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Personally I don't think Meen told Pear as a friend. He was being spiteful and looking to stir up drama. There were better ways to have gone about revealing what was going on. Like I said, if he didn't want to hurt anyone he could have told Mike and Peem that he knew the truth and if Mike wasn't honest with Pear he was going to tell her. At the very least they deserved a heads up. Part of the reason Peem died is because Meen told Pear the way he did. I stand by saying that what he did wasn't right, just like what Mike did wasn't right. It's ok to think differently but I don't agree with what he did, there were better ways of handling the situation, and I think you're forgetting that he was also supposed to be friends with Mike/Peem and that didn't seem to matter much to him at all. All around he wasn't a good friend, he hurt everyone involved just because he wanted to be the first one to spill the secret, add to that he didn't feel sorry for what he did at all even though Peem died because of it.

I do think Mike got off too easily but I don't think that changes that they did an excellent job writing, acting and producing a complicated storyline. Life isn't fair, and there are many instances where people don't get the punishments they deserve for the things they've done...that's just reality for me, but that's my own take on it. My comment was more meant to unpack what I was left with at the end, and to explain my thoughts on why things ended the way the did, not to say that it was the perfect ending (which I didn't say). But I also don't think the purpose was to show a perfect ending. Most important to me is that I felt like Peem needed to forgive to be able to move on because resentment and anger are emotions that hurt the person that feels them more than the person they are directed towards. It's unfortunate that he happened to fall in love with Mike, someone who didn't appreciate him or love him the way he deserved. And I'm sorry, I guess I don't really understand your first point, Just because Mike and Peem may have eventually gotten caught doesn't make what Meen did any more correct? I feel like everyone's feelings on the series are going to be based on their own interpretation of the storyline which is great, everyone's entitled to have different opinions.

Yep. This episode got me. Full on tears. Wtf. I can't believe Akira did that. Yuki deserves so much better.

I wanted to comment to kind of help myself process a bit haha from what I understood Peem did initially go after Mike, that happens in Chapter 1 when we first see Peem come back. I think Peem realizes that Mike feels heavy remorse for what happened and that helps to heal the anger that brought him back after he died and allowed him to forgive Mike. Which for me is a good thing because peace for Peem won't come until he's able to let go of what happened. As for Meen, he felt no remorse even though his actions were what caused all of this to happen. At the end of the day what was going on was between Mike, Peem, and Pear. Mike coming to terms with his feelings for Peem and telling Pear what he was doing is, while sucky, a situation that needed to come to a conclusion from the people involved. I don't think Meen told Pear from a good place as a friend, you can see from the way he told her and the way he acts about it now at the end, which is likely why Peem is still angry with him. If he had really been interested in trying to help anyone, he would have told Mike he knew and let Mike know if he didn't tell Pear he was going to at the very least to give him a heads up or try to help him work through things as a friend (or at least that's what I would have done). I don't like what Mike did at all, but he was also in some sense a victim when Meen outed him, nobody deserves that, I just wish he had reacted differently. I think that's what I love the most about this story, the characters are very layered and nothing is really black and white. Who knows what someone can do if they're angry and afraid...Who knows what someone will do with a secret that could hurt others...Who knows how much someone will forgive for love...

I also wanted to say this was an excellent portrayal and the whole team who worked on this did an amazing job! Even though I was anxiously awaiting the conclusion, I'm sad it's over!

I get what you mean about judging panels being harsh, but...they aren't judges. They've likely never had to assess and judge anyone but themselves before. I'm sure they've compared themselves to others but being put on the spot to assess someone else's skill level when you're all peers is probably overwhelming. It's one thing to be competitive, it's another to know that you judging your peer and finding them lacking could mean you're taking away an opportunity you know what it's like to want badly. I just think for the first episode I'm not surprised they were unsure or hesitant, I'm sure they'll finesse their criteria on who to vote for very quickly. As far as rappers showing up 1. we haven't seen everyone's skill level and 2. it depends on who auditioned and how good they were. How do you know any rappers even auditioned, or that the rappers who did audition were any good? If I'm honest most true rappers aren't going to audition for an idol reality show.

No worries, I read about it from the press releases from k-news articles talking about the show, and I think Bang PD mentioned something in the BigHit Corporate Briefing (but I could be misremembering), I'm not sure how widely it spread about how involved they were going to be with the show hah

Guess we'll see.

