It is definitely bizarre that the writer chose to re-do Tin and Can's relationship from the beginning. The fact that it now aligns with when Pete and Ae aren't together makes no sense. I don't really understand why it was necessary to start from the beginning with Tin and Can? Especially when you still have the same two actors portraying the characters, it's just confusing. Their story left off at a good place last season, and now we have to re-hash everything from the beginning?
I'll be honest this is starting off on a disappointing note. I was pretty gutted when it was confirmed Saint wasn't coming back to play Pete, I thought that was incredibly shitty (everyone involved in that drama is so childish tbh they did Saint dirty) but I thought they might still be able to make it work because technically Pete does leave for a time in the novel but now I don't know. It just feels like some poorly conceived decisions for no good reason. I feel like they took one of the best and most looked forward to series and completely butchered it. Seems pretty counter-intuitive, if it's not broken don't fix it! I'm also getting more and more confused about New's directing. I was so excited for him as a director after the first series of LBC but his latest works have been continual disappointments.
It was ok. Nothing super special but cute if you need something to pass the time. I think what helps make this series watchable is the fact that it's short. Some of the characters were borderline grating, and some of the scenes that didn't really involve the main character's storyline were definitely skip-able. Overall pretty middle of the road but not terrible.
But you don't know anything about him yet, and we've had clues that there are some very troubling things he's…
People are just going to have different opinions. I appreciate Wil's straightforwardness, and his being open and honest about his feelings toward Joey. He hasn't tried to hide it at all. I would rather that then the usual push-pull type of relationship we usually get, and I'm getting from Jimmy. I'd also say that Joey isn't exactly giving off "back off" vibes, or has told Wil in any way that he's not interested or to stop. In fact, he often initiates touch, like hand-holding, and spends a lot of time with him. I'm not saying that means it's a green light, but he's also not giving a red light, so I'm not surprised Wil is just continuing to pursue him. Joey knows he likes him, the guy straight up declared himself and what he says is "don't give up on me?" That's not a negative lol.
I'm sure things will change, in fact, I expect them to which is what's boring to me. This essentially feels like a re-make of Boys Over Flowers (the gay version), or something similar and I honestly couldn't stand the plot to that series, so it's not all that surprising I'm not down for this. I seriously can't comprehend what they're going to do for 30 episodes so we'll see, I may drop it at some point if it just continues to be filler. We actually have seen Jimmy, like all the guys except for Joey, display trans-phobic behavior? He refused to acknowledge his aunt's designations and pronouns even after being told multiple times how to address her. Which is another issue I have with the series as a whole. For being supposedly LGBTQ+ friendly they're doing a pretty poor job with some of the writing and characters, particularly around trans individuals.
Jimmy cleaning his own room and not hogging the whole closet is the least he could do imo, not much effort in that is there? And if I'm honest I'd actually prefer Wil to be the villain. At least there's a twist in that, rather than watching him pine away for Joey. I'm not entirely sure what's creepy about him offering Joey the chance to transfer into his room if he wanted to. Joey was right that he had told him previously he didn't like sharing his space, so I thought it was sweet that he made it clear if Joey needed it he would share his space with him. I agree I did feel like he crossed a line when he declared them boyfriends, even though it happens a lot in BL dramas, I don't know about sexual harassment but I do think it was inappropriate. I also have zero to say about the love ballad that you'll agree with because I loved it, so I think this is a case of agree to disagree. Again they could very well be leading up to Wil being the baddy but I'm not opposed to that at all lmao if he's not going to get Joey, why not? hah. At the moment, with the information we've been given, I prefer him as Joey's love interest but if we're going down a more interesting side plot where he turns out to not be so sweet and accommodating I'm not against it.
I honestly don't think I can stand this for 30 episodes. What are they going to fill 30 episodes worth of content with? The majority of the episodes are filler as it is. Still primarily watching for Wil. I'm actually kind of hoping he's a villain lol that would spice up his character. I'd rather watch him turn into the villain than get his heartbroken if I'm honest. If he can't have Joey, why not? hah.
