Somebody literally wrote 'yeah, and hmm should I say this (*whispers*) old man yaoi for the win!' if this isn't…
Yes, we know there is a romantic subplot. It's not like any of you have been letting us forget because that is all you talk about.
And that means the person is fascinated with the interplay between the villain and the ML. It doesn't mean they are actually shipping them.
You know how so many people have been saying the writing for the FL is not good? Remember how they got brushed off? Well this is why the writing is important. This writer is obviously very capable of writing complex, fascinating characters. Yes, it is crucial that Huang Jue is the actor that he is and that he can carry that but his ability would be pointless if the writing wasn't there.
Now rewind that and apply it to the FL. What if the FL was written in this same way? What if the conflicts her character set up carries were the actual focus of her character arc? That would have been mature writing of her character and equally compelling.
But it isn't there. Unfortunately, like many other male writers, this one can't write female characters. He is defaulting to idol level FL when he could have written her exactly as complex as the marquis. But he didn't. And that's a fail. On the other hand, you can't blame people for being fascinating how the main line of the story is being played out.
Am I unhappy with the FL writing? Yes, absolutely. But that sure isn't going to stop me from being eternally grateful that the writing not only didn't fail in writing the main villain but knocked it out of the park so much that this dynamic is fascinating the audiences everywhere. Because this is the one dynamic that cannot fail or the whole drama fails. So yes, it's fantastic people are so thrilled with it. Some even fooled by it. Ah, what excellent writing and acting and such a great duo. It's going to be so satisfying when Zanghai finally buries him.
Btw next time we complain about the writing for female characters? Join us instead of defending the mere crumbs that you are being given. The writer could do so much better than what he did with her. So, so much better. And the marquis is the perfect proof of that.
Of course he is evil. He is also a compelling villain of the best kind. Huang Jue is giving a masterclass of acting…
Yes, you absolutely are bitter, it is so funny!
This is not an idol drama. If you want the level of writing and level of complexity of an idol drama then this one is not for you.
The most important dynamic in this drama is the one between the villain and the ML.
The marquis is on the surface a charming, charismatic character that has drawn so many people to his side. That both the writer and the actor are accomplishing just this with the majority section of the audience is a good thing for this drama. It is good that they are even making some (though a tiny percent) of people forget just how awful he truly is because that is what the marquis does. He draws people in, he charms them, he fools them.
Then he kills them without blinking an eye.
That some are actually, as an audience, falling for this couldn't be better. It means they are so immersed in what is happening that they are experiencing as close as possible what all those people he fooled have experienced.
Not to mention that most people on this board are aware of his crimes. That the character is fascinating and compelling sure isn't stopping me from remembering he is a psychopath.
I am thrilled about the acting chemistry between the ML and the villain. That's the most important thing for this revenge drama. I am going to enjoy his death all the more because he is so fascinating. It is going to be amazing when it finally happens because of all that is being weaved on screen right now. Getting rid of a one dimensional villain is meh. Getting rid of a complex villain is the best.
Huang Jue needs to take that writer to a holiday because he gave him the role of a lifetime.
Oh and remember how we tried telling you why the writing for the FL is important and you just kept brushing us off? Well, this is why great writing is important.
Oh this page is so funny! Nobody is shipping marquis and the ML on this page. So what happened? Ahhhhh. Of course. People have been commenting on how compelling the character of the Marquis is and about the acting chemistry with the ML.
Ah poor romance fans, no wonder your reputation is awful. You are crying here on this page people are loving the acting chemistry between the main lead and the main villain of this drama and are fascinated by it. Tsk, how dare the main story draw attention away from your precious ship.
Here's a wake up call. This is not a romance. This is a revenge story. The apparent main villain is the Marquis. That he has an incredible acting chemistry with the main lead is paramount to the success of this drama.
It's actually shameful you are crying here about how successful the scenes are between these two and that people are enjoying them because your precious ship isn't drawing the same attention. God forbid that this drama is actually successful in what it is and that the most important dynamics, which is the ML-villain is fantastic because oh no, your pairing isn't the focus!
Let's be blunt. Yes, the marquis character is incredibly well written, in an attempt to make his character appear ambiguous and draw people in, even with his obvious heinous past. That is what good writing is. Yes, Huang Jue is giving a masterclass of acting and drawing people in. Exactly as it should be to make this drama the success that it is. Yes, the Marquis is the most important support character. Yes, his is the most important and significant story after Zanghai's.
Yes, this is exactly why people hate romance fans. Everything must be about you and your ship. Well tough luck. This is a revenge drama, not romance. If you can't handle that, stop undermining this drama and walk away.
Why ppl keep forgetting that Marquis is actually a bad person?Not bad actually a psychopath, how disgusting it…
Of course he is evil.
