I don’t think his love for his teacher is the problem here, I think his teacher ‘love’ for him is the problem…
"Relationships without the deed doesn’t equal to platonic" - because of our conversation I refreshed my memory by watching the series again (01/2025) and I agree with you that ML and FL's feelings WASN'T platonic. It was unconsummated, but not platonic.
"I repeat 15year old kid is too young to handle relationships or emotions of an adult" - I agree with that too. However, I didn't notice that FL wanted to encourage him personally in any way, create a relationship or burden him with her emotions. On the contrary, she tried to cut it off in many ways, even by disappearing from school (after their kiss on the beach - initiated on his part) and not contacting him at all.. He was the one who found her after 3 years.
"You called me stupid for it but I dont care." - I can call an action stupid but not a person. Each of us has managed to do some stupid thing in life. 15 year olds can be different. They can be very childish and they can also be more mature than the rest of their peers. There is no point in putting them in the same bag – because treating everyone the same – is just stupidity. It was nice talking with you, thank you.
Btw in real life this story reminds me a bit of the vibe of Jason Momoa and Lisa Bonet's relationship. But nothing beats the French President's marital story.
I don’t think his love for his teacher is the problem here, I think his teacher ‘love’ for him is the problem…
Perhaps we understand the definition of platonic love differently.
The most important feature of platonic love is the lack of sexual involvement - as reputable sources claim. "People who share platonic love are not connected by a sexual bond."
To close the discussion - for me, this drama is still a beautiful love story that started with a crush when one of them was very young, but that the feeling endured and gained strength over the years - which proves that it was not a momentary whim - and they moved to another level when BOTH were adults. So we stick to our opinions, best regards.
I don’t think his love for his teacher is the problem here, I think his teacher ‘love’ for him is the problem…
Thank you for your answer. My point of view: Love is not a problem at all, it is a gift. Their love relationship - if I remember correctly - was only platonic (I mean without sex), so what are we even talking about?
If that's how - you and others - judge such relationships, we can go further, I understand that you would like to curse millions of Asian delulu fans who love their idols ONLY platonically even though they would like it otherwise.. Do you see the stupidity of this assumption now (not only yours I mean at all?
Even minority human relationships are normal in their extreme percentage. It is not the mainstream, but it occurs in nature, so it is also natural.. amen.
The drama was supposed to "put a stick in an anthill", i.e. stir our emotions and did it. I love J-dramas for that because they are not afraid to touch on controversial topics.. for me in Asia they are the bravest in this regard and kudos to them for that!
I support such dramas because they make you think, and if this couple, by creating a kind of obstacle course for their relationship, passed this test victoriously - then it is a true, deep feeling and I will always support such a feeling. It is remind me like a whole lot of childhood loves that are physically realized at a later age, and it does not matter whether persons are the same age or how much older one is. Greetings.
I like Japanese productions because they are juicy, bold and often take on difficult topics – something that other Asian countries rarely dare to do. And they can show intimacy in a very aesthetic and artistic way.
But I can no longer accept another dose of the image of culturally shackled/bound Japanese women, whose self-esteem is not even zero but in minus. Who are born with the word "sorry" on their lips: sorry that I am alive, sorry that I am a virgin, sorry that you love me and I have to refuse you.. It is impossible to take this anymore… brr..
FL and ML were not convincing to me, neither in what they said nor in what they did. The "love" of ML was artificial to me, but the stupidity and naivety of FL - cosmic.
Not only his style aand not only in this drama. I see this in many cases of Chinese, Japanese and even Korean dramas. I can give many examples, (such as the recently watched Song Kang in My Demon). It always looks caricatured and I don't understand why actors want to make themselves look so ugly.
No, she isn't. Type this word into Google - you will find help there on Wikipedia for example. Greetings.
I'm not worried about your education in general because that's your business. But if HERE ON THE FORUM you write comments incorrectly using an aggressive term - then I'm simply showing you that you're abusing a given word (in other words - you don't know what you're writing about and you're spitting - like some toxic anti-fan). That's all. Best regards.
PS To have an understanding of something - it's not necessary to have bad experiences with a given topic - as you tried to suggest. It's enough to have the appropriate education and be, for example, a court expert. I'm closing our communication - thank you for your answers. All the best.
No, she isn't. Type this word into Google - you will find help there on Wikipedia for example. Greetings.
It doesn't bother me at all, but I wanted to show you that you're confusing the terms - and using Google isn't much of an effort. But I see that you'd rather pick on me than familiarize yourself with the definition and not embarrass yourself any further. Is it possible that - for some reason - you're afraid to read this definition? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia and many other examples - to understand the topic. Regards.
I am full of admiration for the main actors.. Especially for ML, who was not even 20 when it was broadcast. They need to be open and brave to play it and they were very credible.
Only one small technical error bothered me during their time together, but I don't want to write about it..
