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Replying to Gala Ramirez Aug 26, 2022
Same here. I hated how they made her character depressed. In the book she was different, more practical and scheming.…
She's just reflected her unforgiving acts after she thought HBY's dead in the bunker. and that's just several minutes.
It's more of HBY's that in love with her rather than her.
I really disappointed on how they ruined CSS's characters
Replying to SpicyLime Aug 26, 2022
I'm genuinely curious. What did her in for you?I felt they could've written her better too.
he's in his out of minds states.
In her mind, it's abandonment.
And sometimes I even think how irresponsible of him to leave her like that after she tried to save him.
He basically fed her to the wolves who targetted him.
But... on another point of view, how could he be so selfish enough to drag the entire Cheng's family to be beheaded?
And how could he be selfish enough to take the love of his life to be dead with him, and ignoring others?
For me, it's already in the gray area.
He had thought to be dead.
I pitied these two btw.
And I'm disappointed with no wedding scene after all this mess.
Replying to SpicyLime Aug 26, 2022
I'm genuinely curious. What did her in for you?I felt they could've written her better too.
I am looking forward the reconciliation arc in the novel to be implemented on the drama originally, it's really touching.
But since they changed the character of CSS in the dramaland to be a cold woman with what I think several times more stubborn than she was before, the character of HBY in the drama should changed to be a HBY with a real sincerity and not the one in the novel. the dramaland CSS even didn't want to have any relation HBY while in the novel they tried to be friend.
So... At least in the dramaland, they should at least make them to be a friend first and solving a problem together (if i'm not wrong, CSS cleared his name after the 5 years arc, but since there isn't any avalanche scene, at least they should changed to another case), so that CSS could finally see his sincerity by their ongrowing friendship after the 5 years arc.
dramaland HBY might showed his sincerity at least twice in front of her - once in the cliff, another one in the bunker, both in the life or death situation.
And they should even let the other characters aside of YS to tell her HBY's sincerity - how HBY almost losing his life from time to time, just to protect those around her, so that she could find her own happiness.
In the dramaland, even after YS told her what he did, she's just get this cold face, while in the novel, CSS seemed to be touched by HBY's sincerity and crying in silence while looking for him from afar. (This is another scene I thought that the dramaland LLTG should put)
I even think that CSS's parents know about what he did behind her back (the dialogue between A Fei and Wendy that disclosed that HBY nearly lost his life because trying to help General Wan-who is Qiqi's father, although General Wan is dead in the end and how again HBY nearly risked his life, just because he wanted to help Cheng Song, because he's captured by the enemy and he's the one who offered to replace Cheng Shi to accompany the crown prince because the task is risky) which is why they supported him to be back with their daughter and kicked some sense into him.
I actually looking forward for their reconciliation arc on how HBY's melting her frosted heart and makes her smile again, with several comedic scenes too.
I guessed, this is what happened when the originally 66 episodes had to be cramped into 56 episodes (if the rumour to be true). They had to cut so many crucial scenes. it's better if they cut out some unnecessary scenes in earlier episodes rather than the after 5 years arc
Replying to SpicyLime Aug 26, 2022
I'm genuinely curious. What did her in for you?I felt they could've written her better too.
Yeah, Actually kind of disappointed that they made her a stupid woman after 5 years.
CSS is a person full of schemes and tricks, just like HBY.
Instead after 5 years, they made her stupid by following the second madwoman, even though she knows that Lou Li always treated her terribly in the past.
And actually she could learnt one thing from HBY.
Although the circumtances are so much different,
HBY should let go of the hatred and live peacefully before he lost everything,
Just exactly like what Consort Yue and even CSS's warned him.
Instead, he took the shortcut although It's understandable that he's in a desperate state after the last evidence and witness that could bring Ling Yi to his downfall was destroyed.
In the end, he lost the most important person in his life, who is CSS.
And he regretted that everyday for 5 years.
Even the Empress had warned her to let go of her grudge towards HBY and be back with him, since he's in her heart even after 5 years. (The empress had told her twice, even her last wish is that she should be back together with HBY as couple)
What is the use of holding onto a grudge over the one you loved the most while you're suffering?
The Empress also said she should cherished what is in front of her before she regretted when she lost it (People tend to finally regretted after they totally lost someone or something, just like HBY and her mother).
Furthermore, after I watched it several times, HBY might often promises her of never abandoning her (he broke it up in her face), but HBY just abandoned her for one time, and that is to protect her. After that HBY didn't really abandon her, even in his exile. He protected her family members even to the extent to YS. His sincerity also shown on the cliff arc and the bunker arc, where he never really abandoned her alone all the while She always told him to abandon her, in both arcs. It needed HBY to be killed that she could finally forgive him.
