I'm not getting where people are referring to this as an "Idol" drama. Gu Man's not writing "Idol" dramas. This…
Harlequin romance is close yeah. In addiction, a large number of romance dramas are adapted from webnovels, webnovels that's targeted towards young and female audience (15 to 25 i'd say but you could expand it to 12 to 30 too), which is basically equivalent to young adult fiction.
You know how YA have fantasy, scifi, drama etc? Idol drama is used like that, it's why xianxia fall under it, and why friendship based youth dramas might be called it too, palace dramas too. cnetizens also call them by genres you'd categorise them as well, this one is a palace politics, that one is fantasy romance etc.
Idols in Chinese was initially "someone you idolise" could be a scientist, could be your parents, but in ent industry terms, it's young and good looking people. There were competitions for singing (along the style of american idol and x factor etc), but most didn't go into acting, so they weren't relevant to the cdrama industry. When they did produce 101 to produce idols in style of jpop and kpop idols, those end up going into acting, but they are called "idol' romanised or "contestants" if for some reason they needed to differentiated.
I'm not getting where people are referring to this as an "Idol" drama. Gu Man's not writing "Idol" dramas. This…
It's literally used like a genre, like romance dramas, so it's a neutral term. Do note that many actors that drama fans might consider to be ok or good acting might not be "good enough" for picky/harsh cnetizens. All the popular actors have one or multiple "idol" dramas, the fact they are popular meant that they proved they are better than those who can't act.
Actors that debut from various singing and dancing competitions/bands are fairly recent development, they have different terminology in chinese so it's not really mixed up like this. Some of them *can* act and do want to act by the way so they wouldn't be different from 3)
I'm not getting where people are referring to this as an "Idol" drama. Gu Man's not writing "Idol" dramas. This…
What you reference as "pink drama" is called metropolitan/urban drama in chinese, it's really the focus that made YAMG "idol drama", part of its target are definitely college and high school kids, otherwise it wouldn't air during summer vacation. That doesn't mean women around 30s or men wouldn't enjoy them. My terminology explanation is really just how cnetizens refer to dramas. cnetizens are picky about metropolitan dramas being unrealistic too and their actors are no better than YY and Reba.
Youth drama is entirely different, that's usually school dramas, or kids in college.
I'm not getting where people are referring to this as an "Idol" drama. Gu Man's not writing "Idol" dramas. This…
Hu Ge, the ML for nirvana in fire probably counts. He did lot of different kind of dramas before Nirvana in Fire. His debut was a xianxia, but one of the rare adventure xianxia and considered idol drama. He did wuxia and non romance focused modern dramas, serious republican dramas, but most people still consider him "idol" actor, he's young, popular and good looking, his more well known dramas are the lighter ones, so the image stuck, till Nirvana in Fire. Also I think him aging and he transitioned to more serious stuff helped too.
Sometimes actors will be referenced as "idols with skills" as in they are widely seen as having great acting skills + good looking, they generally have prestige acting awards (usually you need multiple) to show for it.
I'm not getting where people are referring to this as an "Idol" drama. Gu Man's not writing "Idol" dramas. This…
It's not really the gaming, all Gu Man's dramas are consider idol dramas lol. It's not really a bad thing, she's consider queen of modern idol drama adaptations because they were all hits.
....can we not bring ccp into this, ccp doesn't label the dramas, cnetizens and media does.
heads up they aren't romance dramas, crime crackdown is doing super well. ideal city and the bond could both be hits. these three are all daily dramas, so they don't really lose steam. candle in the tomb: worm valley at the end of the month will probably do well too
I'm not getting where people are referring to this as an "Idol" drama. Gu Man's not writing "Idol" dramas. This…
GGS and Legend of Fei are both considered idol dramas by cnetizens, they are usually targeted at young and female audience, romance dramas are usually consider as idol dramas. Rebel Princess is an idol drama (due to content, the politics feels like child's play)
Modern dramas that's not idol dramas's primary focus are usually on something else (family, kids or everything together), e.g. Nothing but Thirty or a Love for Dilemma. Historical, well most dramas international audience watch are also idol dramas lol, xianxia are idol dramas too, even Nirvana in Fire is kind of inbetween of idol and "serious" political drama.
Idols in this context are "young and popular actors", idol dramas tend to be lighter and less realistic. To breakfree of "idol" label, they usually have to do lot of other genres. Yang Yang's special force drama is an example, but if it's not done well, it's considered not serious/"idol-y". There's some realism in YAMG, and lot of people applaud it for that, but it's still not super down to earth? It's a neutral term by the way, although some people will use it negatively, but those people aren't worth your time usually.
not even close. There has been some truly monstrous CDramas in 2021
You are looking at the yearly chart of mhmmm, basically it's the first thing you watch after you subscribe (so they assume you subscribed for that drama/show). There's actual numbers under them but I think they are relative figures so not relevant here. The donghua version of DLDL is basically always #1, so everyone just ignores it.
I'm not sure where @WK1's numbers are from, but they are total viewcounts this year so far. But they probably aren't updated since youku have recently completely blocked people from seeing its viewcounts last month.
There are people that compile charts for 14 days after non-vip ends for their dramas, but comparing across platforms can be headache inducing, especially when they air on multiple platforms. Tencent's 100mil+/ep dramas are DLDL, Sword of Brocade then Legend of Fei (in order). iQiyi only has MHH but it's higher than DLDL (by my count, iQiyi uses its own system of viewcounts and the figures that's shown here looks like it's lower than the counts I've seen). You Are My Hero and Rattan both aired on all three platfoms and I can't remember their figures off top of my head lol, Rattan broke 100mil and YAMH is just under though.