Yes, but only one person per year - unless you break the contract then it might be faster.. :)
Ha ha ha.. in dreams-mind of "Korea" of course :)
Many years ago I entered into such a relationship, for a fixed term - 13 years. It was successful. And at the end there was a big Divorce Party. We still respect each other but we don't have frequent contact.
I would compare it to a couple dance. You dance with someone, the music and dance end, you thank each other, bow each other and move on..
What to say...the age gap in a love story could have been tolerable. But their relationship started as a pure…
I know you're not Japanese, but if you study a bit more contemporary Japanese approaches to sex, you can see for yourself that the film was realistic. And not just in Japan. It's realistic even in my Catholic (still!) country, even if the Catholic Church considers masturbation a sin for example - Life and Reality don't care about it and outdated approaches are becoming obsolete.
"I repeat 15year old kid is too young to handle relationships or emotions of an adult" - I agree with that too. However, I didn't notice that FL wanted to encourage him personally in any way, create a relationship or burden him with her emotions. On the contrary, she tried to cut it off in many ways, even by disappearing from school (after their kiss on the beach - initiated on his part) and not contacting him at all.. He was the one who found her after 3 years.
"You called me stupid for it but I dont care." - I can call an action stupid but not a person. Each of us has managed to do some stupid thing in life.
15 year olds can be different. They can be very childish and they can also be more mature than the rest of their peers. There is no point in putting them in the same bag – because treating everyone the same – is just stupidity.
It was nice talking with you, thank you.
Btw in real life this story reminds me a bit of the vibe of Jason Momoa and Lisa Bonet's relationship.
But nothing beats the French President's marital story.
The most important feature of platonic love is the lack of sexual involvement - as reputable sources claim.
"People who share platonic love are not connected by a sexual bond."
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/platonic-love
"intimate companionship or relationship, especially between two people, that is characterized by the lack of sexual involvement; spiritual affection"
To close the discussion - for me, this drama is still a beautiful love story that started with a crush when one of them was very young, but that the feeling endured and gained strength over the years - which proves that it was not a momentary whim - and they moved to another level when BOTH were adults.
So we stick to our opinions, best regards.
My point of view: Love is not a problem at all, it is a gift.
Their love relationship - if I remember correctly - was only platonic (I mean without sex), so what are we even talking about?
If that's how - you and others - judge such relationships, we can go further, I understand that you would like to curse millions of Asian delulu fans who love their idols ONLY platonically even though they would like it otherwise..
Do you see the stupidity of this assumption now (not only yours I mean at all?
Even minority human relationships are normal in their extreme percentage.
It is not the mainstream, but it occurs in nature, so it is also natural.. amen.
The drama was supposed to "put a stick in an anthill", i.e. stir our emotions and did it. I love J-dramas for that because they are not afraid to touch on controversial topics.. for me in Asia they are the bravest in this regard and kudos to them for that!
I support such dramas because they make you think, and if this couple, by creating a kind of obstacle course for their relationship, passed this test victoriously - then it is a true, deep feeling and I will always support such a feeling.
It is remind me like a whole lot of childhood loves that are physically realized at a later age, and it does not matter whether persons are the same age or how much older one is.
Greetings.
But I can no longer accept another dose of the image of culturally shackled/bound Japanese women, whose self-esteem is not even zero but in minus. Who are born with the word "sorry" on their lips: sorry that I am alive, sorry that I am a virgin, sorry that you love me and I have to refuse you..
It is impossible to take this anymore… brr..
FL and ML were not convincing to me, neither in what they said nor in what they did. The "love" of ML was artificial to me, but the stupidity and naivety of FL - cosmic.
It always looks caricatured and I don't understand why actors want to make themselves look so ugly.
That's all. Best regards.
PS To have an understanding of something - it's not necessary to have bad experiences with a given topic - as you tried to suggest. It's enough to have the appropriate education and be, for example, a court expert.
I'm closing our communication - thank you for your answers.
All the best.
We were building our own company together and during that time it was forbidden to break the marriage contract.
And I like the number 13. :)
I bow and greet you.
But I see that you'd rather pick on me than familiarize yourself with the definition and not embarrass yourself any further.
Is it possible that - for some reason - you're afraid to read this definition?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia and many other examples - to understand the topic.
Regards.
They need to be open and brave to play it and they were very credible.
Only one small technical error bothered me during their time together, but I don't want to write about it..
Many years ago I entered into such a relationship, for a fixed term - 13 years. It was successful. And at the end there was a big Divorce Party. We still respect each other but we don't have frequent contact.
I would compare it to a couple dance. You dance with someone, the music and dance end, you thank each other, bow each other and move on..
It's realistic even in my Catholic (still!) country, even if the Catholic Church considers masturbation a sin for example - Life and Reality don't care about it and outdated approaches are becoming obsolete.