I just hope they would expained more the forgiveness arc.
Out of all people around her, it's only YS who told her the truth about how HBY helped his family behind her back just for her.
Again like you said, You hoped HBY might eventually moved on to another woman.
unfortunately, HBY is a type to be only love one person in his life, and that is CSS.
LJT's arc is actually a wake up call to CSS actually, because as shameful as she is, she's right when she said on one thing. When you loved someone, you would accept him for who he is, the good and the bad side of him. in this case, i think HBY is just doing his responsibility as the heir of Huo family, to bring justice to his family members that were slaughtered by Ling Yi. He's not a really bad people or a philanderer that didn't deserve her forgiveness. LJT even told her to the extent of how depressed HBY was when he's in the northwest, and how much HBY still loves her. Everyone is in love with HBY, but his eyes only served for her and she should be grateful for that. He treated her special and different from how he treated any other ladies, including LJT who loved him since their childhood.
And WYJ arc, as I watched it again, it's another wake up call to her actually.
She should just cherished the moment, because her soulmate is still there with her, alive or dead willing to be with her, unlike WYJ's Louben who left her alone in this world in bitterness.
Some people here even said that HBY isn't that hard to earn her forgiveness.
While they are right that HBY didn't try to earn her forgiveness, as I rewatched again, he didn't even try to earn any of her forgiveness to be back with him because his sense of unworthiness and hoped she could be happy, with him or without him the picture. And also, CSS didn't even gave him the chance to apologize or gave him a chance to show his sincerity, even after they talked heart to heart on the empress' funeral. And the drama's CSS is different from the novel's CSS.
CSS in the drama is the type like, the more you force me, the more i hated you.
so HBY's in the drama response should be shown to be sincere and protected her in silence.
Replying to Bell19 Aug 26, 2022
Photo Photo
That's not a marriage poster, that's an actual scene, it's their engagement party in Cheng's residence where Lady…
No...
If you look closely, the outfit is different from the engagement one.
Especially from LBY’s outfit
It’s really different.
Replying to Ms2deep4u Aug 25, 2022
Never knew I needed LBY/ WL with facial hair and hair down. Yup, now that I've seen it I can't unsee it. That…
YY got the training from General Ling lol 😂🤣
Replying to veevy_maung Aug 25, 2022
thoughts on LLTG:All everybody seems to be talking about is how Zisheng knew she had abandonment issues but I…
There’re times I pitied him too.
He suffered PTSD I think.
As I said before. No one is right. But none is wrong.
Both Niao Niao and HBY have their own psychological issues.
Sometimes when I thought of that, I felt sad for both.
HBY’s issues are so much more heavier than NiaoNiao’s issues.
He had to fake his identity. And that for 10+ years.
Talking about abandonment.
He might abandoned her.
But he did that to protect her and her families.
Sometimes I could think he’s stupid for that.
He’s abandoning her to feed the wolves who targeted him.
But another 9 lives might be in danger because of protecting him.
And since their biting’s arc, even before I watched the 53rd episodes, I have thought that these two have married each other unofficially so he’s basically protecting her from what to come.
Another thing is, just like CSS could read him like a book, HBY too, could read her like a book. They are cut from the same cloth. CSS is as reckless and ruthless as him.
So CSS should be out of picture.
It’s not that he didn’t trust her.
He’s protecting her.
And I noticed, both have some sense of unworthy issues.
One is a victim of PTSD and survivor’s guilt issues, another one is a victim of abandonment issues.
Even HBY’s are so much more depressing. He felt unworthy of life, because the real LBY’s dead because of him, and thousands lives are dead, just him and his aunt. When he opened his eyes, all are corpses and bloodbath. Everyone aside him and his aunt. Are dead. Not to mention the gruesome image, heads without bodies are on the fort. Ali’s and his father’s are amongst that head.
The way he killed Ling Yi is not even as sadistic as Ling Yi killed the entire town.
After the revenge, he feels desperate and empty inside. Which is lead to suicidal acts.
After he survived, he felt unworthy of CSS because he knows the abandonment issues but still decide to abandon her.
Css also felt unworthy of anything or anyone.
Her parents left her for country. Her mother precisely, choose to leave her on the hands of the second aunt and grandma, all the while knows that they are evil and instead bring her twin brother away.