I wonder if it has cracked 3 points in Datawin as the only drama to do that this year thus far was DC.
it hasn't but since datawin doesn't take into account viewcounts, i take it with more grain of salt. Its vlinkage is second highest this year though. 93.62 vs 93.64 iirc, the latter is my heroic husband
By the end of the week, unlikely, you can use last week's thurs to sunday number to estimate this week. Next week…
today it's still an update day, its regular curve is steadily climb till wednesday then it drops, this week should be climb till tuesday and drop, hopefully the drop isn't as drastic
Vlinkage is measuring how well drama or actor/actress doing, what is a Darwin measure?
vlinkage takes into account viewcounts, buzz around the net, I think weibo probably play into it (not sure if wechat official acc/douyin does though). Detawen never actually say what influences their rating, but it definitely does not include viewcounts, looks like fandom hype actually, considering Imperial Coroner got a pretty high number iirc (IC is a low budget drama that outperformed its expectations and had good buzz amongst certain circle of cnetizens but it shouldn't have a high number)
Not just the Olympics. In the last two weeks we also had the police detaining Kris Wu on suspicion of rape and…
Hopefully it makes up for the completely dead first half of the year for tv dramas, the tv ratings were all around abysmal lol. It finally looks like a summer hits are coming! I've been waiting for this for months!
Not just the Olympics. In the last two weeks we also had the police detaining Kris Wu on suspicion of rape and…
Sun Honglei's new thriller (?) is doing pretty well too. Daylight ent's new drama have four promising young actors and I'm sure daylight will go pretty hard on the promotion, both of them are tencent dramas, and they will have daily updates so yeah.
Not just the Olympics. In the last two weeks we also had the police detaining Kris Wu on suspicion of rape and…
I'd note that just before Olympics started, there were floods, then right when YAMG started, the slow moving typhoon that caused the floods hit, then there was a COVID flare up that was caught too late that's still on-going. Olympics and Kris Wu definitely got most of the attentions though. There's a whole bunch of strong tv dramas starting this week too.
oh good!. We should get minimum of 3B views, by the time the series is over. Now, just a question of whether can…
I'd expect it to slow down unless the kiss scenes grabbed new audience. The day after first fast track is usually the high point of a series' daily viewcount. Let's see how it goes today and tomorrow. YAMG drops bit too fast on non update days too.
This is kinda strange, but I suddenly just thought of a poem verse for this drama: The Jade Rabbit Hops With His…
fun fact: her real QQ account's name is 一闪一闪, in her profile it says 一闪一闪亮晶晶 which is twinkle twinkle little star's chinese lyrics, although literal translation would be twinkle twinkle shiny-ny lol. So their QQ account kind of match too, jade rabbit and a star!
You know how YA have fantasy, scifi, drama etc? Idol drama is used like that, it's why xianxia fall under it, and why friendship based youth dramas might be called it too, palace dramas too. cnetizens also call them by genres you'd categorise them as well, this one is a palace politics, that one is fantasy romance etc.
Idols in Chinese was initially "someone you idolise" could be a scientist, could be your parents, but in ent industry terms, it's young and good looking people. There were competitions for singing (along the style of american idol and x factor etc), but most didn't go into acting, so they weren't relevant to the cdrama industry. When they did produce 101 to produce idols in style of jpop and kpop idols, those end up going into acting, but they are called "idol' romanised or "contestants" if for some reason they needed to differentiated.
Actors that debut from various singing and dancing competitions/bands are fairly recent development, they have different terminology in chinese so it's not really mixed up like this. Some of them *can* act and do want to act by the way so they wouldn't be different from 3)
Youth drama is entirely different, that's usually school dramas, or kids in college.
Sometimes actors will be referenced as "idols with skills" as in they are widely seen as having great acting skills + good looking, they generally have prestige acting awards (usually you need multiple) to show for it.
....can we not bring ccp into this, ccp doesn't label the dramas, cnetizens and media does.
Modern dramas that's not idol dramas's primary focus are usually on something else (family, kids or everything together), e.g. Nothing but Thirty or a Love for Dilemma. Historical, well most dramas international audience watch are also idol dramas lol, xianxia are idol dramas too, even Nirvana in Fire is kind of inbetween of idol and "serious" political drama.
Idols in this context are "young and popular actors", idol dramas tend to be lighter and less realistic. To breakfree of "idol" label, they usually have to do lot of other genres. Yang Yang's special force drama is an example, but if it's not done well, it's considered not serious/"idol-y". There's some realism in YAMG, and lot of people applaud it for that, but it's still not super down to earth? It's a neutral term by the way, although some people will use it negatively, but those people aren't worth your time usually.
I'm not sure where @WK1's numbers are from, but they are total viewcounts this year so far. But they probably aren't updated since youku have recently completely blocked people from seeing its viewcounts last month.
There are people that compile charts for 14 days after non-vip ends for their dramas, but comparing across platforms can be headache inducing, especially when they air on multiple platforms. Tencent's 100mil+/ep dramas are DLDL, Sword of Brocade then Legend of Fei (in order). iQiyi only has MHH but it's higher than DLDL (by my count, iQiyi uses its own system of viewcounts and the figures that's shown here looks like it's lower than the counts I've seen). You Are My Hero and Rattan both aired on all three platfoms and I can't remember their figures off top of my head lol, Rattan broke 100mil and YAMH is just under though.