"Take for example the concubines of a king planning and plotting against each other. Do you think they do…
You mean those current female presidents, senators, businesswomen, leaders ect.. That have only joined multiple layers of government within like the last 100 years? And who are still, in the vast majority of countries, the minority within the government... Yes the situation improves, but it's not equality yet. Google ''world leaders summit' sometime and look at group-pictures of countries leaders and tell me the gender-balance between men and women present. I hope that clears up some things.
There's two queen Elizabeths from England so specify which one next time if you want to pick a specific one.
''You're basically claiming that these women have no agency.'' That was indeed kind of a thing with concubines that they had extremely little agency. I mean, again, they were groomed into this role from their early teens and they quite literally were stuck in that palace for their entire lives.
"Take for example the concubines of a king planning and plotting against each other. Do you think they do…
''Either they're responsible or they're not. You can't have it both ways.''
-So you can't understand concubines carry responsibility and they were also underage teenagers groomed into this lifestyle simultaneously? They did awful things and killed others, but they were led into this lifestyle against their will to serve the needs of some powerful guy. So yea I will take their background into consideration when casting judgement on their actions.
''Queen Elizabeth and Margaret Thatcher were definitely not figure heads.' -As for the rest, that's a case by case thing. Some perpetuate the male-dominant systems and some fight against it I guess. Somehow this went from historical suffering of concubines to now modern politics. Queen Elizabeth with her funding of Andrew and Margaret with her defunding of childcare definitely did some women-unfriendly things.
But the point is; a female leader doesn't equate a system that uplifts women in general (or a matriarchy). Because for that to happen, all layers of power need to have women in them. Which historically has not often been the case. Nowadays the situation has improved but during the time of concubines? Yeah, things were rough.
"Take for example the concubines of a king planning and plotting against each other. Do you think they do…
''Case closed then.'' - Conveniently ignoring the minor-part then, some of these concubines never knew a life beyond the palace-politics. There's responsibility, but there's also an understanding needed on how environments form people as they grow into adulthood.
''I've never seen Alice in Borderland, so no comment.'' - You can still fix that. Anyway these shows are just used as examples of brutal survival-situations.
''the kingdoms were actually run by the Queens.'' -I mean that's a broad statement; did they have influence? Sure. Were they more powerful than the king? In nearly all cases no. If the king wanted them executed, they would be dead.
''Except having a female ruler is one of, if not the most central, aspect of a matriarchy but whatever.'' So a matriarchy would actually mean that women in general would hold powerful positions in society. Not just 1 female figurehead royal surrounded by men.
"Take for example the concubines of a king planning and plotting against each other. Do you think they do…
These women in a concubine situation were absolutely still responsible for their own actions. But if you were thrown into a survival-game like Alice in Borderland or Squid Game I assume you'd also lose a bit of your own humanity. And keep in mind, many concubines probably joined the palace at ages we'd consider being a minor nowadays.
As for queens, for the small amount we've had in earths history, they just join a pre-existing system. And that system is written and enforced by mainly men regardless of royalty figurehead. Thinking that just because there's a female ruler that there is suddenly some kind of a matriarchy is very naive. The soldiers, politicians, law-writers, bankers ect... Were almost all dudes.
The question of blame for mainly men or women for the horrific things that have happened in the past is useless as both men and women have done good things and bad things. But in regards to generally holding power and therefore influence, it obviously was men due to physical advantage over women.
Finally watched the whole thing. They go into the experience-backgrounds of the actors to show why they struggle with the script in their own ways and that's done quite well.
Its not as romance-focused as I thought it would be, but its very cute as the assistant is on his mission to smoothen over the rocky relations with advice from the guardians. And the guardian-spirit couple is chill
No problem, for me it was the lack of English sources that instigated the creation of the entries. Just so the knowledge of their existence is not erased from history as its a very niche genre.
Bibari & Rui (Louie) meet when Rui applies to a job and Bibari is his interviewer, this is shown in the special…
Now B&R to summarize is basically a parody of a typical old BL-plotline but with some absurdist elements added for comedy-sake. I think if you watch it with that context it can work but of course it is a product of its time. Because if we look back, some BL-content of the past was also kinda cringy and this show just uses that for comedy purposes.
Total amount of episodes for B&R is 46, good luck hunting them down before copyright gets to it. But I'm sure there's a few random uploads you can find.
If someone wants to know the general storyline that was gathered from the B&R show, check spoiler.
Bibari & Rui (Louie) meet when Rui applies to a job and Bibari is his interviewer, this is shown in the special episode 0.
The general storyline is that Bibari & Rui are at work and Bibari wants to tear open Rui's dress shirt cause he's into that I guess. But every time Bibari tries this, someone disturbs the two (usually the female side-character) Bibari then tries to cover the situation and Rui gets angry. That's the main comedy skit.
