I like his ways of solving problems :) Like in Lawsless Lawyer... if you cannot win in the ring, make sure you…
These are unrealistic: a celebrity, wealthy person can be tried in the courts, public opinion and lose support/wealth. (Johnny Depp vs Amber Heard) It takes time.
Justin Baldoni vs Ryan Reynolds/Blake Lively. * Unfolding.
The lawyer correctly understood, moving Chess pieces (allies) backing the CEO instead of a frontal assault, relying on Judiciary, Law enforcement alone. The CEO outsmarted them before with his ex-wife, nanny already.
The shady investors kidnapped him, broke him to make him docile in the Court. The investors were ripped off by the CEO and secured their money before handing him over to face Justice for the child abuse, fraud.
While I completely see where you're coming from, and agree to a certain extent, it still doesn't justify a hatred…
Entertainment industry don't make realistic dramas. Re read the post about their lens growing up in a dysfunctional family. Both of them had very jaded views of others in general.
He was drawn to her strange behaviour, this pattern is used most dramas.
The dating era was compressed, fabricated because of the gay scandal.
They didn't have time, we see he's consumed by her visiting her at all times when they start dating.
Almost immediately, another scandal breaks of her being a bully forcing her to publicly reject his proposal and break up in order to protect him.
There's almost no time in the romcom to a normal life.
He's a recluse, he doesn't go to parties or date.
His only friend is the President of the Talent agency.
I guess that’s why most people here prefer Kdramas over Western dramas.We want the FL to be sure about the ML,…
You could have predicted who would be the couple at each of those dramas if you watched enough. These aren't complicated.
Ninety nine per cent of time its main leads ends up together, secondary leads provide angst, back story for the leads.
Itaewon Class: 2nd FL took the money/scholarship/employment rewards from the protagonist. She ultimately came around and turned on him, the FL did the opposite and put the ML ahead of herself. She gave up safe easy life for a high risk job, turned down job offer from protagonist.
Understanding they didn't put too much backstory in their trauma, but the breadcrumbs were laid out if you watch enough of these to see why they were both blocked from developing an authentic relationship.
At a young age, watching his mother treat his father callously for losing his wealth, car accident and remarrying a wealthy male in less than two years. He was also betrayed by his first love in college to protect her rising fame. You don't see scenes/ discuss his family (mother, step father or stepbrother, sisters)
Fake relationship Couch confession about his broken family, ex-girlfriend came later.
She grew up in a house, that saw her routinely mother berated. An elderly senior bothered young girls from walking to school, her response was to train to end that. She discovered her one sided crush was a bully in school. In her pursuit to be unaffected by dating jerks, independent, she became a self professed vigilante of male jerks.
Both broke through each other's wall. A hate for each other's sex was accurate.
Setting aside Hollywood, Kdrama are not realistic. A 110lb professional MMA fighter/champion will not beat up six men. Rambo winning against 100 Russians (this isn't reality).
There is some disease going on within k drama writer mind....My lovely nemesis and this drama male lead were shown…
Simp may be too critical of those male leads. MLM is a grandson (very young) put in charge of a department and falls for the mean girl. These are not realistic to begin with but guys falling for the strange girl, girls falling for the bad guy isn't uncommon. The young man has been playing a dual life, hiding his feelings for music, hentai from his grandmother. FL discovers his secret life and protects him so they both become connected to each other.
This is my least favourite kind of kiss because it's so one sided. He's kissing her rather than them kissing each…
This is the most common kiss after a confession, the pause by the other person is natural because they are still processing what just occurred.
Both are interested in each other and have shown physical intimacy through glances, celebratory hugs, wrist, hand grabs, gifting, flashbacks of each other and banter. This is moving faster than most Kdramas.
FL already told the celebrity chef (fake ex-gf), they would sort it out, drawing a line.