I did see that they did but I haven't had the time to watch it yet. Yay for long holiday weekends so I can catch up on things hah

I've watched quite a few survival programs, though I stopped with the more recent ones as I find them to be difficult to watch a lot of the time. I'm having a really positive feeling about the way this is structured. When I heard that they were going to structure the show around how BigHit/BangPD choose and train their artists my curiosity was peaked and after the first episode I can really appreciate this idea of them giving the contestants more power. I really like that they'll have the chance to make their own future and to build their own team. Rather than it being a team forced together through popularity votes, I'm curious to see the criteria they will use to measure who gets to be on the team and how that will strengthen their dynamic as a team in the end. I love that BangPD emphasized their potential because I think they all have it in spades. I was honestly floored by how talented and what a strong stage presence the majority of the contestants have from the get-go, particularly when a lot of them haven't been training very long. We'll see how things turn out but so far I'm really into this.

Actually Bang PD had a hand in producing the show as well, basically how the show is structured. They structured it around how BigHit/BangPD chooses and trains their artists which is why it's been marketed as a different kind of survival show. If you notice in the first episode Bang PD talks about the reasoning behind why he chose particular contestants to be a part of the show. He was involved in choosing the 23 who would take part.

Also, I'm pretty sure BigHit own half or nearly half of Belift. Belift is housed in BigHit's new building too.

I mean you have to consider how overwhelming that had to be. Literally the first thing they're doing is voting on (for all they know) who deserves to stay, without any prior warning. You could tell they were all unsure about what to do and who to vote for, I think they'll get more discerning once they know each other better and what their strengths/talents are. Not only are they all really young, but I'm pretty sure they all understand how much this means to each and every one of them. You would have to be heartless to think it's easy to take an opportunity away from someone in the blink of an eye, even if you're essentially competing against them. I'm surprised you think they needed to find better quality trainees, I thought they were really exceptional. I was surprised they were that talented from the beginning with many of them having very little trainee experience.

You're forgetting that they literally have to debut. This isn't a competition where one person wins, there are twelve people involved. If you're taking out the strongest, most talented members you're only hurting the group you're going to belong to in the end. I think the fact that the majority of the people involved have to decide if someone is "in" or "out" means they have to all agree that person deserves the spot they're getting. I think it'll be less about strategy than people think.

Actually I think it's the opposite. Giving the contestants the control to build their own team is a really good idea. It will help to build their bond. I know Bang PD had a major hand in how the show was structured which is why they promoted it as being different from other survival shows, and his main concern, other than an artists' talent/potential is that they have a cohesive and strong connection as a team. Right now not many of them even know each other, so yes at some point friendships are going to factor in but that's a good thing. It's not a simple matter of one person voting for his friend, the majority of the team has to agree that that person deserves to be in the final group. I really like that they chose to give the contestants the power when usually they have none. Usually outside forces, either judges or viewers, get to decide if they're good enough. When it comes to viewer votes that leads to a lot of "favorite" voting that can be based off unfair criteria like visuals rather than talent or work-ethic. I think it's an interesting and switch up anyway from the normal way of producing these type of shows, but that's just me.

Please don't come on here and ask how you can watch it for free, or complain you have to pay. Consider that this is a small production company in a country where getting funding for films with this content is really difficult. Strongberry puts a lot of effort into bringing quality short films to fruition so please support by paying for the content. It's the price of a Starbucks for heaven's sake.

Then don't watch it, it's that simple. How do people expect more LGBTQ+ content when they don't even want to support the small production companies that produce them in countries where it's near impossible to get funding. smh.

Very cute short story. Simple and sweet.

They actually changed it from the one I was referring to lol the one they have now at least gives you some kind of premise, so it's a bit better but still not very informative haha

This show is the definition of bizarre, but they warn you every episode lol

I agree with this. It reminds me of King saying he was tortured because he felt like he had to pull his feelings for Ram back. I think Thara likes Frong but doesn't want to push his emotions on him when he feels like Frong just likes him as a friend or brother. It makes sense considering not that long ago Frong acted (or really didn't lol) like he didn't like him at all. When you don't know if someone likes you back it's easier to just play off that you're just friends and there's no feelings even if you do feel something for them.

I was surprised I did too. I even ended up liking Mek and Boss when originally I didn't like them all that much.