Okay, I need to say this 😭The dialogue just doesn’t make sense because of this whole “big, tough guy”…
I disagree! Although Yim has soft-looking facial features, he's not actually that small - he's roughly the same size as Tutor and has a fairly muscular build in this show.
Erng is vulgar, blunt, masculine, and aggressive and he likes being that way... but he also wants babygirl treatment from his lovers. I think this is partially part of his character and partially played for laughs. There is a lot of word play in Thai that isn't getting translated - my sense is that this show is meant to be a comedy but because so much of the humor is difficult to translate, it comes across as more of a drama for international audiences and the dialogue doesn't land the way it's supposed to.
I mean, I'm not arguing that this show is literary genius or anything, just that the dialogue is full of jokes, puns, and wordplay that doesn't come across in the translation- both because there's bad translation and also because a lot of the lines would require an insane amount of translator notes.
Okay I have to vent for a sec because the English subs for episode 1 really let me down. They completely butchered…
I don't even speak Thai and I could tell the subtitles were a mess on Gaga. "Cow Bar" instead of "Crowd Bar," "Is it the person I'm talking to right now" instead of "Is it the person YOU'RE talking to right now" in the temple, "Make it up to me" instead of "Let's make up." And, like I said - I don't speak Thai, but it seemed like they completely missed the politeness aspect of the pronoun shift when he slipped into gu/mueng pronouns when they first met.
Like... if you're going to use AI at least have someone with half a brain proofread them first?!
I really like what you said about Koh - "He's unlikeable and I think that's the point. I don't quite think that we, as the audience, are meant to really like him. Only Jira is." It's one of the things that made this show so interesting to me - Koh isn't really given a full redemption arc - he pays penance in a way by sleeping miserably in his car for a year and he moves out of that god awful soulless hotel apartment, but he doesn't have a come-to-Jesus moment about AI or capitalism and he never apologizes to Jira.
Koh's an asshole and I would never want to meet him in real life, but I believe that Jira is inspired by him and wants to be with him, and that's what matters to this story.
I think the most relevant shift in terms of the KohJira relationship is that Koh can keep a flame lily plantation alive at his childhood home. That's all we get as an audience - a subtle possibility that Koh might not destroy Jira.
Because BLs are definitionally romances, I can understand why a lot of BL viewers felt underwhelmed or frustrated by the ending. I, however, loved that P'Nuchy let these flawed humans stay flawed and gave us a happy-enough/happy-for-now ending.
Erng is vulgar, blunt, masculine, and aggressive and he likes being that way... but he also wants babygirl treatment from his lovers. I think this is partially part of his character and partially played for laughs. There is a lot of word play in Thai that isn't getting translated - my sense is that this show is meant to be a comedy but because so much of the humor is difficult to translate, it comes across as more of a drama for international audiences and the dialogue doesn't land the way it's supposed to.
I mean, I'm not arguing that this show is literary genius or anything, just that the dialogue is full of jokes, puns, and wordplay that doesn't come across in the translation- both because there's bad translation and also because a lot of the lines would require an insane amount of translator notes.
Like... if you're going to use AI at least have someone with half a brain proofread them first?!
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Koh's an asshole and I would never want to meet him in real life, but I believe that Jira is inspired by him and wants to be with him, and that's what matters to this story.
I think the most relevant shift in terms of the KohJira relationship is that Koh can keep a flame lily plantation alive at his childhood home. That's all we get as an audience - a subtle possibility that Koh might not destroy Jira.
Because BLs are definitionally romances, I can understand why a lot of BL viewers felt underwhelmed or frustrated by the ending. I, however, loved that P'Nuchy let these flawed humans stay flawed and gave us a happy-enough/happy-for-now ending.