But you don't know anything about him yet, and we've had clues that there are some very troubling things he's…
Jimmy is a bully, point blank, but beyond that he's also manipulative, enjoys playing mind games, and is a brat. The only time he approaches Joey is when he needs something or when he's playing games. Also I don't care what his past is, there's no excuse to hurt and display abusive behavior toward others. Period. I'm sure the writers will find some way to make everyone feel sorry for him to "redeem" his character, and to help viewers excuse his behavior. I'm also sure they'll find ways of making Wil less like-able knowing fans are naturally going to gravitate and root for him. They need some kind of shock value that will get people talking and Wil being portrayed negatively will do that. Wil has been nothing but supportive, kind, and straightforward to Joey. The only time I felt he crossed the line was when he told everyone they were boyfriends to save himself from being hit on. But again this is another problematic trope, "nice guys finish last" and that the "troubled" bad boy who needs "fixing" is the person you should be falling in love with. That's not to say other people can't like Jimmy or feel differently, but his character is definitely not for me. The storyline is also fairly predictable so it's kind of a bummer.
So Jimmy is the literal antithesis of everything I root for in a male lead. Like...everything. He honestly gives me the creeps. I can't believe we're in this day and age and still getting bully/abusive behavior to love type of storylines. Normalizing that love can grow from a situation where one person is being mistreated is irresponsible. I want to have hope that Wil will get Joey in the end but I pretty much know it's a done deal the spoiled rich kid is going to get what he wants in the end by having this miraculous change of heart. The only thing that could make me favor Jimmy at the moment is a full-on personality transplant. This is like Boys Over Flowers for me all over again and I have a feeling I'm going to be left just as frustrated and disappointed as I was at the end of that series lol. I swear if they do Wil dirty and make him out to be some sort of creep for the sake of pushing the Jimmy-Joey storyline further I'm dropping the show. Him and Joey are the only reason I'm watching right now.
Overall I was pleasantly surprised by the whole series. It started off pretty slow but grew to be a sweet, feel-good type of show I looked forward to watching. I wouldn't necessarily say it was stellar but they did a really good job.
Hey, a quick question, which has been on my mind for a long time...I've noticed that in every Asian BL story,…
I think it's pretty common to say "I like you" in the U.S. when you're first establishing a relationship. If you said "I love you" or "I'm falling in love with you" before even a first date that would probably scare the other person off pretty quick unless it was a mutual love at first sight situation (which isn't a reality imo). It's like a pre-dating thing. You wouldn't normally say I love you until you're much further into a relationship and have been dating for awhile since those feelings mature with time.
I've heard this is actually based of a fanfiction that was a spinoff of 2Moons lol so that's why the names are…
It was all very confusing but it was implied (very unprofessionally) that the original cast weren't very good. It was highlighted for months that the new cast was going to have superior acting and it just was all a huge mess for all the actors involved who weren't at fault at all. It was just a very awkward, unnecessary situation that didn't need to be that way. It left fans feeling upset and the original cast in the dark and confused. It also didn't help when Godt announced he wasn't coming back, that was probably a catalyst to a lot of it. I get if Motive Village and Chiffon_Cake weren't satisfied and wanted to make changes but things just weren't handled very well. I'm happy that the 2Moons2 cast has seen a lot of success, even if I don't necessarily agree with all the casting choices (just my opinion). I actually like Joong and Nine, who play MingKit, a lot. It's just a bummer things ended the way they did. So now I'm glad we get a new "redemption" type series lol hopefully it's good.
The storyline is a little confusing, I'm still not quite sure how a lot of the characters interconnect or are related to each other. As of now, there seem to be three or four completely different storylines with no connecting arc. It doesn't help that they introduce characters out of nowhere with very little (if any) context and that the subs aren't very good. This is one of those that's a wait and see I think. I am probably the most curious about what's going to happen between Ongsah and North. I'm wondering if North is even dead since people seem to think the reason he disappeared was to go to school abroad. I can't remember their names but the best friends were cute, they were one of the ones highlighted in the teaser so I wonder if they'll end up being a couple? Oat and Strong didn't leave much of an impression on me, which is strange considering they're the main characters.
I'm sorry but being hateful and unaccepting of femgays is digusting and just as homophobic as people who hate all gays period. Femgays are just as much a part of the LGBTQ+ community and culture. I'm horrified that you posted this comment.
Suffice to say OG 2Moons fans have been waiting for this day lol I really hope it lives up to our expectations. Let's be real, we just want KimCop to get the air time and story development they deserved.
Lol. Kind of funny how Copter plays someone named Kit, and Bas plays someone named Wayu (close to Wayo).
I've heard this is actually based of a fanfiction that was a spinoff of 2Moons lol so that's why the names are so similar. They basically are the same characters. Which is kind of hilarious and shady (in the best way lol) considering the beef that happened with the original cast of 2Moons2 not being re-cast.