I thought the same until the last minute of the episode, i just think that came from nowhere as they haven't developed…
If you're paying attention, the camera (director) writer, actors are showing you the glances, pauses, flashbacks they are having of each other. This isn't sudden or shocking if you're a seasoned watcher of these dramas.
Or you're clueless about that distance doesn't help relationships for most couples.Yeol being anxious because…
Re read your post, you make several assertions, you fail to make a coherent argument, you now seem to do a 180 on most of your flawed observations by conceding on it.
No one suggested any character is perfect, many of us understand flaws, mistakes are written to create tension for the couple to end together. The prediction is a guess, I don't have access to the finished script/drama. The guess is based upon experience of watching a hundred of these shows. (that's it Sherlock)
You cited Groupthink blaming Yeol, the same pattern in the comments can be applied to each character. That's not a cogent argument. (AGAIN)
You can guess what the writer/director/actor were doing including misdirection.
Many seasoned watchers have predicted they end up together in spite of all their mistakes and bumps along the way. You don't have to be on team Yeol or team Ji-won either to interpret the breadcrumbs.
"He is similar to how k dramas used to portray men in the 2000s and I figured we’d moved past that toxic masculinity portrayal but clearly not with Yeol."
Made me laugh out loud, thanks....
If you take Hollywood/Kdrama (any era) as realistic, you're not qualified to comment on these stories. These are and have NEVER been linked to reality in any ERA.
This is why they have disclaimers for people like you. This is a FICTIONAL story with everything being exaggerated.
This isn't a story based upon a best seller or a masterpiece. This is closer to furniture from IKEA, stop expecting much more.
Perhaps you should stick with better stories/scripts.
Or you're clueless about that distance doesn't help relationships for most couples.Yeol being anxious because…
Talking out of your backside is permitted as is being called out when it's not a complicated Kdrama. Re read your original post, it's filled with errors.
Some holes/gaps could be explained better but if you're a seasoned watcher of Hollywood/Kdramas you can interpolate the direction of the writer/director/actors.
Ji-won like other males were bumps in the road for the leads to get past and become a couple.
Jae Yeol's ex-girlfriend butting in, troubled relationship with his mother were challenges that Bunny/Yeol caused hesitation and finally overcame.
This isn't a big budget production that leaves some room for misunderstandings in the storytelling.
Safe bet is they have matured, realized their feelings for each other were genuine and resolve their past mistakes/misunderstandings.
Or you're clueless about that distance doesn't help relationships for most couples.Yeol being anxious because…
This isn't a buffet, you don't get to ignore the story by writer/director for your own agenda.
Apple of My Eye (every version) female lead chooses a stable person over the ML she's attracted to in Highschool.
The irony of you bring up the wealth of Yeol as an excuse for him to fly out to New York.
Did your suggestion not make it into the actual Drama that's completed?
Trope alert!
The story as written is using misunderstandings/failure to communicate (at least a dozen) for them have problems and break up when she leaves for New York.
This is what the writer/director/actors gave us, you don't get to have your own rendition of What If's, this should have happened instead to make your rationale stick.
It doesn't work, it was written for them to break up, time skip six years to have them in the same space again.
Or you're clueless about that distance doesn't help relationships for most couples.Yeol being anxious because…
Captain Clueless
The writers chose to use the broken tablet, having them develop their feelings by spending time together.. Perhaps you were too busy stomping your little feet yelling he's toxic!
The actors on several occasions when they share a space: mayhem, funny, cute things take place. Their drunken confessions, the chase, her grabbing his hoodie and falling on her, him smashing the door, her bandaging his hand. Them both glancing at each other with romantic interest (repeatedly). This is about them and their navigating their attractions to dating.
Bunny chose Yeol.
Her family finances player a large part in this story, her taking jobs at art show, Yeol showing up to work with her at the acting gig. He's actively finding ways to spend time with her. (His sincerity, he's pursuing her).
Her sculpture sabotaged by ex-bf, her loss of a scholarship added to her weakening financial capacity to continue to attend University without a break. This was not a coincidence, minor detail in this story.
