RJ_Jacob101

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BurgerKing is boring, there I said it. Unpopular opinion but they are boring imo.

The actors are 9 years apart in real life, THAT is where the age gap is.

I liked this series but hated the finale. I didn't like the open-ending crap at the very end. I hate open-endings, or personal interpretations. I like conclusion, explanation and the satisfaction that comes from having the first two. I also found the deaths of Long and Joke to be over-the-top brutal. It just made me feel sorry for them and lessened the impact of Gus' death for me.. WHY show them to start wanting to stop the violence, to show hesitation and remorse only to kill them anyways? I guess that's what you get when you show compassion, they should have killed them right away but no conscience goes unpunished. No villain redemption arch, well then NO POINT in showing the bad guys to have second thoughts! That was a total lead-on. I won't go into my disappointment about the moon fall extensively. I understand the limits of lower-budget series and if the ending had been better for me then I wouldn't care at all, BUT the moon at that distance would be wreaking havoc with the Earth's tides, gravity and weather. Ending a series I enjoy in a bad way always pisses me off more than a bad series altogether, because it's irritation on top of disappointment. Also that baby scene seemed utterly pointless but maybe I missed the point as I was already annoyed at that time. Not saying its a bad series, I personally just hated the ending and NOT because everyone died, I expected that. I don't like the manner. BUT hey! If Art was dreaming the whole thing during his coma when he wakes up that the end then none of it mattered or happened anyways. This is why I hate open-endings. I, DON'T, WANT, TO, GUESS, MY, OWN, ENDING!

AGREE!!! I hate the whole "damsel in distress" trope, even for women, because its insulting. I like more equal couples.

Trapped and Crossing Borders were the best. Even the originals are better that History MODC, History 4 and so far History 5. They suck.

Trapped and Crossing Bordered were the best. Even the originals are better that History MODC, History 4 and so far History 5. They suck.

I think both Taiwanese AND Korean both suck. Japanese is SOMETIMES good, Thai is still king but still a lot of crap.

Boring so far, don't really like the pairings. HiStory used to be good.

Yeah I freaking HATE jock with nerd trope. Its SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO overdone in BL, in manga, in fanfiction, EVERYWHERE! Oh and I don't mean they are always EXACTLY a jock or nerd, more or less I mean;
Jock - strong, athletic, possessive, taller, manly, ect
Nerd - weaker, artistic or smart, sassy, shorter, boyish, ect

Not ALL of these traits always apply to a said character but its usually pretty close. I get the whole "OPPOSITES ATTRACT" thing, I just get sick of it. Not everyone I've dated has been my opposite. Sometimes I find people attractive because we're actually more similar.

I won't expect that though even though I'd like that. GMMTV is extremely formulaic and tropey. It would make the shippers cry as there's a bunch of people already angry at Ben because "oh no he interfere with my SHIP!!!" LOL no hate to them but come on people lol.

I see that Pond is still monotone as ever, how about having a bit of a personality in your characters? Oh but he's hot, so I should just ignore that right? Nah, no I shouldn't.

Straight couples in BL are completely unnecessary and not at all what I'm looking for when watching BL which is literally BOYS love. Completely agree! If I want a straight couple, I'll watch Titanic or the other MILLION of straight romances that already exist.

He's in another age gap now, again 10 years ugh lol. I try to avoid age gaps of actors over 5 years. 2 years if they are under 20 which usually thankfully isn't the case (most are in their 20's).

I wish they'd actually do a poly 3-way gay relationship, I've only seen that once a while ago. I'm not into having a poly relationship myself but it would be interesting to see three guys end up in a relationship together. No harem, no bigamy but equal poly.

Wow huge age gap... ugh no lol not for me.

Without Foon, I just don't care as much anymore, he was my favorite character :( Still I like the chemistry between the mains so I'll finish lol, I just miss Foon.

Actor playing Pluem looks like Nanon and Tay had a baby together.

They never focus enough on secondary couples... which are almost ALWAYS better than the main. There I said it.

Yeah I understand that BL isn't made for people like me. Problem is, the stuff that IS made for gay people is way under budget (which I can accept to a point) but its also extremely depressing. I HATE, lol and I stress the word, with a PASSION OF HATE sad endings. So I pretty much dislike all gay romance. Its depressing, its mean, it leaves me feeling empty at the end. At least BL is happy, I just don't like some of the tropes and problematic elements that seems to heteronormalize gay romance so no matter which media I consume, I'm gonna get disappointed lmao. Some BL is perfect, most is meh, some is terrible imo. And BL doesn't cut all the toxic masculinity out. Like possessive, overbearing, brooding, stoic, stereotypical broish manly men do appear in BL sometimes lol. I do think BL overall is getting better from my perspective but I still find myself cringing at certain elements.