Not sure why this is getting so much in-depth criticism lol I can't imagine this is on par with some of the worst BL we've gotten this year, or in years past, at least for me there have been some that I literally couldn't force myself to sit through and it takes a lot for me to give up on a series haha. I was actually pleasantly surprised and really enjoyed the episode! I was expecting a lot out of the production and I wasn't disappointed. Was it a little cheesy? Yes, but like 95% of BL are cheesy let's be real. I also didn't think the dialogue was much different from what we typically get in BL so I'm not sure what exactly people were expecting coming into this. This actually reminds me quite heavily of a Hallmark movie production lmao it's lighthearted fluff for the most part (at least for now), if you're expecting something more hard-hitting it's probably not going to be this. Though I'm not entirely sure how people could be expecting something different considering the trailer was like a Disney movie on steroids. Very rom-com feels so far, with the typical tropes. The first episode was actually pretty fun, Sky's family is the best part right now, they're hilarious. Don't take it too seriously and you'll probably enjoy it.
I mean you have to consider how overwhelming that had to be. Literally the first thing they're doing is voting…
Yeah I get what you're saying though I don't really agree. A lot of idol groups have the position of rapper, not necessarily rappers. In most idol groups regular trainees who have never rapped before fill that position. I'm not saying they aren't good, or that they can't learn and grow to become great rappers but its a stretch to say that a lot of idol groups have what could be considered strong rappers. And that's ok, personally rather than just having a rapper to balance a song, I prefer rappers who are there to add substance. But I've grown up on rap and hip-hop my whole life so I think I'm pickier than most.
Just as a side-note as someone who was surprised by and fell in love TXT's unexpectedly diverse and experimental discography, you're limiting yourself if you're judging a group around the status of their rappers. While TXT don't have set positions, when it makes sense their songs do have raps that Yeonjun writes. Though personally I think their discography stands out for other reasons but that's just me :)
I'll be honest this is starting off on a disappointing note. I was pretty gutted when it was confirmed Saint wasn't coming back to play Pete, I thought that was incredibly shitty (everyone involved in that drama is so childish tbh they did Saint dirty) but I thought they might still be able to make it work because technically Pete does leave for a time in the novel but now I don't know. It just feels like some poorly conceived decisions for no good reason. I feel like they took one of the best and most looked forward to series and completely butchered it. Seems pretty counter-intuitive, if it's not broken don't fix it! I'm also getting more and more confused about New's directing. I was so excited for him as a director after the first series of LBC but his latest works have been continual disappointments.
I'm sure things will change, in fact, I expect them to which is what's boring to me. This essentially feels like a re-make of Boys Over Flowers (the gay version), or something similar and I honestly couldn't stand the plot to that series, so it's not all that surprising I'm not down for this. I seriously can't comprehend what they're going to do for 30 episodes so we'll see, I may drop it at some point if it just continues to be filler. We actually have seen Jimmy, like all the guys except for Joey, display trans-phobic behavior? He refused to acknowledge his aunt's designations and pronouns even after being told multiple times how to address her. Which is another issue I have with the series as a whole. For being supposedly LGBTQ+ friendly they're doing a pretty poor job with some of the writing and characters, particularly around trans individuals.
Jimmy cleaning his own room and not hogging the whole closet is the least he could do imo, not much effort in that is there? And if I'm honest I'd actually prefer Wil to be the villain. At least there's a twist in that, rather than watching him pine away for Joey. I'm not entirely sure what's creepy about him offering Joey the chance to transfer into his room if he wanted to. Joey was right that he had told him previously he didn't like sharing his space, so I thought it was sweet that he made it clear if Joey needed it he would share his space with him. I agree I did feel like he crossed a line when he declared them boyfriends, even though it happens a lot in BL dramas, I don't know about sexual harassment but I do think it was inappropriate. I also have zero to say about the love ballad that you'll agree with because I loved it, so I think this is a case of agree to disagree. Again they could very well be leading up to Wil being the baddy but I'm not opposed to that at all lmao if he's not going to get Joey, why not? hah. At the moment, with the information we've been given, I prefer him as Joey's love interest but if we're going down a more interesting side plot where he turns out to not be so sweet and accommodating I'm not against it.
Just as a side-note as someone who was surprised by and fell in love TXT's unexpectedly diverse and experimental discography, you're limiting yourself if you're judging a group around the status of their rappers. While TXT don't have set positions, when it makes sense their songs do have raps that Yeonjun writes. Though personally I think their discography stands out for other reasons but that's just me :)