After the mom went back home, she always compares CSS with CY. Yang yang this yang yang that. Unlike Niao Niao. It made her felt that she’s unworthy. she suffered from mother complex, I think, because she didn’t really have any issues with the dad. or any of her siblings or even YY.
When she could finally felt what is love from her beloved, HBY, in her mind, when she had totally given him everything he had demanded before, he in return never give her what he had demanded of her before.
In CSS’s mind, she’s more unworthy than HBY’s revenge and agendas.
Which is why, she held these two responsible the most in the 5 years arc grudge.
All over. These two lack of understanding each other further.
Should say that this drama is depressing enough. Full of psychological issues. Even YS, HZJ,and WYJ. I wondered how could these two, especially Leo could acted as HBY perfectly, with a complex personalities, especially on the 48th episode, oh my god, his psychopath face. Even though he admitted that part is the most difficult scene he had to do.
Even the producer, if I’m not wrong, said that HBY’s character is really difficult to portray, because of his characters complexity. (Well, for me, sometimes he had to look so much colder than ice, sometimes a psychopath, sometimes sinister face, but he had to be patient to the stubborn Niao Niao, he had to look like... he’s cruel but he is also toally in love with NiaoNiao)
If anyone in a psychology major wants to be graduate by essay, thesis or paper, just use this drama as your topics for analysis, lol.
Replying to CloudA Aug 25, 2022
The neighbour drama 'Love between the fairy and devil' will air on Netflix on 9.14. When will our LLTG air on…
Actually wondering if there will be a real final version or they just left it like that.
Since it had been ended.
56 episodes are clearly not enough especially the after 5 years arc.
2 more episodes actually are enough for explaining things.
So many loopholes.
Replying to San Andrea Aug 25, 2022
WYJ is a pitiful character for me. She might be evil in the end, but she's a pitiful lady, unlike LJT or Lou Li…
I think so, for the sake of Lou Yao and Shaoshang, HBY might help him.
Replying to The Gods Must Be Crazy Aug 25, 2022
Lou Ben and Wang Ji is a picture of a husband and wife who love each other. And I feel sad for both have to end…
WYJ is a pitiful character for me. She might be evil in the end, but she's a pitiful lady, unlike LJT or Lou Li (I dont sympathized them, LJT is a shameless lady that had been rejected by HBY since the start and a murderer and Lou Li is just unreasonable spoiled brat with no brain and held Shaoshang the culprit of her family's destruction, all a while it's her own father who did that). Both WYJ and Lou Ben were originally nice. They're burdened by their family situations that are controlled by Lou Li's parents as the elder family.
Lou Ben did try anything so that the second family would be freed by the elder family, but it's in vain due to Lou Li's parents, so Lou Ben had to do what he had to do, which is why by the end, WYJ killed Lou Li. It's the elder family who forced Lou Ben to do the treason. WYJ couldn't controlled her husband, too, because exactly like HBY, Lou Ben never planned to tell her his planned and treason until the end
HBY and CSS had gone to similar path as both Lou Ben and WYJ.
What HBY did is just the same as Lou Ben: Suicide.
The difference is on motive, while Lou Ben wanted to be recognized, HBY's suicidal action is because his desperation. Even after revenge, I think he's still desperate and feel the emptiness that eat him up alive.
If HBY is not alive, Shaoshang will be just like WYJ, She will die of heartbreak.
She's in a coma state for 2 days after HBY jumped off the cliff.
The reason she's still alive is maybe because HBY's also alive.
Shaoshang has a strong intuition and logical thinking, but still, she's failed to stop HBY.
the difference is, Shaoshang didn't just held others guilty of her bitterness except for 2 people who were responsible for her bitterness: her mother and HBY. While WYJ held everyone responsible except her husband.
which is why I think some part of WYJ understands Shaoshang's feeling and some part of her feel envious because while her husband died of suicide, Shaoshang's soulmate is still pretty much alive and healthy even though he had committed suicide and even accompanied her in the bunker to fight together.
Replying to San Andrea Aug 24, 2022
This maybe the reason why they dont near each other on the spot. They are the hottest couple right now. So to…
Lusi is the second of him I ever watched. I wont comment his chemistry with the first FL i watched of him with. Would get backlash
Replying to San Andrea Aug 24, 2022
This maybe the reason why they dont near each other on the spot. They are the hottest couple right now. So to…
Ohmyy. Chen zhe yuan 😍😍😍
The handsome siblings little fish.
Another incredible actor although for me, he’s still far below Leo’s talent, but still, he’s a good actor.
