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I'm ready for her to find out they aren't related! Don't get me wrong, sometimes a nice slow paced drama like this is good. And it makes a nice contrast right now for the much more intense Kill Me Love Me that I'm also watching. But. When he was comforting her this episode, I'm like....anyone who sees the way he looks at her or touches her is going to think "Whoa. That seems....awkward." He's doing a good job of overtly restraining his feelings, but it's obvious anyway.

Also, kudos to the actor. He's can really sell emotion with his eyes. The way he looked at her in front her mother's memorial scroll? Again, anyone walking in on them would feel like it was awkward! 😂

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Right?? I think it's very sweet that Allen Ren wants to stay faithful to his wife, if that's why they did that, but come on....just a kiss? One? Is that too much to ask? LOL.

I loved that LoN was a REAL enemies to lovers! When the ML met the FL, he was completely lost in his need to get justice for his people and his father and sister. He was willing to sacrifice anyone to achieve that goal, even people he cared about. And the SML kept dangling the FL out there as bait and then the FL kept interfering in his plans. It made perfect sense why he kept trying to kill her. (I will say that third time, I was physically uncomfortable! It was an intense scene.) It wasn't until the old couple sacrificed themselves right in front of him that the ML and the FL both gained a different perspective. Him, about the choices he was making for the people around him, and her about who he was to inspire such loyalty in people. I thought the writers and actors and everyone did an amazing job of the characters growing and changing slowly, and their relationship changing as they did. It was so well done. I just wish we'd gotten ONE real kiss, and that the ending had been happier. So much suffering and tension and angst and longing deserves more, lol.

RIGHT?? I am still bitter they didn't give us an epilogue! Seriously, 1 minute. I mean, longer would have been nice, but just 1 minute would have been enough.

LoN...one of the best true enemies to lovers I've ever seen, the way they did the progression from him genuinely trying to kill her to them being in love. Even once I found out it ended sad, I kept watching, and normally that's a DNF for me.

I have high hopes now that this drama will be one I can say I love without reservations if it keeps a happy ending. IF. After TTEOTM, I'm always skeptical, lol.

OMG, thank you so much! I was afraid this was going to be another Til the End of the Moon situation....40 episodes of angst and heartbreak and tension, only to end in tragedy.

WAIT. I'm still not over LoN. Does this one end sad, too???? Why do all of the good enemies to lovers end sad??? NO. I already love this one. Please tell me it has a happy ending.

Just started this drama, and I'm going to be an unpopular opinion, I guess, because I actually found FL's voice cute. IDK, I just came off the very serious drama Love of Nirvana, so I took an immediate liking to the different tone this FL gives this drama, and also liked that she's smart and perceptive. LOVED the meet cute for the leads, and hoping they find out VERY early on they are not related.

I will add, since it's been brought up and compared, Orchid's voice in LBFaD bothered the HECK out of me for the first several episodes, but Esther Yu made her less cutesy as the drama went on and Orchid grew and matured. I powered through those early eps and am SO glad I did! It remains one of my favorite dramas.

I was invested by the time I knew and had to watch it. I don't regret watching it. They do give you a little something at the end. And it's still the best enemies-to-lovers I've seen in a LONG time. But I have a lot of feelings about it, and I'm just not ready to go through it again.

Look, I'm still not over Love of Nirvana. This looks so good but everything points to a tragic ending. The synopsis pretty much says it. I don't think I can do another tragedy right now.

Yes! the whole time he was "marrying" her while she was asleep, I was thinking "WTH?? Wake her up! This scene would be so much better if you guys did that together."

And same, I don't need a bunch of skinship. But how about at least one heartfelt confession and true happy moment together?

RIGHT?? Exactly! I was SO invested in these characters. It was just so incredibly well done. Well written, well acted, all of it. But I'm not over my feelings about the ending or the lack of a single "happy for now" actual kiss! The one we got was not only not really a real kiss, but was also tinged with sadness like they both knew he might not survive what was coming.

YOU GUYS. I am into my feelings over this show. First of all, taken overall this is one of the BEST true enemies-to-lovers I have ever seen. They were actually real enemies. And there are reasons. The character arcs are so good for both the ML and SML. They do SUCH a good job of showing why they are they way they are in the beginning, how they change over time due to events and in part due to the FL and her actions. I love that the SML grows as well and realizes that the choices he's made are why things end up the way they do for him, and how he and the ML become actual allies and friends by the end. That was fantastic and so well done and well acted. I love how the ML is just all about justice for his people and revenge and darkness until the FL comes into his life and eventually starts reminding him what empathy is and how there are good things in the world.

But first...does Allen Ren have it in his contracts or something not to kiss in dramas anymore?? 40 EPISODES. 40!!! There are so many soulful looks, angst, tension, moments of chemistry....And it isn't until almost the VERY END that we get....kind of a kiss?? Like, they pull the camera way back so it looks more like a real kiss, but you can TELL he is kissing her CHEEK. And then we are led to believe they spend the night together that night by camera shots of things like their boots in the house together.

I'm sorry, but what?? I'm n ot asking for a lot here. The Double was another drama that gave very little in this regard, but we AT LEAST got ONE real kiss for the main couple in that drama.

And then THE ENDING. Look, I've read the comments. I know the novel ends the same way. But give me a break. There was NO REASON it had to end that way. And that deliberately ambiguous five seconds at the end did not make up for the half an hour of CRYING I did prior to that. But....I could have lived with it, I guess, if we'd at least gotten ONE scene that paid off all of the 40 episodes of building up their relationship.

I loved this show but I also hate this show. Someone else tell me they understand.

Right? I like a good enemies to lovers when it's done right.

For the first 9 episodes, he is pretty much trying to kill or use her. There are glimmers of moments where you can see he is reluctantly impressed by her, or where she calls him handsome, but really, she keeps messing up his plans and he is so focused on sacrificing anything and anyone to achieve his goal, he can't see beyond that. But I believe it's in episode 10 when an event happens that allows her to see things a little differently, and they have a conversation that ultimately shifts the dynamic between them. After that change, they spend more time together and their relationship slowly changes. She does not forgive him right away or forget what he's done, and he does not warm to her instantly. But they slowly start to trust one another and maybe even like each other a little better over the next few episodes. By episode 14, he is worried about her and doesn't want to see her hurt. By episode...I want to say 16, he's in the "touch her and die" phase of caring about her, lol.

This is a true enemies to lovers. It starts as true enemies, then moves to "well, I'll work with you but only because it's convenient/I have to", to "hmm, we work well together, but don't read anything into it", to "I will kill anyone who hurts you"...and we haven't gotten there quite yet, but I believe we're getting to the "I would die for you/I love you" stage soon.

I agree completely! I feel like they've done a very good job of making this a REAL enemies-to-lovers slow burn romance. I love that she does not just forgive him everything after their dynamic shifts in ep 10, and their interactions are still tense and unsure of one another for a few more episodes, gradually changing as they spend more time together and get to actually know each other. He is remembering his humanity and empathy for others beyond his own people and mission through her, and she is understanding the world and people around her more and more deeply because he doesn't try to restrict her or hold her back (like the selfish and manipulative SML).

This show is a 10/10 for me. I also have not read the novel so the drama stands on its own for me, but the actors are really doing an excellent job showing a lot of nuance with these characters.