He is also a compelling villain of the best kind. Huang Jue is giving a masterclass of acting in how to make someone so heinous look so sympathetic on the surface, which is exactly what this type of villain needs to be. There is a reason he had so many aids and all are dead. He knows how to draw people in. It's why his just end will be so satisfactory.
But never mind I see why you are all suddenly so bitter, it's funny 😂😂😂
I need that bloody murderer marquis gone for weeksScreenwriters are trying to gaslight people to liking his character…
So you hate this drama and want it to fail?
Every good drama of this type needs a primary villain and it is so lucky that Huang Jue is giving the performance of a lifetime.
Screenwriters aren't gaslighting anyone. They are writing a compelling character that is elevating this drama into something special. He will get his just deserts which will only make it better in the end.
Please don't promote other people here that are unrelated to this drama, thanks.
You didn't hurt my feelings.
This is neither RJL page nor the page of his drama. People have been "casually" mentioning other people and other people's dramas on XZ pages for years. It's time to stop "casually" mentioning them, you have your own space for that.
Zanghai and the Marquis have incredible acting chemistry, the best on the screen in this drama. I was so pleased…
I am going to be very happy when the son finally gets a send off thanks to Zanghai's plotting. It is so delicious.
But he is such a good example of a child of rich people, that doesn't have his father's capacity but has a lot of arrogance, entitlement and ambition, whose parents shielded him his whole life from consequences of his actions. Zanghai even says he is good with numbers but being raised as he was, he never had a chance. I will not be sorry to see him go and really want to see how Zanghai's plan will play out because Cao will also play a part there, especially Zanghai's lying to the marquis about Cao pressuring him. That will probably play a role.
Zanghai and the Marquis have incredible acting chemistry, the best on the screen in this drama. I was so pleased to see him back, hopefully he doesn't disappear again but going by 22 we are about to hit the ground running for some big movement.
I think we have finally found our masked man but I still have no idea who the third fish is, except that I still think it's a woman.
Simple. People really don't like being reminded who is the person really sitting on the top of the food chain…
Today has been particularly nasty in China too with trash Hailin slandering both xz, zxl, the drama and so many others and then it all got to a bought hot search that it's not surprising this is happening here as well.
Zanghai is delivering data of a drama that is on the verge of exploding and they are running around in a panic.
i honestly dont get it why are people fighting over dramas??!
Simple. People really don't like being reminded who is the person really sitting on the top of the food chain in cent, that he has been there for 6 years now and isn't going anywhere. Shatters their dreams it does and Zanghai's success is being particularly brutal about it. Meeting reality is often a painfull endeavor.
It doesn't matter she doesn't know his motives or his past. The first time she met him, a complete stranger, she…
There is only one central and main character in this drama and that is Zanghai. You are all going to have to deal with that one.
And of course the ML can fall for a toxic red flag. Of course plenty of people can like it. Plenty of people also won't like it.
She would still be a toxic red flag and needs to be called a toxic red flag because no, prettying up red flags in discourse is a no go just because you enjoy toxic relationships and you like toxic characters.
People falling in love with the Marquis character is also not a problem. People saying he is not a psychopath because they are in love with his character would be.
There is a major anti attack happening against zhz today led by a well known pos that's been trying to kill Xiao Zhan's career for years. Antis are downrating here too so don't be surprised. Zanghai is too successful so they are losing it.
And that means the person is fascinated with the interplay between the villain and the ML. It doesn't mean they are actually shipping them.
You know how so many people have been saying the writing for the FL is not good? Remember how they got brushed off? Well this is why the writing is important. This writer is obviously very capable of writing complex, fascinating characters. Yes, it is crucial that Huang Jue is the actor that he is and that he can carry that but his ability would be pointless if the writing wasn't there.
Now rewind that and apply it to the FL. What if the FL was written in this same way? What if the conflicts her character set up carries were the actual focus of her character arc? That would have been mature writing of her character and equally compelling.
But it isn't there. Unfortunately, like many other male writers, this one can't write female characters. He is defaulting to idol level FL when he could have written her exactly as complex as the marquis. But he didn't. And that's a fail. On the other hand, you can't blame people for being fascinating how the main line of the story is being played out.
Am I unhappy with the FL writing? Yes, absolutely. But that sure isn't going to stop me from being eternally grateful that the writing not only didn't fail in writing the main villain but knocked it out of the park so much that this dynamic is fascinating the audiences everywhere. Because this is the one dynamic that cannot fail or the whole drama fails. So yes, it's fantastic people are so thrilled with it. Some even fooled by it. Ah, what excellent writing and acting and such a great duo. It's going to be so satisfying when Zanghai finally buries him.
Btw next time we complain about the writing for female characters? Join us instead of defending the mere crumbs that you are being given. The writer could do so much better than what he did with her. So, so much better. And the marquis is the perfect proof of that.
