact that MIU is all about real life. Real life criminals wouldn't waste time shaming Shima and Ibuki, they wouldn't play any cat-and-mouth game etc. They'd just knock Shima and Ibuki out, tie them up, and drop them down somewhere in the sea. After all, it's we ourselves who know our greatest fears and who can create such terrible nightmares.

I also think (but please don't feel like you have to agree, it's just my interpretation) that what Shima did for Ibuki was a lot more sweeter/heroic than taking a bullet for Ibuki. Shima went to save Ibuki (and he didn't have to do that) only to get caught himself (he literally shared Ibuki's fate). He was ready to give up on his duty as a police officer (the most important thing to him) - ready to kill someone, and he actually died while trying. And he did all of that just to give Ibuki a fighting chance to survive.

By doing all that he admitted that he'd rather die than face a life without Ibuki and that he utterly trusts Ibuki to do the right thing. In a way, he entrust the world to someone he considers more worthy than himself - to Ibuki. And Shima spends his last breath trying to save Ibuki's soul, to stop him from murdering Kuzumi.

When Ibuki succumbs to his grief, we realise that Shima and Ibuki are that ordinary humans who would murder someone if driven to the brink, that they are not at all different from the criminals they catch. The only thing saving Shima and Ibuki turns out to be not some hero's dash to save them but ordinary acts of kindness (people visiting Jimba in the hospital, Kokonoe wanting to share a good news with them etc).

Anyway, that's my take, your take is totally valid too))
Replying to Duncan Sep 21, 2020
Title MIU 404 Spoiler
Can we watch it somewhere on internet ? The end was really strange in my opinion...
Ok, so Shima and Ibuki inhale the drug and see hallucination. First, we see Shima's "the worst nightmare".

After Kuzumi's minion puts a gun to Shima's head, Kuzumi says "You've lost". Shima replies, "I can still kill you with 50/50 chance". When Kuzumi points out that Shima will die anyway, Shima explains that it's ok cause he's tired and that keeping being a police officer and getting hit with a boomerang (with his regrets) is worse than death anyway.

Then Kuzumi says that Shima will die a pointless death cause there is a high chance that Kuzumi will survive. Shima says "You don't understand" and then he says his lines from the drama (about Ibuki not forgiving Kuzumi). What he means though is that Ibuki will arrest Kuzumi. The thought calms Shima a lot and he stops shaking. In the drama his last expression before the gun is fired is fearful, he's scared. But in the new version he's getting calmer and he's almost mischievous.

We realise that Shima's trust in Ibuki is so profound it literally calms him in the face of death (the trust and the relief that Ibuki will be saved when the gun is fired).

Then Kuzumi asks "But what about your partner? Don't you feel bad he'll be left dealing with it?" i.e. with Shima's death and with the temptation to kill Kuzumi. Shima replies while smiling "That's fine cause I am a selfish man". The gun is fired.

Then we see continuation of Shima's nightmare which also is Ibuki's nightmare.