It's S.O.P. to describe any study abroad program as an incredible opportunity or did you think it billed as something less?
Our Beloved Summer (2021) Professor describes the study abroad program with same language. Female lead (financial insecurity) dumps boyfriend, thinks he didn't take up the study abroad because of her. The ML states everyone he knows breaks up when one them does a long distance relationship.
You understand with deployment/long distance a break up/cheating is demonstratable? No sane adult thinks a long distance relationships increase the likelihood of them remaining united. His objection is valid, based on statistics.
Groupthink isn't a cogent argument, others think Yeol is bad! You sound boosted.
You failed to make a valid argument, use of incorrect application of labels.
The writers/director didn't have Bunny look at Ji-won as a romantic interest and his reluctance to distance himself created problems. She removed him from her inner circle because of his inability to read the room.
He was her Junior, handsome, in a one sided crush with his Senior who had a boyfriend. It appears you suffer from 2ML syndrome.
Or you're clueless about that distance doesn't help relationships for most couples.Yeol being anxious because…
No one said anyone is perfect, this is a fictional story * Hollywood/Kdramas are unrealistic.
So you're embracing the clueless crown with gusto!
Asking her to attend his class was his strategy for them to spend time together, do you need a diagram to explain it?
A one year study abroad isn't "an incredible, dream opportunity" the choice was because of her Dad lost their savings, her income wasn't sufficient to cover her admissions next year. (Fact)
Are you dim about Asian culture, dating?
Frequent communication/hierarchy (social status) share some similarities of Western culture. Differences exist, spend some time and do some basic research on the differences because you're not picking up on them watching the Kdramas.
Time skip, break ups, no communication isn't a good argument for an unrealistic story to begin with.
It's not complicated to understand what the writer/director/actors showed us to date.
Ji-won failed to confess, move on with his one-sided crush and created problems before and during the dating of both leads.
Kdrama: "She Would Never Know (2021)" had a similar story with the two marketing professionals, FL leaving behind her boyfriend for her dream job in Europe. The distance/workload was too much to sustain the relationship. She ended up quitting that excellent job before her five year contract because she missed him too much and rejoined Head Office where they both worked.
this started soooo good but now ML is just so freakin annoying. I understand having insecurities but come on,…
Perhaps your standards are based on unrealistic Kdramas...
Long distance relationship are problematic for most couples in these dramas.
Both Yeol and Bunny were romantically interested in each other in the beginning but Bunny had to process her breakup, creepy alumni artist, ex-gf of Yeol and take a step towards Yeol.
Both confessed EP1 drunken, sore hands/face. Yeol admits it wasn't a mistake and has been consistent. Bunny kept checking with her parents about their relationship and how it worked out. Bunny drew a line with the ex-gf of Yeol and told her they would sort it out.
Ji-won failed to muster up the courage to confess and distance himself after Bunny chose to date Yeol. Ji-won's proximity was a mistake on his part. Her female classmates offered to help her fix her sculpture but unrequited one sided crush Ji-won remained by her side.
It created problems, Bunny had to remove him from her circle of friends ultimately. Bunny's friends advised her to seek out Yeol to comfort him and address the rumour that Ji-won and her were dating.
wow and this show just gets worse and worse after episodes 9-10 my opinion of Yeol has just further deteriorated.…
Or you're clueless about that distance doesn't help relationships for most couples.
Yeol being anxious because of mistakes by Bunny, Ji-won did interfere, reluctance to move on caused problems.
EP1 Both Bunny and Yeol are interested in each other (drunk confessions by both, we see flashbacks of him admiring her when he returns from the military). Next day Yeol declares it wasn't a mistake. It takes Bunny several episodes to come to grips with her decision-making skills (alumni Artist hoping for a hook up/ex-girlfriend of Yeol and his sincerity).
Yeol doesn't chase her until she breaks up (both Yeol, Ji-won see the punch) but unlike Ji-won, Yeol confesses and declares it wasn't a mistake EP2.
