I'm sorry Jirichin is the worst- telling Lukchup not to clarify things with Ram is just not healthy for their relationship, even if it's only for a little bit. I'm really glad that Lukchup didn't really listen to him and told Ram as soon as he asked- literally no one wants a misunderstanding due to miscommunication, it's boring writing IMO.
I don't know what comments or reviews I saw that made me almost not watch this but I'm on the second episode only and damn... that's a really, really pretty cast. I'm not the type to watch or enjoy things for visuals alone but the ML's are both incredibly attractive, wow. I guess we will see how the rest plays out, but between that and the fact that the acting isn't bad, I'm feeling generally positive towards it right now.
This is the first time I am choosing to listen to the internet fully and so I have stopped at the second to last episode. In my brain, he got the salt and they live happily ever after 😊🙈🙉
Except an age gap between someone who's 30 and 50 and someone who's a whole adult with a 17 year old in highschool…
I'm very familiar with the concept of grooming actually, thank you, but I actually watched the show so it is clear to me that that was not a factor in their relationship (you know, the relationship that started when she was 29 years old- a fully grown adult.) But whatever, if you aren't willing to actually have a conversation then that's your choice- I really don't care to waste any more time on it to be honest. This show is well loved- one of the most popular and highest reviewed shows on this entire site- so I guess you are in the minority on this.
If you found the show so disgusting I don't even understand why you are on this page to be honest.
Hi, I don't know about other countries but in Italy, a doctor has a degree named "Medicine and Surgery" (to 5…
Oh sorry I should be clearer- I don't disagree that he is ABLE to do all of those jobs, he would have likely had to get his MD before specializing in Forensic Pathology to become a ME, but its the idea that he is fulfilling all of those roles at the same time that's ridiculous. Usually there is a position for a Medical Examiner, and that is their only role, since it takes up most of their time. If it is in a smaller town then they might do general practice part time as well, with less suspicious deaths occurring, etc. But generally somewhat who is a GP and ME would not also be an ER Doctor, nor would they be on call as a surgeon for an emergency surgery, since they are likely already on call as an ME. I don't know how big the hospital is, it seems big enough to have a couple of doctors on rotation for the ER though. It just feels like he might be wearing a few too many hats for plot convenience is all.
I don't let it effect my enjoyment of the show, however I can't help but notice it when it happens haha.
Is anyone else concerned that the Medical Examiner is also a General Practitioner, ER doctor, and the emergency surgeon? I mean I know it's supposed to be a small town, but are there really no other doctors? Is he going to be in Labour & Delivery next? How is he supposed to do all of that while also solving a murder and cooking for/getting it on with Tan? Where does he find the time??
Aside from that, I'm really enjoying this series! ?
Except an age gap between someone who's 30 and 50 and someone who's a whole adult with a 17 year old in highschool…
I never said that being in a relationship with a 17-year-old is okay- please don't put words in my mouth. I was attempting to show the ridiculousness of people thinking that the fact that he looked a bit older was problematic when you have stupid shows like Twilight that people are completely fine with because the 100-year-old male lead LOOKS like a teenager. If it was Lee Jong Suk instead of Gong Yoo, do you think people would have made such a big deal about it? But in the end, the fact of the matter is that there was no sexual let alone romantic relationship between them until she was a legally consenting adult.
They didn't form any sort of actual romantic relationship until she was 18 (20 in Korean age)- legally an adult- and even then it was nothing more than a kiss. In fact, he makes a point to not have any serious type of relations with her. Overall, in the first part of the show, they shared only 3 kisses, the first two of which were relatively chaste and completely initiated by Eun Tak and not the Goblin; and the last of which was the Goblin saying goodbye to the person he had fallen in love with and was about to emotionally annihilate.
THEN THERE WAS A TIME SKIP. He doesn't come back until she is 29-years-old. That is when their actual relationship began.
Now, whether it is RESPONSIBLE for a person who is much older to be in a relationship with someone who is just 18 is a different matter, and I believe that the show does well in showing that he actually seems pretty uncomfortable with the situation, and would probably prefer her to be older. But at no point is he pressuring her into or even insinuating a sexual relationship, and at no point is he using his age or authority to prey on her.
My issue with people berating the show because of this age gap is that they act like he is some predator waiting around to pick up high school girls after they get out of school. He was put in an uncomfortable situation and felt a responsibility towards Eun Tak as his initial interference had caused her life to be terrible and at risk. He tried to help her, while constantly fighting off/ignoring her advances, but eventually fell in love with the person that she was, and the person he knew she would become when she was older (because he can literally see people's futures and knows them for their souls.) The only time he tried to take advantage of the situation or her innocence was when he wanted her to pull the sword from his chest. He was not a predator, and despite Eun Tak being pretty naive he didn't try to coerce her into anything, he just stayed at her side and tried to protect her and be there for her. It seems pretty obvious actually that he would have preferred to have met her later in her life, but unfortunately, that didn't happen initially.