This is not an idol drama. If you want the level of writing and level of complexity of an idol drama then this one is not for you.
The most important dynamic in this drama is the one between the villain and the ML.
The marquis is on the surface a charming, charismatic character that has drawn so many people to his side. That both the writer and the actor are accomplishing just this with the majority section of the audience is a good thing for this drama. It is good that they are even making some (though a tiny percent) of people forget just how awful he truly is because that is what the marquis does. He draws people in, he charms them, he fools them.
Then he kills them without blinking an eye.
That some are actually, as an audience, falling for this couldn't be better. It means they are so immersed in what is happening that they are experiencing as close as possible what all those people he fooled have experienced.
Not to mention that most people on this board are aware of his crimes. That the character is fascinating and compelling sure isn't stopping me from remembering he is a psychopath.
I am thrilled about the acting chemistry between the ML and the villain. That's the most important thing for this revenge drama. I am going to enjoy his death all the more because he is so fascinating. It is going to be amazing when it finally happens because of all that is being weaved on screen right now. Getting rid of a one dimensional villain is meh. Getting rid of a complex villain is the best.
Huang Jue needs to take that writer to a holiday because he gave him the role of a lifetime.
Oh and remember how we tried telling you why the writing for the FL is important and you just kept brushing us off? Well, this is why great writing is important.
Ah poor romance fans, no wonder your reputation is awful. You are crying here on this page people are loving the acting chemistry between the main lead and the main villain of this drama and are fascinated by it. Tsk, how dare the main story draw attention away from your precious ship.
Here's a wake up call. This is not a romance. This is a revenge story. The apparent main villain is the Marquis. That he has an incredible acting chemistry with the main lead is paramount to the success of this drama.
It's actually shameful you are crying here about how successful the scenes are between these two and that people are enjoying them because your precious ship isn't drawing the same attention. God forbid that this drama is actually successful in what it is and that the most important dynamics, which is the ML-villain is fantastic because oh no, your pairing isn't the focus!
Let's be blunt. Yes, the marquis character is incredibly well written, in an attempt to make his character appear ambiguous and draw people in, even with his obvious heinous past. That is what good writing is. Yes, Huang Jue is giving a masterclass of acting and drawing people in. Exactly as it should be to make this drama the success that it is. Yes, the Marquis is the most important support character. Yes, his is the most important and significant story after Zanghai's.
Yes, this is exactly why people hate romance fans. Everything must be about you and your ship. Well tough luck. This is a revenge drama, not romance. If you can't handle that, stop undermining this drama and walk away.
He is also a compelling villain of the best kind. Huang Jue is giving a masterclass of acting in how to make someone so heinous look so sympathetic on the surface, which is exactly what this type of villain needs to be. There is a reason he had so many aids and all are dead. He knows how to draw people in. It's why his just end will be so satisfactory.
But never mind I see why you are all suddenly so bitter, it's funny 😂😂😂
Every good drama of this type needs a primary villain and it is so lucky that Huang Jue is giving the performance of a lifetime.
Screenwriters aren't gaslighting anyone. They are writing a compelling character that is elevating this drama into something special. He will get his just deserts which will only make it better in the end.
This is neither RJL page nor the page of his drama. People have been "casually" mentioning other people and other people's dramas on XZ pages for years. It's time to stop "casually" mentioning them, you have your own space for that.
But he is such a good example of a child of rich people, that doesn't have his father's capacity but has a lot of arrogance, entitlement and ambition, whose parents shielded him his whole life from consequences of his actions. Zanghai even says he is good with numbers but being raised as he was, he never had a chance. I will not be sorry to see him go and really want to see how Zanghai's plan will play out because Cao will also play a part there, especially Zanghai's lying to the marquis about Cao pressuring him. That will probably play a role.
I think we have finally found our masked man but I still have no idea who the third fish is, except that I still think it's a woman.
Zanghai is delivering data of a drama that is on the verge of exploding and they are running around in a panic.
But yes, primarily this is of course always the porcelain and the domesticated animals that have already lost quite a few feathers.
Spoiler for tomorrow 🥵
https://x.com/xzmelons/status/1927308165420401086?t=q1X8sGdRYW95eGpi802aFg&s=19
And of course the ML can fall for a toxic red flag. Of course plenty of people can like it. Plenty of people also won't like it.
She would still be a toxic red flag and needs to be called a toxic red flag because no, prettying up red flags in discourse is a no go just because you enjoy toxic relationships and you like toxic characters.
People falling in love with the Marquis character is also not a problem. People saying he is not a psychopath because they are in love with his character would be.
There is a major anti attack happening against zhz today led by a well known pos that's been trying to kill Xiao Zhan's career for years. Antis are downrating here too so don't be surprised. Zanghai is too successful so they are losing it.