So there are larger story components of which the first is Bibari getting amnesia and thinking he's straight for a few episodes. This gets resolved when one of many exes of Bibari visits called Leon, he reminds Bibari that he is into male chests basically.
There's also another longer storyline where I think Rui believes he's terminally ill which gets quite dark but this gets resolved by a doctor guy which leads to the next story-arc/season where they changed the general set-up. Now there's random Japanese male celebrity cameos who basically form rivals for Bibari and tear off the dress shirt of Rui.
Then there's the final episode which plot basically is similar to the old set-up of someone disturbing them during the shirt-rip ritual and Rui getting pissed off. But in this one Bibari ignores the disturber and then makes love to Rui in front of the female side-character. Which is a pretty good ending to the series even if it's still kinda played for comedy.
Well, green shirt guy and yellow shirt guy are definitely into each other and they know of themselves that they like each other. But it will have to be revealed whether or not the couple actually lives to have that romance
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Google ''world leaders summit' sometime and look at group-pictures of countries leaders and tell me the gender-balance between men and women present. I hope that clears up some things.
There's two queen Elizabeths from England so specify which one next time if you want to pick a specific one.
''You're basically claiming that these women have no agency.''
That was indeed kind of a thing with concubines that they had extremely little agency. I mean, again, they were groomed into this role from their early teens and they quite literally were stuck in that palace for their entire lives.
-So you can't understand concubines carry responsibility and they were also underage teenagers groomed into this lifestyle simultaneously? They did awful things and killed others, but they were led into this lifestyle against their will to serve the needs of some powerful guy. So yea I will take their background into consideration when casting judgement on their actions.
''Queen Elizabeth and Margaret Thatcher were definitely not figure heads.'
-As for the rest, that's a case by case thing. Some perpetuate the male-dominant systems and some fight against it I guess. Somehow this went from historical suffering of concubines to now modern politics. Queen Elizabeth with her funding of Andrew and Margaret with her defunding of childcare definitely did some women-unfriendly things.
But the point is; a female leader doesn't equate a system that uplifts women in general (or a matriarchy). Because for that to happen, all layers of power need to have women in them. Which historically has not often been the case. Nowadays the situation has improved but during the time of concubines? Yeah, things were rough.
- Conveniently ignoring the minor-part then, some of these concubines never knew a life beyond the palace-politics. There's responsibility, but there's also an understanding needed on how environments form people as they grow into adulthood.
''I've never seen Alice in Borderland, so no comment.''
- You can still fix that. Anyway these shows are just used as examples of brutal survival-situations.
''the kingdoms were actually run by the Queens.''
-I mean that's a broad statement; did they have influence? Sure. Were they more powerful than the king? In nearly all cases no. If the king wanted them executed, they would be dead.
''Except having a female ruler is one of, if not the most central, aspect of a matriarchy but whatever.''
So a matriarchy would actually mean that women in general would hold powerful positions in society. Not just 1 female figurehead royal surrounded by men.
As for queens, for the small amount we've had in earths history, they just join a pre-existing system. And that system is written and enforced by mainly men regardless of royalty figurehead. Thinking that just because there's a female ruler that there is suddenly some kind of a matriarchy is very naive. The soldiers, politicians, law-writers, bankers ect... Were almost all dudes.
The question of blame for mainly men or women for the horrific things that have happened in the past is useless as both men and women have done good things and bad things. But in regards to generally holding power and therefore influence, it obviously was men due to physical advantage over women.
Whatever is going on between Takakura & Kosuke? Here for it
Its not as romance-focused as I thought it would be, but its very cute as the assistant is on his mission to smoothen over the rocky relations with advice from the guardians. And the guardian-spirit couple is chill
Total amount of episodes for B&R is 46, good luck hunting them down before copyright gets to it. But I'm sure there's a few random uploads you can find.
The general storyline is that Bibari & Rui are at work and Bibari wants to tear open Rui's dress shirt cause he's into that I guess. But every time Bibari tries this, someone disturbs the two (usually the female side-character) Bibari then tries to cover the situation and Rui gets angry. That's the main comedy skit.
So there are larger story components of which the first is Bibari getting amnesia and thinking he's straight for a few episodes. This gets resolved when one of many exes of Bibari visits called Leon, he reminds Bibari that he is into male chests basically.
There's also another longer storyline where I think Rui believes he's terminally ill which gets quite dark but this gets resolved by a doctor guy which leads to the next story-arc/season where they changed the general set-up. Now there's random Japanese male celebrity cameos who basically form rivals for Bibari and tear off the dress shirt of Rui.
Then there's the final episode which plot basically is similar to the old set-up of someone disturbing them during the shirt-rip ritual and Rui getting pissed off. But in this one Bibari ignores the disturber and then makes love to Rui in front of the female side-character. Which is a pretty good ending to the series even if it's still kinda played for comedy.