What it comes down to though is that you removed the context from my original statement. I asked that question in the context of a person being 900-years old, so please don't twist my words and start dropping names like 'pedo-apologist' because this situation is not even near that.
The age gap of the characters is no different then when you have a vampire show- people are just upset because he looks older, but no matter how you look at it, he will be way older than her. If she was underage it would be a problem but neither the character nor the actress is so I don't see a problem in it. He was not a figure in her life as she was growing up, he was not a person of power in her life (I mean he has powers but not like a teacher or boss) and SHE was the one who pursued HIM, he was originally very reluctant, she wore him down by making him love the person who she was. He didn't romantically prey on her innocence, didn't force her, he helped her and helped her again and yes he wanted to use her for something but it was not the thing that people are upset about.
Would people be as scandalized if she were 30 and his character looked 50 but was still actually 900? No matter what, you have a character with years upon years of knowledge and worldliness over her; even if she were 40 she would still be incredibly young to him comparatively.
But in the end, if the age gap bothers you, just don't watch it.
I watched this as it was coming out and remember that I would watch every episode each week about 4 times, and go back and watch the other episodes too. There was something magical about this, the cast, the SOUNDTRACK, the cinematography, the story and how it's told- to me it is a near perfect drama.
I watched the first half and then stopped to let the rest of the episodes come out. I'm glad I did. I have a personal rule against watching any show that follows the "Bury your Gays" trope, unless it has a damn good reason, and even then it's iffy (ie. UWMA was an exception because of the focus on reincarnation.) I thought that Thai BLs were a bit of a haven from this stupid trope, but this one disappointed me.
No I didn't finish it. No I didn't give it a chance. If they are doing it for a second season they should have made that abundantly clear. If there is a second season where he comes back somehow I will consider finishing this, but until then this one is dropped for me.
1. Can someone recommend me dramas like this where conflicts n misunderstandings are in the first episodes n from…
The drama with the least amount of conflict in it in my opinion is' Love O2O'. While there is plot driving conflict, it never interferes with the main couple, and even when people try to plot against their relationship, the couple communicates with each other only and trusts each other so outside influences never really pose a problem for them.
Just two attractive, incredibly intelligent, kind, talented, and practically perfect people getting together and showing everyone how awesome they are haha.
NGL I'm skipping pretty much all of the other pairings though...
If you found the show so disgusting I don't even understand why you are on this page to be honest.
I don't let it effect my enjoyment of the show, however I can't help but notice it when it happens haha.
Aside from that, I'm really enjoying this series! ?
They didn't form any sort of actual romantic relationship until she was 18 (20 in Korean age)- legally an adult- and even then it was nothing more than a kiss. In fact, he makes a point to not have any serious type of relations with her. Overall, in the first part of the show, they shared only 3 kisses, the first two of which were relatively chaste and completely initiated by Eun Tak and not the Goblin; and the last of which was the Goblin saying goodbye to the person he had fallen in love with and was about to emotionally annihilate.
THEN THERE WAS A TIME SKIP. He doesn't come back until she is 29-years-old. That is when their actual relationship began.
Now, whether it is RESPONSIBLE for a person who is much older to be in a relationship with someone who is just 18 is a different matter, and I believe that the show does well in showing that he actually seems pretty uncomfortable with the situation, and would probably prefer her to be older. But at no point is he pressuring her into or even insinuating a sexual relationship, and at no point is he using his age or authority to prey on her.
My issue with people berating the show because of this age gap is that they act like he is some predator waiting around to pick up high school girls after they get out of school. He was put in an uncomfortable situation and felt a responsibility towards Eun Tak as his initial interference had caused her life to be terrible and at risk. He tried to help her, while constantly fighting off/ignoring her advances, but eventually fell in love with the person that she was, and the person he knew she would become when she was older (because he can literally see people's futures and knows them for their souls.) The only time he tried to take advantage of the situation or her innocence was when he wanted her to pull the sword from his chest. He was not a predator, and despite Eun Tak being pretty naive he didn't try to coerce her into anything, he just stayed at her side and tried to protect her and be there for her. It seems pretty obvious actually that he would have preferred to have met her later in her life, but unfortunately, that didn't happen initially.
What it comes down to though is that you removed the context from my original statement. I asked that question in the context of a person being 900-years old, so please don't twist my words and start dropping names like 'pedo-apologist' because this situation is not even near that.
Would people be as scandalized if she were 30 and his character looked 50 but was still actually 900? No matter what, you have a character with years upon years of knowledge and worldliness over her; even if she were 40 she would still be incredibly young to him comparatively.
But in the end, if the age gap bothers you, just don't watch it.
No I didn't finish it. No I didn't give it a chance. If they are doing it for a second season they should have made that abundantly clear. If there is a second season where he comes back somehow I will consider finishing this, but until then this one is dropped for me.
Just two attractive, incredibly intelligent, kind, talented, and practically perfect people getting together and showing everyone how awesome they are haha.
... everything about this drama is beautiful, except for the crying. Those two beautiful boys had some uuuugly crying scenes. :')
(It adds to the feeling/realism I know, but damn...)