That's kewl :), I'm not gonna say it shouldn't exist I just personally don't like straight-to-gay because its easier for me to believe in magic than people changing their sexuality lol. Now a "straight" guy discovering they also like guys then coming to the realization that they are bi or whatever, okay that totally happens so I can believe it. But like a true straight guy falling for that ONE and ONLY other guy, nah because thats like soulmates which I don't care for either because I don't think being fated to be together is a good thing. Free will, choosing to be with someone seems for balanced. Like I don't want guys forced together, I want them to come together.... no pun intended haha!

LMAO! Yeah true some probably are. There's been times I really like something, a story or piece of art only to find out the artist is a terrible person. Its weird how sometimes the best art is made by the worst people. Oh totally! I watch something messed up and then think to myself... what kind of mind comes up with this! LMAO! And you are right, a lot of messed up stuff isn't hate based or romanticizing trauma/rape/ect, but cathartic release. However I'm of a different mindset in that catharsis for me is best expressed by a total rejection of said troubling material and in its place a happier, healthier focus is placed on better elements. I don't like experiencing someone else's pain so why would I want to unload my own pain onto others in a story? I just think differently I suppose in that regard.

Sexual harassment/assault is common enough in the gay community. We may be gay, but we're also still men and men are (not all) dogs. Actually that's insulting to dogs... lmao! Again I'm kinda joking but men can be pushy. Also, male rape often goes unreported because of embarrassment unfortunately and is often not talked about because some people don't think its a real problem :( And see maybe that's where I have a disconnect with some people. To have a cathartic experience by indulging in sexual violence that's sometimes in BL seems counterproductive in the sense that its sometimes comes off as a romantization of the very thing they fear most happening to them. I hope I'm making sense lol, sorry if I'm kinda scattered.

That makes sense, and yes the gender of the person I'm with is important so therefore a clear sexuality is also important to me. Now this doesn't mean I don't want zero representation for non-binary, sexual fluidity, gender-non-conforming, ect. It just seems like sexual ambiguity is the majority of BL, especially in the past, and then I feel I cannot relate to the majority of those shows. And gay entertainment is already SEVERELY limited and pretty much always sad - and so when the more popular BL is the only stuff with happy endings and fluff, I feel left out of both camps of entertainment. I can see how a straight woman wouldn't care about a dude's sexuality as much when watching them kiss another guy because they aren't a gay man like me who is looking for something a little more concrete and grounded when it comes to labeling one's sexuality in order to feel a connection, a camaraderie, solidarity, with a character. We gays are a minority and its a lonely, mainly straight world so to connect with a character on that level feels special for me.

I understand what you mean but there are plenty of straight allies who don't have any dog in the fight when it comes to gay rights. They are just good people who care about more than just their own lives, their friends, their families, ect. Kinda like people who volunteer to help the less fortunate even if they themselves have always been fortunate. Like egalitarians, utilitarians, they want to maximize happiness but not just for people like themselves or others they know, but for all peoples. But you are right, in general, most people aren't that generous and concern themselves with things only when it directly affects them or someone they care about which is a sad but understandable fact of humanity as we are now.

Well those who cannot empathize with others outside their own world, at least in my opinion, are inward thinking. It seems selfish but hey we're all guilty of selfishness at times. Oh true! Yeah sometimes its like, this person doesn't know what they're talking about in this area, so they ought not exploit this for their own personal gain lol! I think all people should do a little research, no matter the subject material. I certainly don't know everything, I WILL humble brag! Haha! I love to admit my own faults, its liberating at it shows me where I need to improve as a person and human. Although self-deprecation if taken too far is definitely unhealthy. Everyone's opinion is important to someone, even if only to themselves, but true not every opinion can be or should be implemented. Especially when an opinion seeks to alienate others. And that's hard, I struggle all the time with trying to be inclusive without exclusion of others I see as "over-represented". I'm not perfect, sometimes I contradict myself and sometimes I'm hypocritical. I wanna be consistent but that is also difficult considering how changeable most people are. But I try lol.

YES! I enjoy talking with people who are interesting and can do good back and forths like this :D I can come off as aggressive, combative, snarky, bitter or dismissive at times so I appreciate that you don't get seem to get frustrated with me haha! I can be a bit overbearing in my opinions at times. And thank you! I'm just about to head to bed again haha! When it comes right down to it, I'm much more tolerant, open and less judgmental in life - I can just be really picky when it comes to entertainment/fantasy cuz sometimes I just feel left out even within my own community. Like I said, most gay romance made for gay people is just depressing and I like happy stuffs haha! BL gives me that happy side of gay romance, but then its not gay romance its BL and there again is my issue. I don't want BL to change completely just for me or others like me, I don't want to take away from others. However, I really do like it when BL tries to be a little more inclusive as I really do enjoy BL on the whole, way more than "realistic" gay romance - as if gay people can't have happy endings. BL shows us, even if unintentionally, that LGBT+ people CAN have a happy ending. Thanks again for the fun and interesting convo!

I am soooooo sick of the "we knew each other as children" BS trope, omg its like COME UP WITH SOMETHING ORIGINAL! Ugh, I hate tropes. LOL okay I like SOME tropes, but others just get done WAY too much, sorry for the small rant lol.