Ji-won helps Yeol with creepy alumni hitting on Bunny. Ji-won than decides Yeol isn't sincere and blocks Bunny on her going to Yeol.
It's okay if you're not able to understand what took place and use labels incorrectly.
Yeol declared his interest and asked Ji-won before he began dating if he was interested in Bunny. Ji-won failed to declare his interest and remained too close to Bunny causing damage in the relationship.
Both Bunny and Yeol showed romantic interest in each other at the beginning, Ji-won was the unrequited one sided crush who had to be ASKED by Bunny to stop clinging.
Too much starch in your panties? Romance isn't defined as two people having intimacy ONLY.
Stop watching the Hallmark channel.
https://www.soapcentral.com/shows/beyond-bar-episode-7-review-love-all-its-colors-personal-scars-political-games-weight-love
Justin Baldoni vs Ryan Reynolds/Blake Lively. * Unfolding.
The lawyer correctly understood, moving Chess pieces (allies) backing the CEO instead of a frontal assault, relying on Judiciary, Law enforcement alone. The CEO outsmarted them before with his ex-wife, nanny already.
The shady investors kidnapped him, broke him to make him docile in the Court. The investors were ripped off by the CEO and secured their money before handing him over to face Justice for the child abuse, fraud.
Re read the post about their lens growing up in a dysfunctional family.
Both of them had very jaded views of others in general.
He was drawn to her strange behaviour, this pattern is used most dramas.
The dating era was compressed, fabricated because of the gay scandal.
They didn't have time, we see he's consumed by her visiting her at all times when they start dating.
Almost immediately, another scandal breaks of her being a bully forcing her to publicly reject his proposal and break up in order to protect him.
There's almost no time in the romcom to a normal life.
He's a recluse, he doesn't go to parties or date.
His only friend is the President of the Talent agency.
You can find gems with a smaller budget, fresh faces but the odds are stacked against them on achieving commercial success.
Ninety nine per cent of time its main leads ends up together, secondary leads provide angst, back story for the leads.
Itaewon Class: 2nd FL took the money/scholarship/employment rewards from the protagonist. She ultimately came around and turned on him, the FL did the opposite and put the ML ahead of herself. She gave up safe easy life for a high risk job, turned down job offer from protagonist.
At a young age, watching his mother treat his father callously for losing his wealth, car accident and remarrying a wealthy male in less than two years. He was also betrayed by his first love in college to protect her rising fame. You don't see scenes/ discuss his family (mother, step father or stepbrother, sisters)
Fake relationship Couch confession about his broken family, ex-girlfriend came later.
She grew up in a house, that saw her routinely mother berated. An elderly senior bothered young girls from walking to school, her response was to train to end that. She discovered her one sided crush was a bully in school. In her pursuit to be unaffected by dating jerks, independent, she became a self professed vigilante of male jerks.
Both broke through each other's wall. A hate for each other's sex was accurate.
Setting aside Hollywood, Kdrama are not realistic. A 110lb professional MMA fighter/champion will not beat up six men. Rambo winning against 100 Russians (this isn't reality).
The young man has been playing a dual life, hiding his feelings for music, hentai from his grandmother.
FL discovers his secret life and protects him so they both become connected to each other.
These cliches, tropes are built-in to every Hollywood, Kdrama.
Falling being caught, umbrella, wrist pull, one sided crush, awkward moments, misunderstandings?
We fall for the same series of cliches because it requires we suspend our cognitive skills to watch these fantasies.
Both are interested in each other and have shown physical intimacy through glances, celebratory hugs, wrist, hand grabs, gifting, flashbacks of each other and banter. This is moving faster than most Kdramas.
FL already told the celebrity chef (fake ex-gf), they would sort it out, drawing a line.
You seem to be very angry by the depiction of males in 2000, hence you're compulsion of the label toxic masculinity.