(Leo’s a kid star so it’s not unusual if he’s a total pro in acting)
Replying to San Andrea Aug 24, 2022
This maybe the reason why they dont near each other on the spot. They are the hottest couple right now. So to…
They will likely go to seperate ways at least for a year or several years before being paired together again.
Really, leo is lusi’s best chemistry co star out of 4 dramas I ever watched of her.
Leo’s next project’s co star is Zhou Yutong, although honestly I didn’t really like her, but would try for Leo’s incredible acting.
As for Lusi, I dont know who’s her next pairing, but i really hope both Lusi and Leo will teamed up Again as couple in another projects
Replying to San Andrea Aug 24, 2022
This maybe the reason why they dont near each other on the spot. They are the hottest couple right now. So to…
Agree with you. I am looking for their other works again in the future!
They’re the best couple with best chemistry for me until now.
Even LYN and Lusi’s chemistry isnt as hot as Leo with Lusi’s.
But rationally, would they want to work together again, if the situation will be like this?
It’s kind of annoying.
They have to move on.
Hahaha.
Replying to S.Y.M. Aug 24, 2022
As much as we love LBY/HWS and CSS remember that they are fictional characters from a novel. WL & ZLS are actor…
This maybe the reason why they dont near each other on the spot.
They are the hottest couple right now.
So to avoid gossips and something like this, they had to be apart for sometime.
If it continued like this, I wondered if both Leo and Lusi would want to be in a same drama as leads again.
Replying to LOVE Aug 24, 2022
It coz Shaoshang immediately rushed over and hugged him tightly. Unlike before, her seemed to always avoid HBY.I…
That’s what I think too. We’re on the same page, although the first step of her forgiving HBY is when he considered her as his wife since the biting arms arc. Then the elders such as queen and CSS’s parents contributed their reconciliation. And the last step is on the bunker, when HBY is scolded by WYJ for critized LBen’s behaviour while all along he also treated CSS just the same.
HBY finally admitted his regrets of letting CSS go. A couple should have been on the same page because they are one heart and soul.
Even if revenge became more and more difficult, he should have married CSS first and walking towards the right road with her.
I think this is what CSS wanted to hear for a long time from him. His understanding of marriage.
And I think this is the moment she finally lets go of the past and forgives him wholeheartedly.
Replying to merkun Aug 24, 2022
I feel you!😭😭😭
They are basically torturing themselves.
CSS even lost her schemes and tricks since she became a zombie
Replying to Val W Aug 24, 2022
When he put her foot in the stirrup. She forgave him at that moment. ♥
She’s missing him, she wanted to touch him, but she cant due to her principle.
At this point I dont think she had forgiven him.
Replying to Val W Aug 24, 2022
Well written. I have that T=shirt too. :) Forgiveness is a funny thing. It takes a level of maturity too really…
After all, I would think that their 5 years seperation is actually a blessing.
All of the people around them are also supportive of their relationship, especially the Queen and CSS’s parents.
All of them are kicking some sense to HBY. Maybe all of them understands that they are in denial and just lying to each other.
The Queen even predicted that both of them will finally get their way back together.
The last episodes are disappointment for me. It would be better if they just cut off the Qu Lingjun’s arc. At least, they have 2 episodes more in explaining the 5 years arc.
Replying to Toooomeeee Aug 24, 2022
Omg I wanted to ask your Ques 1 each time I watched that scene! Thanks!! 😆
In the bunker, after being scold by WYJ of how dare he even critized her husband, Lou Ben, of how hard and difficult CSS life without him in the capital (this is why I think WYJ still sympathized CSS even though she hates her, because she’s in CSS’s shoes, too), HBY just admitted he regretted his actions and should have married her first and then revenge. He also admitted that couple should have been on the same page (this is why, I think by this point CSS decides to forgive him, because maybe it’s what she always yearns to hear from him). But he never said that he would treat her well in the future.
Someone above said maybe it’s at the empress funeral did he ever said this to her.
Maybe it’s been cut.
So many unsyncronized scenes actually especially during the last episodes.
Remember the conversation between YS and CSS? That he’s lose since the start and even though he’s lose, HBY is not winning either. And then he said he didn’t want to regret his decision to let her go back to HBY. And after that, it’s Suddenly changed to YS and HBY’s scene, when HBY asked YS that he would let go of CSS for good to HBY which is answered by YS he would be crazy if keep on fighting HBY after what HBY’s near to death experience due to help the Yuan clan just for CSS’s sake.
I think the one who edited each episode is different, because they need to be fast and the sequence are too choppy.