Was it the TV hit show Mad Men that broke you?
Is it low self-esteem, will power that had you to watch the tenth, rational people stop watching something they don't enjoy?
This wasn't a Jane Austin series, Korean entertainment is doing fine.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/999239/south-korea-korean-drama-popularity-worldwide/
These funny, irrational stories regarding romance play out for every demographic including over fifty.
These are meant to entertain us, as a bonus a nugget of wisdom may be learned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLiv2CEEjmY
No one suggested any character is perfect, many of us understand flaws, mistakes are written to create tension for the couple to end together. The prediction is a guess, I don't have access to the finished script/drama. The guess is based upon experience of watching a hundred of these shows. (that's it Sherlock)
You cited Groupthink blaming Yeol, the same pattern in the comments can be applied to each character. That's not a cogent argument. (AGAIN)
You can guess what the writer/director/actor were doing including misdirection.
Many seasoned watchers have predicted they end up together in spite of all their mistakes and bumps along the way. You don't have to be on team Yeol or team Ji-won either to interpret the breadcrumbs.
"He is similar to how k dramas used to portray men in the 2000s and I figured we’d moved past that toxic masculinity portrayal but clearly not with Yeol."
Made me laugh out loud, thanks....
If you take Hollywood/Kdrama (any era) as realistic, you're not qualified to comment on these stories. These are and have NEVER been linked to reality in any ERA.
This is why they have disclaimers for people like you. This is a FICTIONAL story with everything being exaggerated.
This isn't a story based upon a best seller or a masterpiece. This is closer to furniture from IKEA, stop expecting much more.
Perhaps you should stick with better stories/scripts.
https://www.janeausten.org/jane-austen-movies.php
Some holes/gaps could be explained better but if you're a seasoned watcher of Hollywood/Kdramas you can interpolate the direction of the writer/director/actors.
Ji-won like other males were bumps in the road for the leads to get past and become a couple.
Jae Yeol's ex-girlfriend butting in, troubled relationship with his mother were challenges that Bunny/Yeol caused hesitation and finally overcame.
This isn't a big budget production that leaves some room for misunderstandings in the storytelling.
Safe bet is they have matured, realized their feelings for each other were genuine and resolve their past mistakes/misunderstandings.
That's it.
Apple of My Eye (every version) female lead chooses a stable person over the ML she's attracted to in Highschool.
The irony of you bring up the wealth of Yeol as an excuse for him to fly out to New York.
Did your suggestion not make it into the actual Drama that's completed?
Trope alert!
The story as written is using misunderstandings/failure to communicate (at least a dozen) for them have problems and break up when she leaves for New York.
This is what the writer/director/actors gave us, you don't get to have your own rendition of What If's, this should have happened instead to make your rationale stick.
It doesn't work, it was written for them to break up, time skip six years to have them in the same space again.
We don't decide what's unfolding.
The writers chose to use the broken tablet, having them develop their feelings by spending time together.. Perhaps you were too busy stomping your little feet yelling he's toxic!
The actors on several occasions when they share a space: mayhem, funny, cute things take place. Their drunken confessions, the chase, her grabbing his hoodie and falling on her, him smashing the door, her bandaging his hand. Them both glancing at each other with romantic interest (repeatedly). This is about them and their navigating their attractions to dating.
Bunny chose Yeol.
Her family finances player a large part in this story, her taking jobs at art show, Yeol showing up to work with her at the acting gig. He's actively finding ways to spend time with her. (His sincerity, he's pursuing her).
Her sculpture sabotaged by ex-bf, her loss of a scholarship added to her weakening financial capacity to continue to attend University without a break. This was not a coincidence, minor detail in this story.
It's S.O.P. to describe any study abroad program as an incredible opportunity or did you think it billed as something less?
Our Beloved Summer (2021) Professor describes the study abroad program with same language. Female lead (financial insecurity) dumps boyfriend, thinks he didn't take up the study abroad because of her. The ML states everyone he knows breaks up when one them does a long distance relationship.
You understand with deployment/long distance a break up/cheating is demonstratable?
No sane adult thinks a long distance relationships increase the likelihood of them remaining united. His objection is valid, based on statistics.
Groupthink isn't a cogent argument, others think Yeol is bad! You sound boosted.
You failed to make a valid argument, use of incorrect application of labels.
The writers/director didn't have Bunny look at Ji-won as a romantic interest and his reluctance to distance himself created problems. She removed him from her inner circle because of his inability to read the room.
He was her Junior, handsome, in a one sided crush with his Senior who had a boyfriend. It appears you suffer from 2ML syndrome.
https://medium.com/@krys_stories/hard-realities-of-long-distance-relationships-ca8715ec8541
So you're embracing the clueless crown with gusto!
Asking her to attend his class was his strategy for them to spend time together, do you need a diagram to explain it?
A one year study abroad isn't "an incredible, dream opportunity" the choice was because of her Dad lost their savings, her income wasn't sufficient to cover her admissions next year. (Fact)
Are you dim about Asian culture, dating?
Frequent communication/hierarchy (social status) share some similarities of Western culture. Differences exist, spend some time and do some basic research on the differences because you're not picking up on them watching the Kdramas.
Time skip, break ups, no communication isn't a good argument for an unrealistic story to begin with.
It's not complicated to understand what the writer/director/actors showed us to date.
Ji-won failed to confess, move on with his one-sided crush and created problems before and during the dating of both leads.
Kdrama: "She Would Never Know (2021)" had a similar story with the two marketing professionals, FL leaving behind her boyfriend for her dream job in Europe. The distance/workload was too much to sustain the relationship. She ended up quitting that excellent job before her five year contract because she missed him too much and rejoined Head Office where they both worked.
https://kisskh.at/58511-sunbae-don-t-put-on-that-lipstick
Long distance relationship are problematic for most couples in these dramas.
Both Yeol and Bunny were romantically interested in each other in the beginning but Bunny had to process her breakup, creepy alumni artist, ex-gf of Yeol and take a step towards Yeol.
Both confessed EP1 drunken, sore hands/face. Yeol admits it wasn't a mistake and has been consistent. Bunny kept checking with her parents about their relationship and how it worked out. Bunny drew a line with the ex-gf of Yeol and told her they would sort it out.
Ji-won failed to muster up the courage to confess and distance himself after Bunny chose to date Yeol. Ji-won's proximity was a mistake on his part. Her female classmates offered to help her fix her sculpture but unrequited one sided crush Ji-won remained by her side.
It created problems, Bunny had to remove him from her circle of friends ultimately. Bunny's friends advised her to seek out Yeol to comfort him and address the rumour that Ji-won and her were dating.
Yeol being anxious because of mistakes by Bunny, Ji-won did interfere, reluctance to move on caused problems.
EP1 Both Bunny and Yeol are interested in each other (drunk confessions by both, we see flashbacks of him admiring her when he returns from the military). Next day Yeol declares it wasn't a mistake. It takes Bunny several episodes to come to grips with her decision-making skills (alumni Artist hoping for a hook up/ex-girlfriend of Yeol and his sincerity).
Yeol doesn't chase her until she breaks up (both Yeol, Ji-won see the punch) but unlike Ji-won, Yeol confesses and declares it wasn't a mistake EP2.
Ji-won helps Yeol with creepy alumni hitting on Bunny. Ji-won than decides Yeol isn't sincere and blocks Bunny on her going to Yeol.
It's okay if you're not able to understand what took place and use labels incorrectly.
Yeol declared his interest and asked Ji-won before he began dating if he was interested in Bunny. Ji-won failed to declare his interest and remained too close to Bunny causing damage in the relationship.
Both Bunny and Yeol showed romantic interest in each other at the beginning, Ji-won was the unrequited one sided crush who had to be ASKED by Bunny to stop clinging.